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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    I spoke to a local attorney here in town today. He told me that a judge does not have a time contraint on ruling on a motion. It was his understand that the motion to move AB to a mental facility was filed incorrectly and her PD has not re-filed the proper paperwork. He also told me the PD...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    I have a question here. Isn't psychology based off of therory? Isn't therory based off of opinion? Therefore if it is based on opinon that can't make it factual right? I guess what I am looking for is that no one psychologist diagnosis would be 100% correct? There have been people saying...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    Thank you for your comments. I respect your point of view and I agree that we may end up ageeing to disagree. I am ok with that. Here is my take. AB has been charged with commiting a henious crime. The law of our country stipulates that such acts deserve punishment. I have no problems for...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    Thank you for the very valuable info. I still feel that both of those need to do some hard time to understand. If that is possible. I understand the need to analyze them but imo they need some institutional time also.
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    If AB was diagnosed with depression, isn't depression sort of a general diagnossis? We need to diagnois her with somethig lets go with depresson.
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    Judge Joyce usualy takes these under advisement from my experience with here. I am sure she would have had to see some form of evidence in order to make a fair decision.
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    I will look and see if I can find that info.
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    Not sure I am understanding your question.
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    Well that is what I would think. Now how long they take to post it is another story, imoo
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    I agree there. Just didn't make sense unless she ruled and no one has said anything about it other than the parties involved, just a guess on my part
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    I wasn't positive what that motioned was. Thank you for that. I have not seen a ruling on that. Has there been one or has the judge decided yet?
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    You are very welcome. It was my pleasure and it was nice meeting you. MOO
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    We had different levels of sucide watch. Full suicide watch we had to physically see them every 10 min and log it in a log. Plus the FSW cells had a camera in them. FSW that had nothing in the cells with them except for a tear proof gown. No mattress, sheets, blankets or pillows. On...
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    I am just guessing with this case her immediate family would be all that was allowed. That does not count her attorney which BTW does not count as a visit. IMO They are handling her with kids gloves to make sure nothing happens to her and making sure her rights are not violated.
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    MO - Elizabeth Olten, 9, St Martin's, 21 Oct 2009 #14

    They have a visiting list and only those approved can visit I believe once a week. As far as grooming items I am pretty sure that is provided her. The jail usually has books and magizines already. She would not be allowed to recieve anything from the outside w/o pror authorization for safety...
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