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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Met "Justin" there? What would make you consider that? Justin said he didn't even know KP's last name. Did Justin attend school there?
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Just wondering if anyone has come across a link that states KP watched child porn? I read several references saying he did but I've never seen that said as fact. TIA
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Thank you for your post. We have ALL known Eddie Haskell types in our lives. Some become quite obvious rather quickly, while others are SO good at deceiving unsuspecting people. Even the brightest can be fooled by the skilled deceiver.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Thank you so much! I saw them and passed your post on accordingly. Those are the ones I was referring to.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    My original response didn't provide a link, but Post #1043 has some of the grandma's other statements about her interactions and observations of KP and states he had been in her home about a dozen times.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I don't have the links, per se. The other things she said in various other interviews and she wasn't referring to the drinking/rocking incident, but other interactions grandma had with KP. The articles were in MSM and are posted on this thread. That's the best I can do.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    No, it certainly is not rocket science. ID's and background checks for everyone, including Auntie Mary, teachers, priests, doctors, and even your OWN kids! Because, in reality, you really can't trust anyone as the various cases on WS prove over and over again :( And, there's that single glass...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I believe I understood your response. Then in response to THIS post, what reason did she have to not "allow" him in her home before even knowing he would get "drunk" and then rock the baby?
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Remember how gentle and helpful and tidy he had been and had played with the baby? Those were also some of the behaviors the grandma had observed. I'm simply trying to figure out, in all honesty, how the behaviors she observed should have caused red flags indicating the monster that he is?
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    I DO understand, because they don't get ANY more cautious than myself, BUT, (sigh . . . . ) my question/scenario does not include what one would "allow". But that's okay and I appreciate your response.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Well, thanks so much for your reply. But, my question was so simple (I thought) and never included what one would "allow". Grandma didn't "allow" KP to rock Shaylyn. And, apparently, the rocking incident didn't cause her to have any obvious red flags (as there were other very positive...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Another poster also said upthread, that the description of drunk varies, which, IMO,it does. To what degree KP was drunk or if the grandma knows the "true" definition of drunk and used the word accordingly, we don't know. We know she didn't say he lurched from wall to wall, and the only moving...
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    This discussion doesn't question if KP did what he is charged with, it's about what, if any, red flags existed that the grandma and father knew of or should have known of. That's THIS discussion.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    Well then, we could be twins :). Having said that (though), that's not the scenario (at all) that I outlined. As far as "drunk" goes, I might consider someone drunk after two beers or a glass of wine, where someone else would not.
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    GUILTY IN - Shaylyn Ammerman, 14 mos, Spencer, 23 March 2016 #2

    No, Ms.Marple, I didn't count you :)

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