4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #102

[ChatteringBirds]

This tragedy seems to be breaking news:

Police said they responded to King Road for a report of an unconscious person. When officers arrived, they “discovered four individuals who were deceased...”

4 Idaho college students killed in 'targeted attack,' no suspects in custody

Four University of Idaho students were found dead on Sunday, officials said.

abcnews.go.com

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Probable Cause Affidavit

Press photo album (compilation courtesy of WS member cujenn81)

Moscow ID Police Department Facebook page

City of Moscow re King Road Homicide

Media Guide to the Idaho Courts

Detectives are looking to develop context for the events and people involved in the four murders at 1122 King Rd in Moscow, Idaho. Anyone who observed notable behavior, has video surveillance, or can provide relevant information about these murders:

• Telephone: 208-883-7180
• Email: tipline@ci.moscow.id.us
• Digital Media: fbi.gov/moscowidaho

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

There is no known, legitimate source to any claim that there was no victim DNA on the knife sheath or that
a bloody glove was found by CSI.

Relevant posts have been removed.

 

[Tricia]

Please continue posting on this thread.
You all are amazing. I love reading your posts.
Thank you,
Tricia

 

[arielilane]

Ada County CR01-24-31665

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State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger

JUDGE
Hippler, Steven


COUNTY
Boise, Ada, Elmore, Valley

COURT
District

DISTRICT
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[Megnut]

Wondering how BK prepared for battle. Jousting? Plunging?

Somewhere is there an internet history on lethal force, specifically with a Marine kbar? BK's internet history.... easy to imagine, given his PhD courseload, he could explain away a prudent interest in all things criminal and murdery.

What did he intend to do with the sheath? Scrub it and leave it as a calling card? Clearly it wasn't belted. So was he holding it? Thought he could murder a sleeping victim in one or two thrusts and leave with the knife in one hand and the sheath still in the other? Or did he pocket it and it fell out accidentally?

IMO BK exited the house with the knife in hand. Perhaps held in much the same way one might carry a handheld vacuum.

He may have made it to his car, or even to his disposal site, before he realized he had no sheath. It's also possible, if he does up everything all together, coveralls, gloves, knife, etc, etc, he might not have realized it at all. Until he read online what we all read online, that LE was looking for a specific knife purchased locally.

I womder how he feels now to have failed so elementary-schoolily. PhDumb.

JMO

 

[SteveP]

Bringing this forward from last thread...

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Post in thread '4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #101'

Mar 13, 2025

I don't see that happening here, I truly don't. MOO

There are no slam dunks- no sure thing. Things happen during a trial that are unforseen. I believe he should be found guilty and more likely than not he will be found guilty, but there is always a chance for a mistrial or acquittal. You just never know.

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Certainly, cases such as OJ Simpson's murder trial and the Casey Anthony trial do remind us that no case is ever a slam dunk. In this case, the totality of just the evidence that we already know of, not to mention what else there is that we are not yet privy to, and the latest news that the defense does not plan to question the existence of BK's DNA on the bloody knife sheath left in bed with MM, but will suggest that it was planted by the real perpetrator, leads me to believe that this is about as close to a slam dunk as any trial can be. While I think there exists maybe a very slim chance that one or two jurors out of any random group of twelve, may not be convinced of his guilt, I cannot even begin to imagine a scenario where any grouping of 12 jurors could listen to the evidence that will be presented, and find BK not guilty. JMO

 

[Ghostwheel]

Wondering how BK prepared for battle. Jousting? Plunging?

Somewhere is there an internet history on lethal force, specifically with a Marine kbar? BK's internet history.... easy to imagine, given his PhD courseload, he could explain away a prudent interest in all things criminal and murdery.

What did he intend to do with the sheath? Scrub it and leave it as a calling card? Clearly it wasn't belted. So was he holding it? Thought he could murder a sleeping victim in one or two thrusts and leave with the knife in one hand and the sheath still in the other? Or did he pocket it and it fell out accidentally?

IMO BK exited the house with the knife in hand. Perhaps held in much the same way one might carry a handheld vacuum.

He may have made it to his car, or even to his disposal site, before he realized he had no sheath. It's also possible, if he does up everything all together, coveralls, gloves, knife, etc, etc, he might not have realized it at all. Until he read online what we all read online, that LE was looking for a specific knife purchased locally.

I womder how he feels now to have failed so elementary-schoolily. PhDumb.

JMO

There might not be any internet history. Wasn't he in a law enforcement program? I took some of those and there is a ton of information you learn about people with knives (mostly how to defend yourself, but that also teaches you what a person with a knife will do and what it can do to you)

Bryan Kohberger booted from police program after complaints from classmates: admin

Former administrator Tanya Carmella-Beers revealed Bryan Kohberger was briefly on the protective services track at a vocational school near his parents’ Monroe County, Pennsylvania home.

nypost.com

 

[Balthazar]

DBM

 

[MassGuy]

DBM

Is this a joke?

 

[arielilane]

Had BK, mass murderer not been caught end up as a serial killer?
In my opinion, most likely.
However, as someone stated on the other thread, he is probably glad to be where he is at right now. Safe and secure. He’s enjoying the limelight. jmo

 

[Nila Aella]

Case Summary

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[windrower]

Question for those with medical knowledge. (I’ll Google, too, but . . .)

Does a “mixed blood sample” always mean a male/female mix?

Or can it mean a mix of blood types, like there’s blood type A+ and a type B?
Or two or more females?

I ask, because I haven’t read where the “mixed blood” on the sheath has been stated as male/female. Has it been clarified or is it inferred?

[Off topic, sort of, but is @10ofRods okay? S/he posted often on the DNA information, which I very much appreciated.]

 

[MassGuy]

Question for those with medical knowledge. (I’ll Google, too, but . . .)

Does a “mixed blood sample” always mean a male/female mix?

Or can it mean a mix of blood types, like there’s blood type A+ and a type B?
Or two or more females?

I ask, because I haven’t read where the “mixed blood” on the sheath has been stated as male/female. Has it been clarified or is it inferred?

[Off topic, sort of, but is @10ofRods okay? S/he posted often on the DNA information, which I very much appreciated.]

No. It simply means blood from different contributors. It could be from multiple females, multiple males, or both female and male.

We don't know whose blood is on that sheath. If there is male blood on there, it can only be Ethan's (highly unlikely there is male blood though).

I say this because if it was Kohberger's, that's what they would have IGG tested. If it was unidentified, the defense would have mentioned it so many times we'd be sick of hearing about it.

 

[MeadowMuffin]

Question for those with medical knowledge. (I’ll Google, too, but . . .)

Does a “mixed blood sample” always mean a male/female mix?

Or can it mean a mix of blood types, like there’s blood type A+ and a type B?
Or two or more females?

I ask, because I haven’t read where the “mixed blood” on the sheath has been stated as male/female. Has it been clarified or is it inferred?

[Off topic, sort of, but is @10ofRods okay? S/he posted often on the DNA information, which I very much appreciated.]

IMO as an RN, mixed blood sample means 2 or more blood samples. Male/ male, female/female, or male/female.

 

[Justice101]

Still following..... the trial cannot get here quick enough.,,,, but I do believe, the right person responsible is behind bars and cannot hurt any others up through when the trial happens.

 

[Megnut]

Question for those with medical knowledge. (I’ll Google, too, but . . .)

Does a “mixed blood sample” always mean a male/female mix?

Or can it mean a mix of blood types, like there’s blood type A+ and a type B?
Or two or more females?

I ask, because I haven’t read where the “mixed blood” on the sheath has been stated as male/female. Has it been clarified or is it inferred?

[Off topic, sort of, but is @10ofRods okay? S/he posted often on the DNA information, which I very much appreciated.]

Mixed simply means two or more contributors.

It may mean there are two or more FULL profiles but often full profiles cannot be developed.

In this case, AT has been quick to say there's no match to BK (not consistent with), she leaves the implication open, that there's male DNA that isn't BK's but could belong to another male murderer. Smoked mirror. It's likely to be a mixture of the two individuals who were slaughtered in that bed, two individuals who happen to both be female. Therefore it would be factual to say it's not BK's. No Y at all. Just X's. AFAIK we have not learned that it's a three-part mixture or that there's ANY male DNA in it.

At trial, we're likely to learn it was a mixture, and that KG and MM are major contributors, to a high statistical probability. With no mystery DNA.

JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

Question for those with medical knowledge. (I’ll Google, too, but . . .)

Does a “mixed blood sample” always mean a male/female mix?

Or can it mean a mix of blood types, like there’s blood type A+ and a type B?
Or two or more females?

I ask, because I haven’t read where the “mixed blood” on the sheath has been stated as male/female. Has it been clarified or is it inferred?

[Off topic, sort of, but is @10ofRods okay? S/he posted often on the DNA information, which I very much appreciated.]

From other cases I have learned, but still just opinion, that mixed blood is no more than more than one person leaving blood in the same spot. 2 different people leave blood on a door handle and it is mixed blood. Doesn't matter the type of blood or sex of blood source. Could both even be same blood type but markers (blood profiling) show 2 different people.

2 Cents

 

[Cool Cats]

Had BK, mass murderer not been caught end up as a serial killer?
In my opinion, most likely.
However, as someone stated on the other thread, he is probably glad to be where he is at right now. Safe and secure. He’s enjoying the limelight. jmo

I think he did not want to get caught and hates jail. He is not playing to the cameras in court, he is very stoic. I only have seen one photo of him smiling and one photo of him looking at the camera. He avoids the victims. I think he is not comfortable and even if he left the sheath as a calling card his DNA on the snap was a mistake.

He botched it up. Somehow didn't realize a person was awake getting food, somehow missed the DD delivery, or decided to take an arrogant reckless chance to go to 3rd floor and kill quickly but found 2 in the bed and found a boyfriend there, confronted people, etc.

For some reason he was determined to do it that night rather than wait. He had all his plastic down and all his dark clothes and hole dug to dispose knife etc... And so just barged in to do what he planned on that specific night.

2 Cents

 

[MeadowMuffin]

I think he did not want to get caught and hates jail. He is not playing to the cameras in court, he is very stoic. I only have seen one photo of him smiling and one photo of him looking at the camera. He avoids the victims. I think he is not comfortable and even if he left the sheath as a calling card his DNA on the snap was a mistake.

He botched it up. Somehow didn't realize a person was awake getting food, somehow missed the DD delivery, or decided to take an arrogant reckless chance to go to 3rd floor and kill quickly but found 2 in the bed and found a boyfriend there, confronted people, etc.

For some reason he was determined to do it that night rather than wait. He had all his plastic down and all his dark clothes and hole dug to dispose knife etc... And so just barged in to do what he planned on that specific night.

2 Cents

I've always thought he dug a hole to bury his knife. I just can't believe he'd throw it in a body of water; i believe it meant a lot to him. I've read where perps will dig a hole and sink in a wide piece of PVC pipe and cap it off after secreting their souvenirs, so they can use their weapon again or just "visit" it. He had the shovel, wonder if it had dirt on it when it was taken by LE.

 

[detectivewannab]

Does anyone recall what time he drive by the house the next morning?