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    VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #35 Retrial

    Not a MA lawyer, but I think MA may have strict liability for dog bites. If death results, the owner can face a wrongful death lawsuit (which could include damages for JOK's future income loss and loss of companionship, etc.). Not all insurance policies will provide liability coverage...
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    VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #35 Retrial

    I initially thought the CW was right in bringing the charges they did. I watched all of season 1 and season 2, and tonight I watched the closing arguments with my spouse (a senior prosecutor). After all of the evidence and the arguments, I still don't know what happened to JOK. I don't...
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    MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #33 Retrial

    My fear. The jury will try to fill in the gaps left by the CW: Karen was there and angry. JOK was there, having just exited the vehicle. The tail light was shattered (no other testified explanation), and JOK was struck, falling and suffering serious injury. She said "she hit him". Ignore the...
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    MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #29 Retrial

    Here we are again with divided opinions .... but in this trial, I think the prosecution appears to be more effective than before, and the defence more surgical in their cross. Love Alessi. Today, I thought Dr. Wolf's testimony and cross benefited both sides to some degree (for the defence...
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    GUILTY ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell *Arrests* #77

    Watched today's hearing - motions will be coming from Daybell to extend the time and from the state to permit them to meet with Pryor (regarding the ineffectiveness of counsel assertion). Next status conference is set for August 28.
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    GUILTY TRIAL OF CHAD DAYBELL CHARGED WITH MURDER OF JJ VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN AND TAMMY DAYBELL #8

    Watched today's hearing - motions will be coming from Daybell to extend the time and from the state to permit them to meet with Pryor (regarding the ineffectiveness of counsel assertion). Next status conference is set for August 28.
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    MISTRIAL MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #17

    I am a lawyer (law professor) in Canada, and my husband is a prosecutor. We have discussed this crazy situation and both of us are adamant that regardless of any interpretation of the rules and common law, ethics apply here. If there is evidence the jury may have reached a unanimous (but...
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    MISTRIAL MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #16

    Like most of you, I thought this was an abysmal trial, and while frustrated, I am not surprised it resulted in a hung jury. Unlike many, I do hope the CW restructures their case and files again because I do want to see cogent evidence led and tested. I want the truth (or at least the best that...
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    VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #15

    Deeply held convictions might be: 1) LE can make mistakes, investigations can be shoddy, but believing LE would conspire and PLANT evidence is unreasonable. 2) Science and qualified experts are most important in determining the truth. Either (or others) might be impacting the jury?
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    VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #15

    Websleuthers, we are divided. We have all looked carefully at the evidence, applied our common sense and reached different conclusions regarding whether she hit him, and whether the CW met their burden. The jury must be the same. If they are like us, I think (reading our comments), the...
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    VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #14

    Just my thoughts. Can you imagine the incredulity the FBI is experiencing if they are in fact conducting an investigation into improprieties by MSP but the FBI is not ready to move just yet? Maybe they wanted to lock down the witnesses who may have perjured themselves. So, they shared...
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    VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #14

    TBH I'm angry. All these weeks of testimony, and I cannot say with any degree of moral certainty how JO'K died. I blame the CW for failing to meet their burden. For not responding adequately to the science. This woman's life is in jeopardy and there is no question, JO'K deserved better. I'm...
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    VERDICT WATCH MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #13

    I listened to all of the evidence and the closing arguments. No prejudging, no bias. I liked AJ's closing more than CW's, but I silenced all of the noise. On the facts, I would find Ms. Read NG. My biggest hurdle to conviction was the science (sorry Trooper Paul) and the burden of proof. I do...
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    MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #12

    I can't recall a trial where there was such ambiguity or disagreement surrounding critical issues, including how this officer's injuries occurred. All of us seem to be "most persuaded" by different "facts". We are all trying to link the "facts" we find reliable into a coherent scenario - one...
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    MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #11

    Today, I thought the strongest evidence for the defence was the sincerity of Lucky's testimony, his identification of the Ford Edge's presence, and his conviction there was nothing on the lawn. Next, Dr. Russell's expertise and her unwavering assertion that JO'K's arm injuries were attributable...

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