4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #102

[MassGuy]

Does anyone recall what time he drive by the house the next morning?

Bryan Kohberger arrest affidavit in Idaho murders

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[Cool Cats]

I've always thought he dug a hole to bury his knife. I just can't believe he'd throw it in a body of water; i believe it meant a lot to him. I've read where perps will dig a hole and sink in a wide piece of PVC pipe and cap it off, so they can use it again or just "visit" it. He had the shovel, wonder if it had dirt on it when it was taken by LE.

LE divers find
murder items all the time thrown in bodies of water. Seen this in many cases. I believe one reason he drove all over county roads instead of driving the Hwy straight back to Pullman is because he had a hole dug out in the boonies somewhere where he deeply buried all his clothes, plastic and knife and changed into different clothes and shoes.

As in other cases I have followed I believe he wore a type of shoe he normally does not wear and a size he normally does not where.

As for the shovel, he buried it or washed it. I think a shovel was found in his car but odds are it was a different shovel or washed in the river. I believe he also stopped by a river. This is an excellent place for him to rinse himself off and his shovel if he did not bury his shovel.

His murder belongings would float and wash up somewhere so I believed they are buried out off some country road somewhere.

If he takes a plea he will be pressured to tell Bill Thompson where he buried the knife. This is common practice. Some murderers weight down their murder items under water with quick drying cement. If BK purchased plastic tarps and plastic rolls and cement it is game over.

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[detectivewannab]

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Bryan Kohberger arrest affidavit in Idaho murders

www.documentcloud.org

So creepy. Love to see his computer searches.

 

[Megnut]

Does anyone recall what time he drive by the house the next morning?

Further review indicated that the 8458 Phone utilized cellular resources on November 13,2022 thsl are consistent with the 8458 Phone leaving the area ofthe Kohberger Residence atapproximalely 9:00 a.m. and traveling to Moscow, ID. Specificaily, the 8458 Phone utilizedcellular resources that would provide coverage to the King Road Residence between 9: 12 a,m.and 9:21 am. The 8458 Phone next utilized cellular resources that are consistent with the 8458 Phone traveling back to the area ofthe Kohberger Residence and arriving to the area at approximately 9:32 a.m.

Bryan Kohberger arrest affidavit in Idaho murders

www.documentcloud.org

 

[fcavanaugh]

LE divers find
murder items all the time thrown in bodies of water. Seen this in many cases. I believe one reason he drove all over county roads instead of driving the Hwy straight back to Pullman is because he had a hole dug out in the boonies somewhere where he deeply buried all his clothes, plastic and knife and changed into different clothes and shoes.

As in other cases I have followed I believe he wore a type of shoe he normally does not wear and a size he normally does not where.

As for the shovel, he buried it or washed it. I think a shovel was found in his car but odds are it was a different shovel or washed in the river. I believe he also stopped by a river. This is an excellent place for him to rinse himself off and his shovel if he did not bury his shovel.

His murder belongings would float and wash up somewhere so I believed they are buried out off some country road somewhere.

If he takes a plea he will be pressured to tell Bill Thompson where he buried the knife. This is common practice. Some murderers weight down their murder items under water with quick drying cement. If BK purchased plastic tarps and plastic rolls and cement it is game over.

2 Cents

I agree he likely had pre-dug a hole somewhere to dispose/bury the murder weapon (KBar) and other items he likely wore during the massacre (coveralls, mask, booties etc.) versus dumping them in a waterway.

Iirc, someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t his phone offline the same evening of the murders (11/13/22) from about 5-5:30pm until 8:00pm. I’ve often wondered if this timeframe is when he was disposing of some? all? of the rest of incriminating evidence.

Crazy to think about him driving by the scene at 9:00am that morning with a bag full of all the other incriminating evidence (minus the knife sheath of course) in his trunk to dispose/bury later that evening (5-8pm) under the cover of darkness.

***Found link, snipped and BBM:
Additional analysis of records for the 8458 Phone indicated that between approximately 5:32 p.m. and 5:36 p.m., the 8458 Phone utilized cellular resources that provide coverage to Johnson, ID. The 8458 Phone then stops reporting to the network from approximately 5:36 p.m.to 8:30 p.m. That is consistent with the 8458 Phone being the area that the 8458 Phone traveled in the hours immediately following the suspected time the homicides occurred.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/01/122922-Affidavit-Exhibit-A-Statement-of-Brett-Payne.pdf

IMHOO

ETA-link and snipped paragraph from link

 

[Cool Cats]

I agree he likely had pre-dug a hole somewhere to dispose/bury the murder weapon (KBar) and other items he likely wore during the massacre (coveralls, mask, booties etc.) versus dumping them in a waterway.

Iirc, someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t his phone offline the same evening of the murders (11/13/22) from about 5-5:30pm until 8:00pm. I’ve often wondered if this timeframe is when he was disposing of some? all? of the rest of incriminating evidence.

Crazy to think about him driving by the scene at 9:00am that morning with a bag full of all the other incriminating evidence (minus the knife sheath of course) in his trunk to dispose/bury later that evening (5-8pm) under the cover of darkness.

IMHOO

The phone Kohberger allegedly used initially pinged at his apartment in Pullman, Washington — about a 10- to 15-minute drive from King Road in Moscow — around 2:47 a.m. the morning of the murders. The connection was then disabled until 4:48 a.m., at which point his phone pinged in various locations south of Moscow and then again in Pullman around 5:30 a.m., leading investigators to determine that the suspect may have been trying to deter police.

"Additionally, the route of travel of the 8458 Phone during the early morning hours of November 13, 2022, and the lack of the 8458 Phone reporting to AT&T between 2:47 am and 4:48 am is consistent with Kohberger attempting to conceal his location during the quadruple homicide that occurred on King Road in Moscow," he added.

5 hours later....

Kohberger's cellphone "utilized cellular resources that would provide coverage to the King Road Residence between 9:12 a.m. and 9:21 a.m.," the affidavit reads. The cellphone then traveled back to the Kohberger Residence, arriving at approximately 9:32 a.m., according to the affidavit.

Idaho Suspect's Cell Phone Pinged Near Home Where Killings Took Place a Dozen Times: Affidavit

University of Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger, 28, was near the home where the killings took place at least a dozen times prior to the day of the killings, the probable cause affidavit alleges

people.com

 

[arielilane]

"This is with the exception of Kenrodle, who received a DoorDash order

at the residence at approximately 4:00 a.m. (law enforcement identified the DoorDash delivery

driver who reported this information)."

Affidavit

"The combination of D.M.'s statements to law enforcement, reviews of forensic

downloads of records from B.F. and D.M.'s phone, and video ofa suspect video as described

below leads investigators to believe the homicides occurred between 4:00 a.m. and 4:25 am."


"During the processing of the crime scene, investigators found a latent shoe print. This

was located during the second processing ofthe crime scene by the ISP Forensic Team by first

using a presumptive blood test and then Amino Black, a protein stain that detects the presence of

cellular material. The detected shoe print showed a diamond-shaped pattern (similar to the

pattern of a Vans type shoe sole) just outside the door of D.M.'s bedroom (located on second

floor ). This is consistent with D.M.'s statement regarding the suspect's path of travel."

 

[fcavanaugh]

The phone Kohberger allegedly used initially pinged at his apartment in Pullman, Washington — about a 10- to 15-minute drive from King Road in Moscow — around 2:47 a.m. the morning of the murders. The connection was then disabled until 4:48 a.m., at which point his phone pinged in various locations south of Moscow and then again in Pullman around 5:30 a.m., leading investigators to determine that the suspect may have been trying to deter police.

"Additionally, the route of travel of the 8458 Phone during the early morning hours of November 13, 2022, and the lack of the 8458 Phone reporting to AT&T between 2:47 am and 4:48 am is consistent with Kohberger attempting to conceal his location during the quadruple homicide that occurred on King Road in Moscow," he added.

5 hours later....

Kohberger's cellphone "utilized cellular resources that would provide coverage to the King Road Residence between 9:12 a.m. and 9:21 a.m.," the affidavit reads. The cellphone then traveled back to the Kohberger Residence, arriving at approximately 9:32 a.m., according to the affidavit.

Idaho Suspect's Cell Phone Pinged Near Home Where Killings Took Place a Dozen Times: Affidavit

University of Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger, 28, was near the home where the killings took place at least a dozen times prior to the day of the killings, the probable cause affidavit alleges

people.com

Thanks @Cool Cats, I went searching and found link and added to my post probably as you were typing at same time. Here’s what I found, snipped from link below:

Additional analysis of records for the 8458 Phone indicated that between approximately 5:32 p.m. and 5:36 p.m., the 8458 Phone utilized cellular resources that provide coverage to Johnson, ID. The 8458 Phone then stops reporting to the network from approximately 5:36 p.m.to 8:30 p.m. That is consistent with the 8458 Phone being the area that the 8458 Phone traveled in the hours immediately following the suspected time the homicides occurred.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/01/122922-Affidavit-Exhibit-A-Statement-of-Brett-Payne.pdf

IMHOO

 

[Cool Cats]

Thanks @Cool Cats, I went searching and found link and added to my post probably as you were typing at same time. Here’s what I found, snipped from link below:

Additional analysis of records for the 8458 Phone indicated that between approximately 5:32 p.m. and 5:36 p.m., the 8458 Phone utilized cellular resources that provide coverage to Johnson, ID. The 8458 Phone then stops reporting to the network from approximately 5:36 p.m.to 8:30 p.m. That is consistent with the 8458 Phone being the area that the 8458 Phone traveled in the hours immediately following the suspected time the homicides occurred.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/01/122922-Affidavit-Exhibit-A-Statement-of-Brett-Payne.pdf

IMHOO

Very interesting. So this is the day before the murders?

Or the day LE discovered the murders?

 

[arielilane]

"Officer Whitnan also ran the car and it returned to Kohberger with a Washinglon tag. I

reviewed Kohberger's WA state driver license information and photograph. This license indicates

that Kohberger is a white male with a height of 6' and weighs 185 pounds. Additionally, the

photograph of Kohberger shows that he has bushy eyebrows. Kohberger's physical description is

consistent with the description of the male D.M. saw inside the King Road Residence on

November 13th."

Affidavit

 

[arielilane]

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[mmeynstyn]

Wondering how BK prepared for battle. Jousting? Plunging?

Somewhere is there an internet history on lethal force, specifically with a Marine kbar? BK's internet history.... easy to imagine, given his PhD courseload, he could explain away a prudent interest in all things criminal and murdery.

What did he intend to do with the sheath? Scrub it and leave it as a calling card? Clearly it wasn't belted. So was he holding it? Thought he could murder a sleeping victim in one or two thrusts and leave with the knife in one hand and the sheath still in the other? Or did he pocket it and it fell out accidentally?

IMO BK exited the house with the knife in hand. Perhaps held in much the same way one might carry a handheld vacuum.

He may have made it to his car, or even to his disposal site, before he realized he had no sheath. It's also possible, if he does up everything all together, coveralls, gloves, knife, etc, etc, he might not have realized it at all. Until he read online what we all read online, that LE was looking for a specific knife purchased locally.

I womder how he feels now to have failed so elementary-schoolily. PhDumb.

JMO

BBMFE

He doesn't feel.

IMO

 

[fcavanaugh]

Very interesting. So this is the day before the murders?

Or the day LE discovered the murders?

This is the day of/the day LE discovered the murders-11/13/22.

See bottom of page 16 of the Affadavit starts with “further analysis” of Kohberger’s phone for 11/13/22. Page 17 lists more details of his phone utilizing cellular services that day like near the Albertson’s Grocery store at 12:46pm. Then a little further down on page 19 under “additional analysis” states Kohberger’s phone stopped reporting to the network from approximately 5:36pm - 8:30pm that same evening.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/01/122922-Affidavit-Exhibit-A-Statement-of-Brett-Payne.pdf

IMHOO

ETA-clarity

 

[Megnut]

Very interesting. So this is the day before the murders?

Or the day LE discovered the murders?

Iiuc, he went to an area after 4 am and then returned to that same area after 4 pm thst same day.

JMO

 

[mmeynstyn]

Does anyone recall what time he drive by the house the next morning?

“Specifically, the 8458 Phone utilized cellular resources that would provide coverage to the King Road Residence between 9.12am and 9.21am,” the PCA states.

 

[browneyes]

"This is with the exception of Kenrodle, who received a DoorDash order

at the residence at approximately 4:00 a.m. (law enforcement identified the DoorDash delivery

driver who reported this information)."

Affidavit

"The combination of D.M.'s statements to law enforcement, reviews of forensic

downloads of records from B.F. and D.M.'s phone, and video ofa suspect video as described

below leads investigators to believe the homicides occurred between 4:00 a.m. and 4:25 am."


"During the processing of the crime scene, investigators found a latent shoe print. This

was located during the second processing ofthe crime scene by the ISP Forensic Team by first

using a presumptive blood test and then Amino Black, a protein stain that detects the presence of

cellular material. The detected shoe print showed a diamond-shaped pattern (similar to the

pattern of a Vans type shoe sole) just outside the door of D.M.'s bedroom (located on second

floor ). This is consistent with D.M.'s statement regarding the suspect's path of travel."

I’ve been following this case but there is so much info. Have the details of the texts between SM and BF been disclosed? Also, what is the suspect video? Thanks in advance.

 

[arielilane]

"The 8458 Phone does not report to the network

again until approximately 4:48 a.m. at which time it utilized cellular resources that provide

coverage to ID state highway 95 south of Moscow, ID near Blaine, ID (north of Genesee).

Between 4:50 a.m. and 5:26 a.m., the phone utilizes cellular resources that are consistent with the

8458 Phone traveling south on ID state highway 95 to Genesee, ID, then traveling west towards

13 Uniontown, ID, and then north back into Pullman, WA."

Affidavit

 

[mmeynstyn]

Thanks @Cool Cats, I went searching and found link and added to my post probably as you were typing at same time. Here’s what I found, snipped from link below:

Additional analysis of records for the 8458 Phone indicated that between approximately 5:32 p.m. and 5:36 p.m., the 8458 Phone utilized cellular resources that provide coverage to Johnson, ID. The 8458 Phone then stops reporting to the network from approximately 5:36 p.m.to 8:30 p.m. That is consistent with the 8458 Phone being the area that the 8458 Phone traveled in the hours immediately following the suspected time the homicides occurred.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/01/122922-Affidavit-Exhibit-A-Statement-of-Brett-Payne.pdf

IMHOO

Johnson, ID....I've often wondered about that trip. Johnson, ID appears to be very rural (from Google Maps). Wonder what he was doing out there? Seems risky to wait that long to dispose of his clothes, etc. but it did cross my mind.

 

[arielilane]

I’ve been following this case but there is so much info. Have the details of the texts between SM and BF been disclosed? Also, what is the suspect video? Thanks in advance.

Could you elaborate on suspect video, please? Not sure what that means.

@BrianEntin


Text messages between Idaho surviving roommates released as part of latest Bryan Kohberger document dump.



7:46 PM · Mar 6, 2025

 

[Megnut]

Johnson, ID....I've often wondered about that trip. Johnson, ID appears to be very rural (from Google Maps). Wonder what he was doing out there? Seems risky to wait that long to dispose of his clothes, etc. but it did cross my mind.

If BK drove to a particular location after the crime in order to dispose of evidence, perhaps it dawned on him slowly that he never sheathed his knife.

What time was sunset?

Did he wait until dark to go back, in the hopes of finding his sheath wrapped up with his kill suit?

The man sure does like to loop around to the same places.

JMO