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    OK - Mother and stepfather charged after 11-year old girl gives birth at home - MUSKOGEE, Aug 2025

    I don’t want to stray too far into hypotheticals, but part of the logistical trouble states like Oklahoma are currently in is that even if there is technically an exception in the law, it functions like a total ban because nearly all doctors who will certify such an exception have long since...
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    OK - Mother and stepfather charged after 11-year old girl gives birth at home - MUSKOGEE, Aug 2025

    I agree. Listen to how up in arms we all are about the situation this child was in (and will live with until her last breath). This is exactly the sort of scenario that even most abortion opponents make exceptions for in their minds. But when you make total ban laws, there is no room for that...
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    OK - Mother and stepfather charged after 11-year old girl gives birth at home - MUSKOGEE, Aug 2025

    Me too! Not least because they don’t seem able and/or willing to spay/neuter them.
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    OK - Mother and stepfather charged after 11-year old girl gives birth at home - MUSKOGEE, Aug 2025

    Grandma’s FB, linked up thread, reveals she is big on excuses. And asking for prayers as a vehicle for complaining/seeking attention.
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    OK - Mother and stepfather charged after 11-year old girl gives birth at home - MUSKOGEE, Aug 2025

    Has anyone seen a source stating that the baby DID survive? I haven’t heard anything about its survival, sex, medical status, custody placement, etc, only that the birth took place and that paternity has been established. Probably this is just to preserve privacy of everyone involved as well as...
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    CA - Polly Klaas, 12, murdered, Petaluma, 1 Oct 1993

    did a search to see if anyone else had read this book! I just read it earlier this month. I have mixed feelings. I truly appreciated learning so much detailed information about the case, especially from law enforcement. But the lack of involvement or apparent approval from PK's family sort of...
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    OK - Mother and stepfather charged after 11-year old girl gives birth at home - MUSKOGEE, Aug 2025

    Grandma's FB alludes to a few topics we have been wondering about. * The 11-year-old and probably the next oldest child do seem to be from at least one relationship (possibly 2) that CW had prior to her marriage to DW (the step-father) * CW was involved in custody disputes with the 11-year-old's...
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    CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

    Thank you for pointing that out, I hadn't seen that footage either. Their little performance is NUTS. Poking around in the bushes and along fencelines, good god. Using their little 2-year-old as part of the drama! Especially knowing this was the only actual "searching" they ever did. But sure...
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    CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

    Most people who were beaten as children do not grow up to abuse children. But being an abused child is a significant risk factor for becoming a child abuser as a parent...
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    CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

    I sure have. Lots of kids have parents who indulge and fail to parent them out of inability, laziness, and past trauma, but then have a breaking point that causes them to respond with anger and sometimes violence when the kid crosses it. -elementary school teacher
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    CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

    Probably the sort of spoiled rotten kid who also at least occasionally was beaten by his caregivers. NOT AN EXCUSE, just a likelihood.
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    CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

    This makes me wonder about that family member of JH's who did several video interviews right after the "kidnapping," talking about the baby's crossed eye but how much she loved him anyway, etc. (She seems to have quieted down considerably now.) And RH's mother, who seems to have spent at least...
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    CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

    Wow. It sounds like 1. grifting, defrauding, and lazing about pretty much ARE the family professions and 2. RH is EXTRA slow. I hope those older daughters are all okay. All the kids including the 2-year-old also, of course, but she seems like on paper she has the best chance.
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    CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

    I'm getting the feeling that all of the wives and the surrounding family believe his story that the 10-week-old's tragic injuries were Wife #2's fault. Why else would you not fight for him to never have access to your child (Wife #1), or never have children with him in the first place (RH, #3)...

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