Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #87

[LinasK]

I am sure most of us have seen this already, but I am sharing it again because I feel like the debating of Brain Laundrie’s obvious guilt (homicide) is distracting from discussion regarding the lawsuits. I also would be remiss to not mention there is no law anywhere in the US that I am aware of that one is allowed to kill another person if they get injured in the wilderness; that is still murder.

FBI Denver Provides Final Investigative Update on Gabrielle Petito Case: “The investigation did not identify any other individuals other than Brian Laundrie directly involved in the tragic death of Gabby Petito….”​

I copy and pasted because I am on mobile, but if an admin or mod could adjust the font on this post so it’s not huge I would appreciate it. Size of font is not intentional.

Thank you.

 

[Laughing]

There was no domestic violence. Not a mark on either one of them in the youtube videos. They were engaged and look very happy together.
JMO

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Her videos were not a documentary but a highlight reel. Her work filming & editing was intended to attract $ub$cribers & monetize the channel afaik.

There are likely people who would indeed subscribe to watch a man browbeat, insult, gaslight, and threaten a pretty young lady.

imho we have threads about the efforts of some of those people....

jmho ymmmv lrr

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

There is no evidence whatsoever that Gabby was ever previously strangled/suffocated by Brian, nor did she mention it to Moab LE. She blamed Brian's backpack for the injury to her face and said he placed his hand on her face so she wouldn't keep hitting him. No injuries to her face or throat in the lengthy Youtube video I posted upthread.

JMO

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/07/us/gabby-petito-face-injury-photo-lawsuit-moab-utah/index.html

 

[MyBelle]

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Her videos were not a documentary but a highlight reel. Her work filming & editing was intended to attract $ub$cribers & monetize the channel afaik.

There are likely people who would indeed subscribe to watch a man browbeat, insult, gaslight, and threaten a pretty young lady.

imho we have threads about the efforts of some of those people....

jmho ymmmv lrr

The video was taken over a longer period of time. No sign of injuries on either one of them. It also wasn't their first cross-country trip. It is obvious they are having fun and love one another.
JMO
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[MyBelle]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/07/us/gabby-petito-face-injury-photo-lawsuit-moab-utah/index.html

That's not proof of anything.

JMO

 

[OwlHeart]

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Nor are those the actions of a woman who is afraid of the man. Wouldn't a woman being badly abused be afraid of the consequences of hitting him and calling him names?

In my country, Australia, there are disproportionate rates of First Peoples women (Indigenous/Aboriginal to use outdated terminology) who are currently incarcerated after being violently abused for upwards of 15 years and one day suddenly reaching their limit (everyone has one) and snapping and taking a kitchen knife and stabbing their cruel abuser to death, hence getting convicted of murder when it was a desperate act borne out of self defence and unfortunately having systemic racism and other failures against them as opposed to support.

So, abused women have each their own personality and subsequent threshold, once this is crossed uncharacteristic yet perfectly understandable actions result.

There is also something known as “trauma bonding” most famously exemplified in the Stockholm Syndrome where hostages sympathised and protected their terrorists but defined more broadly - unfortunately, abused women (and men, yes) become in essence, addicted to the chemical highs that an abuse cycle roller coaster ride inevitably brings them. This extends into codependency, yet do not assume that means both parties are equal, there is still a victim, most definitely.

 

[Laughing]

The video was taken over a longer period of time. No sign of injuries on either one of them. It also wasn't their first cross-country trip. It is obvious they are having fun and love one another.
JMO

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I have some experience with stage make-up, and followed parts of the Depp/Heard trial. Certainly enough to remember Amber Heard's "bruise kit."


image from NBCnews.com

No sign of injuries? Camera angles, make-up, time -- all factors.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[RANCH]

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I have some experience with stage make-up, and followed parts of the Depp/Heard trial. Certainly enough to remember Amber Heard's "bruise kit."

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image from NBCnews.com

No sign of injuries? Camera angles, make-up, time -- all factors.

jmho ymmv lrr

So it's possible to try and hide bruises or create them with make-up.

 

[MyBelle]

I'm confused what you are trying to say. Is it that there was no DV? Or that there was DV and Gabby was the one who was the perpetrator?

I'm saying I don't believe the couple had a history of domestic violence. While Gabby was mad at Brian and hitting him, he wanted both of them to take a break from each other to cool off. They loved each other, traveling in national parks and it wasn't their first cross-country trip.

Domestic violence involves total control over the victim, with the aggressor refusing to walk away to take a break. Victims seek protection either at DV shelters or with family/friends. Gabby admitted to police that she was the instigator. Brian begged police not to arrest her because he loved Gabby, and he knew she loved him. I have no doubt he went to that nature area to commit suicide so they could be together in the afterlife. May they both RIP.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

So it's possible to try and hide bruises or create them with make-up.

It's also possible to alter photographs.

Gabby does not appear to be wearing a lot of make-up in her youtube videos.

JMO

 

[LinasK]

That's not proof of anything.

JMO

Neither is there proof of Gabby's being the aggressor in Moab, despite her admission to the police. It's common for DV victims to take the blame so that their abuser won't get in trouble.

 

[LinasK]

In this case the perp was BL not his parents. If I follow your analogy the Petito family would have been satisfied with the $3 million dollar judgement they won against BL's estate.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/17/us/gabby-petito-wrongful-death-lawsuit-ruling/index.html

However, since Brian is dead, they can't sue him for answers/information. They can sue his parents for that since his parents withheld information from them, and that's exactly what they are doing.

 

[RANCH]

However, since Brian is dead, they can't sue him for answers/information. They can sue his parents for that since his parents withheld information from them, and that's exactly what they are doing.

I was just addressing your statement about seeking justice and accountability when a perp isn't found guilty in a criminal trial.

In my opinion we don't know that the Laundries withheld any information about Gabby's death from the Petito family.

JMO

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

That's not proof of anything.

JMO

Forgive me for not being able to follow your train of thought. I don't think we have an effective communication.

 

[RANCH]

I'm trying to think of unanswered questions the civil lawsuit is trying to uncover and why.

All evidence points to BL murdering Gabby. He also confessed to killing her. Her autopsy revealed that she died of “blunt-force injuries to the head and neck, with manual strangulation.”

We know about the DV incidents before the murder. We have details about how the Maob PD handled the DV incident they responded to.

And much more.

So is this civil lawsuit in search of information that may or may not exist? So far I don't see what they are looking for.

JMO.

 

[Cool Cats]

I was just addressing your statement about seeking justice and accountability when a perp isn't found guilty in a criminal trial.

In my opinion we don't know that the Laundries withheld any information about Gabby's death from the Petito family.

JMO

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The Petito's have said that the Laundrie family didn't tell them anything about Gabby's disappearance and death and they cut them off both through SM and through their phone. They are now amassing sworn depositions and evidence to prove their case. Even the Laundrie's former attorney supports the Petito's case in his deposition.

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[RANCH]

Forgive me for not being able to follow your train of thought. I don't think we have an effective communication.

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I did learn something from the link you provided.

Family attorney Brian Stewart said the photo, recovered from cloud storage, was taken in the back of Petito’s van on August 12, the same day the couple was pulled over by Moab police as they were traveling through Utah.

So apparently the lawyer got the photo from cloud storage and not Gabby's phone. Not sure if the date has been independently verified.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/07/us/gabby-petito-face-injury-photo-lawsuit-moab-utah/index.html

JMO.

 

[Sillybilly]

Thread is closed for the night.

If the back and forth snark and bickering starts up again tomorrow, we'll close the thread and go to the Media *NO DISCUSSION* thread.

 

[Sillybilly]

Thread is open again.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I'm saying I don't believe the couple had a history of domestic violence. While Gabby was mad at Brian and hitting him, he wanted both of them to take a break from each other to cool off. They loved each other, traveling in national parks and it wasn't their first cross-country trip.

Domestic violence involves total control over the victim, with the aggressor refusing to walk away to take a break. Victims seek protection either at DV shelters or with family/friends. Gabby admitted to police that she was the instigator. Brian begged police not to arrest her because he loved Gabby, and he knew she loved him. I have no doubt he went to that nature area to commit suicide so they could be together in the afterlife. May they both RIP.

JMO

Thank you very much for the explanation. It helps me understand where you are coming from and why we pretty much are 180 degrees apart on this. Thanks.