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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    [/B] BBM. The fake ID has always bothered me. I would think that if she had been able to hold on to one card, it would have been her key card. Also, just speaking for myself, but if I go out without a purse and have several cards (ie ID, credit card or whatever) I tuck them somewhere...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    Ok, all quotes here are from MB's lawyer, BBM "Further, Beth took Spierer to Rosenbaum's residence and left her with Rosenbaum. It was Rosenbaum who allowed Spierer to leave his residence unescorted." http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/25/missing-ind-student-lawsuit/2587749/...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    I'm not talking about alternative scenarios, I'm talking about what was stated as fact (MB did not walk Lauren to JR's, MB did walk her to JR's. MB was home when Lauren and CR arrived at the apartment, MB was out when Lauren and CR arrived at the apartment and returned because he believed his...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    One quote in that post I referenced states that Lauren left the apartment alone, without MB and that he watched her leave. The quote that I posted says that MB brought Lauren over to JR's himself and then left. In the civil suit, there is yet another version. edited for clarity: The last two...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    I can't believe its been three years. I hope they get some answers soon, I can't imagine the hell they've been in for so long.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    I'm not at home and can't access the links I have saved, but Sammi has quotes higher up on this page (#303) from one of Abby's posts, one where the lawyer says that Lauren walked out on her own, but then that changed to " Further, Beth took Spierer to Rosenbaum's residence and left her with...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    Obviously thats your opinion. As a law student, and someone who has worked in criminal defense firms, personally everything you've said on this topic seems completely incorrect to me. I don't understand what you think the attorney/client relationship is like. Do you think MB's lawyer was just...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    RE: MB. Originally I believed his story, that he was at home writing a paper, got roped into dealing with Lauren, and brought her over to JR's, either because CR was unable or unwilling to deal with her. As time has gone on, MB has changed his story (through his lawyer) drastically. First he...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but from your pervious posts it seems like you have some sort of legal background, or are at least well versed in the legalities of a case like this. As I'm sure you know, lawyers don't just run to the press with their personal ideas or scenarios. A lawyer...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    BBM, that would be my guess. And from what I know about frats, if JW and JR were freshman when it was shut down, they were probably the ones being hazed, a lot of frats go way over the top with hazing/initiations.... One thing I've thought about (that could be totally wrong) some frats have a...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    Snipped by me. I've thought about this before. Its awful to consider, as heinous and unforgivable the idea of Lauren ODing and someone not calling 911 is, the idea of this happening (imo) is even more devastating. I still think its something to be considered, but I personally find it hard to...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    Thank you for posting this. I'm sure I've mentioned this before but I went to a really small (mainly female) school, and there were still rapes that went unpunished (in every way. IE the victim having to leave the school and the perpetrators being totally let off, even if their excuse was "she...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #33

    This is a good point. IMO, it would make sense if LE/the Spierers think JR (and possibly MB/CR) were involved but not the main perpetrator, the 5N boys getting all the heat while LE doesn't mention that they think XYZ might have had a bigger role than the boys could lead at least one of the 5N...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #32

    I didn't say it was leased to a client. I don't have time to go back into all the past posts, but my impression was that the business you were referring to was a business JW's parent's company represented, it was never said (before doubtingthomas' post) that JW had owned/been directly involved...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #32

    Thank you for the specific information, I really appreciate it :o
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