4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #102

[Zinn]

In DM’s mask description, the transcript says “a cross” but I suspect she meant “across.”

DM’s mask description and the type of mask I suspect she was describing:

 

[Curious Me]

I'm catching up late and reacting to this photo with anger. May Idaho give BK the ultimate FU.

Published March 20, 2025, 5:33 a.m. ET
Bryan Kohberger posted creepy thumbs-up selfie hours after Idaho student murders: ‘That’s an ‘F you’ to Idaho’

Bryan Kohberger posted creepy thumbs-up selfie hours after Idaho student murders: ‘That’s an ‘F you’ to Idaho’

Kohberger snapped a photo of himself standing in front of a shower giving an eerie half-smile while giving a thumbs up on Nov. 13, 2022.

nypost.com

Bryan Kohberger poses for a selfie prosecutors say was taken at 10:30 a.m. on Nov. 13, 2022. Hours after the quadruple slayings. AP

 

[Zinn]

IMO - I completely disagree & am happy to agree to disagree. For the context of the phone call, what happened at 4am is totally irrelevant & those details are not required by the 911 operator. The 911 operator was preventing the speaker discussing irrelevant information (For the situation at hand) because she needs to know what is happening right now. MOO

I think BF and DM had one set of concerns (unfamiliar masked man and noises around 4:00am followed by uncharacteristically unresponsive housemates) while EA had a different and more specific concern (Xana unresponsive, probably passed out from drinking the night before).

We don’t know how exactly EA assessed that Xana was passed out but we know DM replied that she did not know when the dispatcher asked if that was the case. BF similarly stated “something” had happened and was happening in the house but she did not know exactly what and she did not report an unconscious individual. We know she suspected the “something” was potentially bad due to her emotional state on the call. Additionally, DM attempted to interrupt and correct what EA was reporting to the dispatcher. The callers were not on the same page about the nature of the emergency, IMO.

The dispatcher did not interrupt EA reporting that the unconscious person had been drinking the night before, but once she understood there was an unconscious individual, she was focused on the status of that individual and not wanting to hear about different concerns or additional context from hours earlier, IMO. That makes sense. However, had EA not participated on the call, the dispatcher might not have heard anything about an unconscious individual, hearing instead that there was an unfamiliar masked man in the house hours earlier, followed by multiple unresponsive residents. JMO.

Speculation: I wonder if perhaps EA and/or HJ went to Xana’s bedroom door and knocked, shouted, texted/called and heard phone alerts through the door or some combination of those things. I further wonder if they had attended the Sigma Chi party the previous evening and made an assumption about the reason for Xana’s lack of responsiveness as a result (passed out from drinking). If so, it might explain why the reporting parties on the 911 call were not on the same page, ultimately leading to EA’s concerns being heard and DM’s concerns being deprioritized.

 

[Megnut]

Do we know what was visible from the hallway? Was the door closed, ajar?

NO ONE wants to barge in on a boyfriend and girlfriend in bed. Could it be that HJ had to look under the door, could see/reach only part of XP? Maybe felt her skin? Is it only assumed that he saw EC? EC may have been completely obscured by the bed, although I don't know how the bed was oriented in relation to the door.

Did HJ shoulder the door open and that's then how LE found it, making XK visible to LE from the hallway when that wasn't the case immediately for HJ? If moving the door, say, pushing it open, caused XK's body to move/fall, HJ would have seen a horror show, and IMO would account exactly for how he responded --

My sympathy, patience, understanding goes out to all of the survivors/responders. There is no end to the utter destruction BK and his extra sharp Xbar exacted that morning.

And he's pleased with himself.

God help us.

JMO

 

[Zinn]

Do we know what was visible from the hallway? Was the door closed, ajar?

NO ONE wants to barge in on a boyfriend and girlfriend in bed. Could it be that HJ has to look under the door, could see/reach only part of XP? Maybe felt her skin? Is it only assumed that he saw EC? EC may have been completely obscured by the bed, although I don't know how the bed was oriented in relation to the door?

Did HJ shoulder the door open and that's them how LE found it, making XK visible to them from the hallway when that wasn't the case immediately for HJ? If moving the door, say, pushing it open, caused XK's body to move/fall, HJ would have seen a horror show, and IMO would account exactly for how he responded --

My sympathy, patience, understanding goes out to all of the survivors/responders. There is no end to utter destruction BK and his extra sharp Xbar exacted that morning.

And he's pleased with himself.

God help us.

JMO

I think all we know is:

- EA somehow had the impression Xana was passed out.

- HJ can be heard calling out to Ethan and Xana in the background of the 911 call, so we can assume he did not know they were deceased at that point. We hear him after the dispatcher prompts DM/BF to check on Xana’s status so we can assume HJ was at/near Xana’s bedroom.

- HJ then seems to discover one or both victims and assesses at least Xana is not breathing. We know this because the dispatcher asked if she was breathing and he said no.

- The PCA indicated Xana’s body was seen by the officer when approaching the room, suggesting the door was at least partially open when he arrived.

It’s possible the door was open all along but it seems Xana’s condition was not obvious to HJ until some action or circumstance gave him greater context. I personally think it’s more likely the door was closed or ajar with Xana’s body blocking further entry. Otherwise, I think the person who initially assessed that Xana was passed out would have made closer contact with her prior to calling 911 or earlier into the 911 call. JMO.

If the door was initially closed or ajar but blocked, it could be HJ opened the door enough for Xana to be seen from the hallway or a paramedic might have opened the door more fully to assess the unconscious person (subject of 911 call) before the officer approached the bedroom.
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[girlhasnoname]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1902578247805567247

BK = A budding Serial Killer thinking he got away with it, especially considering that damning smug selfie with the thumbs up IMO.

He'd need to order another knife since he got rid of the one he used and of course left the sheath with his DNA on it. Such a win for the good guys. I do wonder where he disposed of the items? Did he pre-dig a hole somewhere? Thoughts?

Bye Bye Bry!

JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1902578247805567247

Wow.

 

[iamshadow21]

BK = A budding Serial Killer thinking he got away with it, especially considering that damning smug selfie with the thumbs up IMO.

He'd need to order another knife since he got rid of the one he used and of course left the sheath with his DNA on it. Such a win for the good guys. I do wonder where he disposed of the items? Did he pre-dig a hole somewhere? Thoughts?

Bye Bye Bry!

JMO

I think he threw the knife and other items into the Snake River on his scenic drive back to Pullman.

MOO

 

[QB2022]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1902492823397806105

He looks absolutely drained and washed out here, like he's just done an intense workout

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

BK was studying use of technology and electronic data to provide forensic evidence.
I find it beyond belief that he then made such pedestrian errors or stupid choices.
Not because I think he is innocent.
I think maybe he was driven by a compulsion and it could have been personal to one of the housemates and he escalated to a reckless state for some reason. Or maybe he'd gone from a heroin habit to something more like meth.

Or he's a complete moron who was not even hiding in plain sight prior this crime and it was surely obvious to everyone around him that he was a violent dominant abusive low intelligence man who was easily capable of extreme harm and probably using drugs. Hence the authorities in contact with him had put a stop to him being a part of their systems and institutions. Maybe the fact we were in lockdown and a lot of his initial studies would have been online only ?

 

[Cool Cats]

Really hoping there will be an end to the conspiracies now. It’s been obvious since the IGG gambit that AT was playing a shell game. Of course it’s the right of the defence to try to get evidence struck out pretrial but there needs to be an end to generating conspiracies that the defendant is somehow being framed here.

MOO

This is just the beginning.

Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger defense bombshell: I'm being framed by the real killer​

Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger finally reveals his defense

The 30-year-old criminology PhD student is facing the death penalty for the savage stabbing deaths of four students in Moscow , Idaho, on November 13 2022.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Bryan Kohberger plans to claim he was framed for the brutal murders of four University of Idaho students by the real killer who planted his DNA at the bloody crime scene, according to prosecutors.

According to prosecutors, the accused quadruple killer will not deny that his DNA was found at the scene of the murders.

‘The defense has not disclosed any experts to challenge the confirmatory STR comparison showing the DNA on the knife sheath matched Defendant’s DNA.

On the contrary, the defense has disclosed that its Forensic Biology and DNA expert will testify that “[t]here is good support that Mr. Kohberger’s DNA was found on Item 1.1, a swab from the knife sheath,”’ prosecutors wrote in the state’s ‘Response to defendant’s motion in limine Re: exclude IGG evidence.’

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

This is just the beginning.

Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger defense bombshell: I'm being framed by the real killer​

Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger finally reveals his defense

The 30-year-old criminology PhD student is facing the death penalty for the savage stabbing deaths of four students in Moscow , Idaho, on November 13 2022.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Bryan Kohberger plans to claim he was framed for the brutal murders of four University of Idaho students by the real killer who planted his DNA at the bloody crime scene, according to prosecutors.

According to prosecutors, the accused quadruple killer will not deny that his DNA was found at the scene of the murders.

But, he will claim the knife sheath was actually planted at the scene by the real killer, framing him for the shocking crime.

‘The defense has not disclosed any experts to challenge the confirmatory STR comparison showing the DNA on the knife sheath matched Defendant’s DNA. On the contrary, the defense has disclosed that its Forensic Biology and DNA expert will testify that “[t]here is good support that Mr. Kohberger’s DNA was found on Item 1.1, a swab from the knife sheath,”’ prosecutors wrote in the state’s ‘Response to defendant’s motion in limine Re: exclude IGG evidence.’

If BK was framed by the real killer then he needs to tell us all about the real killer and why that person has not been hunted down what with all the evidence he must have already supplied to detectives.

Or is he claiming a state / LE driven cover up involving multiple persons and agencies and him being framed?

 

[Cool Cats]

If BK was framed by the real killer then he needs to tell us all about the real killer and why that person has not been hunted down what with all the evidence he must have already supplied to detectives.

Or is he claiming a state / LE driven cover up involving multiple persons and agencies and him being framed?

Right. Trials must present evidence. It is not enough to say maybe "John or Jane Doe did it."

There needs to be evidence pointing in the direction of how DNA was planted on the sheath in the first place, then who had the means, opportunity and motive to plant this DNA under a victim in just about 20 minutes. And what other cars and phones and killer descriptions have been found?

2 Cents

 

[Vaderman]

The man had no friends....

It was a trophy pic...he probably planned to make an album someday...

I thought "trophy" immediately when I saw the picture as well.

 

[Rolypolyoly]

Delusional. It is. Like he thinks he completed his mission. Like he's a Marine after a successful exercise.

Disturbing.

JMO

ETA- I've just caught up and seen that @sassyblue and @Vaderman had the same idea!

I'm wondering if this is his version of a trophy. If he wasn't expecting to kill 4 people, maybe his plans went away and he didn't have time to take a trophy, so the next best thing, and also something that couldn't tie him directly to the murders like a physical trophy would, is this selfie that he could look at any time he felt the urge to relive that night.

 

[Boxer]

Do we think it's strange he has wet hair in the selfie at this time? Surely he would've showered first thing once he gets home, IMO...

2 showers in one morning?

Possibly his third shower already.

 

[bestill]

*Jump Scare Warning*

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I am late to be posting this from several pages back, which I haven't caught up on yet. I am wondering if his shirt is buttoned up because of bruising on his neck? If some the victims fought him like has been reported he could be trying to cover his wounds. This trophy selfie he took is so unflattering. He looks unwell.

 

[Boxer]

I'm wondering if this is his version of a trophy. If he wasn't expecting to kill 4 people, maybe his plans went away and he didn't have time to take a trophy, so the next best thing, and also something that couldn't tie him directly to the murders like a physical trophy would, is this selfie that he could look at any time he felt the urge to relive that night.

True. "Papa Rogers" profile expressed that an object was taken from the house.

 

[Miss Poovy]

I played with the exposure. His hand is a bit interesting, and there may be a mark on his forehead. Quality and lighting isn’t ideal though.

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Photo looks like a younger, slimmer Herman Munster.

 

[BUF]

I watched Banfield last night and she went through the correspondences with the two remaining roommates last night….from when DM went down to BF’s room and later the morning of the 13th. BF spoke to her father that morning also. They weren’t sleeping this whole time as originally thought. I couldn’t find the video of the show last night, but found the podcast where it’s being discussed.