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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    “Most reviews are carried out by the local Police and Crime Commissioner’s office (or the Mayor’s office in Manchester and London), or an organisation designated to conduct reviews by the PCC/ Mayor. PCCs/ Mayors should have information about applying for a review on their websites. This review...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    A post today from the Doctors Association UK about the submitted perjury charges for Dr J by an MP to the police. For those who may be unaware a complaint by a member of parliament to a public service has to be legally addressed and can’t just be ignored., it’s the equivalent of being accepted...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    If you read this thread they always are- it really doesn’t matter what I post or who I respond to. I’ve made peace with the fact that most people aren’t actually reading the entire thread, but just commenting on individual posts that they fall upon and know they disagree with (their perception...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    Would it have harmed her case if they had or had not been shared? My original post was a reply to another poster who was suggesting the sheer number of charges was relevant and for me it just raised the question above, I will share my original response again: “The court system is run in the...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    I don’t know ask @katydid23 it was her post with 27 that I responded to and broke down to charges at the trial.🤷‍♀️ “When you look at 27 incidents where babies had unusual and very similar reactions to the emergency resuscitation---not responding to adrenaline shots, needing 3 to 5 shots instead...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    Or maybe I’m just the only one who holds my hands up and admits after 145 days in court I would probably go and read some of the live trial reporting to refresh my brain. I certainly wouldn’t break the judges directions and go reading random articles- but the Cheshire Standard did articles...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    No I was responding to a poster who stated there were 27 charges brought against Letby. Just made me consider how many of those actually went to trial and the fact that such a high number of cases that she was initially accused of through the judicial process were dropped, but that’s not deemed...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    No it wasn’t, but it was a secret that 25% of the cases that were used to send her to trial were subsequently dropped as they weren’t strong enough to put through a trial process.
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    So your assumption is ok, but mine isn’t? Either could be correct. Unless you have evidence that the judges direction I posted was incorrect and the judge altered his direction to the jury, then the fact stands that the jury were allowed to read press articles during the trial and during...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    No it’s not intended to criticise the jury, my post had nothing to do with the jury outcomes.
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    Out of 27 incidents, 13 were either dropped (7) she was found not guilty (2) or there was no verdict (4) reached- that’s almost 50% Guilty of murder x 7 Unanimous: Baby O Majority(10:1): Babies A, C, D, E, I & P Guilty of attempted murder x 6 Unanimous: Babies F & L Majority(10:1): Babies B...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    I think it is naive, with the length of trial, to not believe that at least some of the jury will have used press reporting as an aide memoir. If they weren’t advised against it, why wouldn’t they? Which brings me back to my initial pondering, would the trial have been more or less reliable...
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    I have edited my post to include exactly what they were directed by the judge- he did not exclude or advise them against reading press articles, therefore they were “permitted” to read them.
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    UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

    That’s how Juries are directed by the judge- they are not allowed to post on social media and they are told to disregard things they have read in the press that may influence them but wasn’t presented at the trial and and not to do their own research into specific aspects of a case- there is no...

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