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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 34

    So many possibilities. I believe it is one of the following: Jealous/Angry ExBF Jealous/Angry Peripheral Person (wannabe BF/Stalker) Possibly Related to Recent DTD Member's Drowning Possible Beef With Sigma Chi Until the Greek Wall cracks, we may never know the truth, which is shameful. 4...
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 20

    Was it established that Ethan lived at the Sigma Chi house? Maybe I missed it.
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    ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 11

    In the statement Alivea Goncalves made regarding the 6 phone calls from KG's phone and 3 calls from MM's phone, did she specify which J was being called, or is it just assumed the calls were to the J who is KG's ex?
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    Did Joseph have a permit to carry the gun? He resided in Lakewood which is in Los Angeles County. Apparently it is extremely difficult to obtain a CCW license in Los Angeles County.
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    Most people have an intense desire to live when faced with imminent death. Aron Ralston comes to mind.
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    With the mercy/suicide scenario, why would Joseph have killed Rachel when he had no idea where the search party was or when they would potentially arrive? Yet, he still decides the best option is to shoot her? Additionally, if killing Rachel was a mercy killing to end her pain and suffering...
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    <<Still, in the days leading to Nguyen's 20th birthday, she had a crush on a guy and when she suggested that he join her for hiking to celebrate, he turned out to be busy. "He told her to go with Joseph instead, he would see her later," Le said, adding that Orbeso was not Nguyen's boyfriend.>>...
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    My take is that the Orbeso family likely brought that up first (that their son did it to put an end to their suffering), possibly asking if that was a possibility based on what the investigators knew, and the investigators likely agreed that it was one of several scenarios that would be looked...
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    The official press release from the San Bernardino Sheriff's Dept. does not make any statement regarding mercy/suicide or murder/suicide. From the press release: Based on evidence located at the scene, detectives believe Orbeso shot Nguyen, then shot himself. The investigation into...
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    As far as I am aware, only Austin Young, Joseph's childhood friend, has mentioned Rachel having a stalker. He stated that was the reason Joseph brought the gun on the trip. He was either told that by Joseph or is making it up. I don't believe a family member or anyone else associated with the...
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    She could have been pushed for all we know. Even after the investigation is complete, we may never know what really happened.
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    Was it really 114 degrees? https://m.accuweather.com/en/us/joshua-tree-ca/92252/july-weather/2154397 This shows 101 on the 27th of July which is still very hot, don't get me wrong. But it's a far cry from 114. Also, from youtube videos of the area of the park where they went hiking, it looks...
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    I'm having a hard time understanding why so many are favoring the mercy/suicide scenario. I can't recall any other mercy/suicides outside of those involving terminally ill elderly people. At a certain point, probability and statistics have to come in to play. Murder/suicide is a more likely...
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #2

    Sorry, that was a typo. Mr. Young is a childhood friend of Joseph's and he was quoted as saying he did not want Joseph to go down as a murderer.
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    Found Deceased CA - Rachel Nguyen, 20, & Joseph Orbeso, 21, Joshua Tree Nat'l Park, 27 July 2017 #1

    Since nobody apparently heard gunshots, I wonder if the gun was equipped with a silencer/suppressor. The KMIR story now posted 2x rubs me the wrong way. I understand the family's desire to protect their son's legacy, however, when such strong emotions are involved, those emotions can prevent...

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