Young Men Found Drowned in UK

[Indigator]

"MYSTERY last night surrounded the death of a teenager discovered drowned after a night out in North Wales.
The body of Llandrillo College student Craig Royles, 19, was found on a Rhyl beach near the Skytower on Saturday morning."
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-79117094.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/1792153.stm



"A 19-year-old man, whose body was recovered from the River Taff in Cardiff, was a promising young rugby player.
Police are appealing for witnesses after Sean Conneely, from Port Talbot, ended up in the river early on Thursday."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_east/3746800.stm


"Detectives have confirmed that a body found in the River Severn is that of missing south Wales student Nicholas Bloy....
Since then police have received two anonymous letters stating that "some harm" had come to Mr Bloy."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/445262.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/517365.stm


"THE death of a waiter whose body was pulled from the River Thames is being treated as suspicious by police.The body of 23-year-old Bishal Gurung was found near Blackfriars Bridge in London shortly after midnight on Saturday April 26, nine days after he was reported missing.Mr Gurung was last seen celebrating the Nepalese New Year in the early hours of April 13 at the Yacht Club — a permanently moored boat at Victoria Embankment."
http://www.cobhamnewsonline.co.uk/news/2027/2027426/waiter_found_drowned_in_thames

 

[SeriouslySearching]

A pathologist's report said the cause of death was presumed to be drowning. No evidence of illicit drugs was found in the body.

Recording an open verdict the coroner said it was the only conclusion he could come to because there was no evidence to show how Mr Bloy came to enter the river.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/517365.stm

Now that is the way it SHOULD be done!! Good job, UK Coroner! (Wonder if he is available to teach classes to LE in the USA?)

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Last Monday (April 28) a special postmortem examination carried out at St Pancras Mortuary gave his cause of death as immersion in water.

~snip~

He visited the Yacht Club with two of his colleagues but shortly after arriving he is believed to have separated himself from his friends and wandered off.

http://www.cobhamnewsonline.co.uk/news/2027/2027426/waiter_found_drowned_in_thames

I am so glad you posted these, Indigator! Very interesting, isn't it?

 

[DeltaDawn]

A pathologist's report said the cause of death was presumed to be drowning. No evidence of illicit drugs was found in the body.

Recording an open verdict the coroner said it was the only conclusion he could come to because there was no evidence to show how Mr Bloy came to enter the river.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/517365.stm

Now that is the way it SHOULD be done!! Good job, UK Coroner! (Wonder if he is available to teach classes to LE in the USA?)

Do cororners in every state here have that option? I wish they did and were all atleast MD's. In Kathleen Salvos' death they convened a corroner's jury? How do laymen resolve issues that a cororner can't? That didn't make sense then nor now. Nor does it make sense for a cororner to be anything less then a MD. It would be interesting to know if in most countrys the cororner had to have a medical background, atleast MD, and if they are elected or appointed due to their expertise.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

All very good questions that I have no answers to, DD! We need to revamp our Coroner system across the country and make it MD only. It makes NO sense when you put either laymen or someone off the street in a position to make a determination such as if a crime was committed or not. This is a critical piece.

 

[SuziQ]

Thanks for posting these Indigator. They are VERY interesting to read.

SS and DD, I really need to find a series of special reports from a newspaper in (Iowa?) where the ME system was so bad many criminal cases will never be prosecuted. I will try to hunt it down today.

 

[Floh]

O/T As a youngster, i used to take day trips to Rhyl with family and friends.

 

[SuziQ]

Found the articles. It was Nebraska, not Iowa.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2798&u_sid=10263668

Nebraska has no state oversight and few standards to ensure quality death investigations by coroners or law enforcement. As part of its two-week series, The World-Herald is detailing 15 botched cases that illustrate weaknesses in the system. The impact:
• Murder cases remain unsolved.
• Finances drive decisions - coroners skip autopsies to save money.
• Bodies have been exhumed to resolve questions from shoddy investigations.
• Some coroners guess at the cause of death.

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Flash presentation of Case studies.

http://content.omaha.com/media/maps/flash/casestudiesday3.swf

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks, Suzi! Makes me feel so much better about our system. :bang: LOL

 

[SuziQ]

Thanks, Suzi! Makes me feel so much better about our system. :bang: LOL

It's scary to think about all the murder cases all over the US that have slipped on by.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree. It is a sobering thought. We need a serious overhaul of the system.