Found Deceased WI - Kathleen Ryan, adult, teacher, car found burned with body inside, St. Francis, 2 Feb 2019

[nancygraceless]

The "someone known" is writ large because we hear so little of one party close to her.

 

[human]

if it was a known, how did it go down?

She is stalked.

If she is killed elsewhere and then put into the car to burn, how did the killer transport her and get back?

Jog?

 

[king clopperdoodle]

if it was a known, how did it go down?

She is stalked.

If she is killed elsewhere and then put into the car to burn, how did the killer transport her and get back?

Jog?

So you're saying here....accident? suicide?

 

[LarkBunting]

if it was a known, how did it go down?

She is stalked.

If she is killed elsewhere and then put into the car to burn, how did the killer transport her and get back?

Jog?

Why would they have to transport her? What about something happening not super long after she left her home, then the perp hiding her in the trunk or backseat (of her own car) under clothes or something, or keeping the car in a garage (whose garage, I have no idea...even a parking garage, maybe) for a few hours, then driving to the fire site under cover of darkness?
I don’t think anyone would have had to transport her body back & forth from her car. Not sure that’s what you meant?

 

[Eleanor Rigby]

Seems they're stymied.

What would you pick right now as an answer?

• murdered by someone unknown to her
• murdered by someone known
• death by vehicle malfunction
• death by misadventure
• suicide

• murdered by someone known

 

[diggndeeperstill]

There is absolutely no mention of her spouse on her Facebook page. None. Although there are things you could allude from her posts.

Both have history’s that can be found via court system.

Wonder if either were dating?

Wonder if either had dating profiles?

Wonder if a stop at a friends, shop, bar, or restaurant could have happened first?

I think a family that is well known, religious, and works in a Christian school will frequently hide their problems. You know, “appearances are everything”. So because of that, former court searchable history, and timing (not only delay in arriving, but close to her birthday) , my suspicions are high for it to be personal.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Wondering if there was a life insurance policy ......

I’ve wondered that too, and who the beneficiary would be. Also, wonder if her dad may have left her money when he passed?

 

[human]

So you're saying here....accident? suicide?

No. I am wondering how it could be done if it was murder

 

[human]

Why would they have to transport her? What about something happening not super long after she left her home, then the perp hiding her in the trunk or backseat (of her own car) under clothes or something, or keeping the car in a garage (whose garage, I have no idea...even a parking garage, maybe) for a few hours, then driving to the fire site under cover of darkness?
I don’t think anyone would have had to transport her body back & forth from her car. Not sure that’s what you meant?

How did the person get from her car to where the person needed to go? He ( let us say it was a “he” for ease of typing) has to get to his car or his home or transportation of some sort . How does that work?

 

[Eleanor Rigby]

1. or 2. I was strongly 100% in the unknown camp initially, but now, I just don’t know.
I don’t think the police are stymied. I think they’re busy collecting evidence to nail someone.

Above BBM
I agree. I think not only is there a lot not known by the public and WS's, I think there was probably a fair amount not known by many of her colleagues and her more casual friends. Obituary and MSM reports indicate that she was religious and she taught at a Catholic School, so I can imagine it would be more comfortable to be discreet about any personal problems. Having taught in public schools, it was my experience that teachers are quite often under the microscopes of certain groups of parents. It was also my observation that many teachers in Kathleen's age group did not freely discuss personal issues in the teacher's lounge, as did many of the young teachers. Not judging at all, just sharing my observation and experience. MOO.

 

[deathvalley69]

Seems they're stymied.

What would you pick right now as an answer?

• murdered by someone unknown to her
• murdered by someone known
• death by vehicle malfunction
• death by misadventure
• suicide

Am going the cancer recurrence and/or marriage over suicide route, with cops doing due diligence to make very sure before dumping that controversial solution on family, colleagues, public. (Or of course due diligence if suspected killed to have been by loved one, same reasons.)

 

[king clopperdoodle]

No. I am wondering how it could be done if it was murder

Carjacked and killed then perp walks away?

 

[MyBelle]

Carjacked and killed then perp walks away?

I think she was carjacked, killed and the perp used her car for a couple of hours prior to torching it and her.

JMO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I think she was carjacked, killed and the perp used her car for a couple of hours prior to torching it and her.

JMO

Would be interesting to see if any crimes or robberies were committed near that area during the timeframe before her car was found as that is often a reason for a carjacking.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

The sign at the school referred to her as Ms. Ryan. Why do you think it said Ms. not Mrs.? Is that normal nowadays? Or is it more?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Oh my goodness, sorry for so many posts in a row.

I just saw the first pic of the driveway where she was found.
Burned beyond recognition: Illinois coroner works to ID remains found in Milwaukee teacher’s car

 

[Razz]

I know reports say it was KR in the car, but I'd like to know where in the car:
Driver's seat, passenger seat, backseat,
or the trunk. Until then, I'm whipping in the wind.

 

[MeJane00]

if it was a known, how did it go down?

She is stalked.

If she is killed elsewhere and then put into the car to burn, how did the killer transport her and get back?

Jog?

I think the key is what someone suggested earli

I’ve wondered that too, and who the beneficiary would be. Also, wonder if her dad may have left her money when he passed?

Her mom is still alive, so I think usually money goes to surviving spouse first.

 

[kay74]

I can't see this being personal at all. It's way too violent.

 

[nancygraceless]

I can't see this being personal at all. It's way too violent.

Exactly why it is probably personal. Someone took out much hatred here.