4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #102

[MassGuy]

I’m way behind so forgive me for posting something that I’m sure has been posted 1000x already, which I’ll see when I catch up:

He looks so freaking SATIATED in the thumbs-up picture. I cannot bear it.

Satiated, satisfied, fulfilled.

Also proud, relaxed, relieved.

“Job well done,” I imagine he’s thinking to himself.

IMO he’s so pleased after all his planning that it went so “smoothly,” as far as he knew at the time.

This picture is after the murders, but before the morning when he took another ride to the murder scene. Probably wanting to relive it and bask in his “success.”

Before he knew he was the suspect.

He must have known by then that he’d left the sheath behind, but figured he’d gotten away with it and no one would know it was him. (Yay to DNA)!; Or possibly returned to the scene in hopes of finding the sheath?

If his intent was to kill just one, he looks very contented that he killed a “bonus” three more kids.

It’s really indisputable that BK is the murderer. The DNA (yay again DNA)! and the knife purchases really just end the last of anything the defense cares to say.

In my opinion, of course.

I had completely missed this, and was just going on what Kaylee's dad had to say about him buying Dickie's coveralls.

2. 1 Walmart receipt with one Dickies tag

So the knife purchase is undoubtably the most important, but dark coverall's that are now missing would make the case overwhelming. I'm just curious when he bought them, and there's no doubt video footage of this purchase (Walmart is the best for that).

Search warrant of Idaho murders suspect's Washington apartment, WSU office unsealed

The search warrant for Idaho murders suspect Brian Kohberger's Washington apartment and WSU office has been unsealed.

abc7.com

 

[Warwick7]

Do we know anything about the lighting in the house? Would there have been any lights on, would curtains be open, enough street lighting coming in? Could BK have had a torch?

On his forehead? Just guessing

 

[Zinn]

That's another thing about the photo that bugs me. Of all the places one could take a selfie inside an apartment, who the hell would stand in a bathroom, with an open shower as a backdrop, to take it. I keep wanting to think there is some significance to the location, but I cannot figure it out. Was he just saying, "look at me. I have washed all the evidence away. You'll never catch me now." JMO

He might have wanted to take it in a mirror and it was the only mirror in the apartment or the cleanest background.

 

[Warwick7]

I had completely missed this, and was just going on what Kaylee's dad had to say about him buying Dickie's coveralls.

2. 1 Walmart receipt with one Dickies tag

So the knife purchase is undoubtably the most important, but dark coverall's that are now missing would make the case overwhelming. I'm just curious when he bought them, and there's no doubt video footage of this purchase (Walmart is the best for that).

Search warrant of Idaho murders suspect's Washington apartment, WSU office unsealed

The search warrant for Idaho murders suspect Brian Kohberger's Washington apartment and WSU office has been unsealed.

abc7.com

It stuns me that he left a Walmart receipt, and the tag of a dickies. For someone who thought they were pulling off the perfect crime, these are stupid mistakes!

 

[girlhasnoname]

On his forehead? Just guessing

I also thought BK might have had some type of headlight on @Warwick7, but DM didn't mention seeing it as he made his exit. I guess he could have taken it off after the murders, IDK?

We know if he does indeed have VSS he could have trouble navigating in the dark (and he damn sure can't drive). There was ambient lighting with patio bulb lights, neon sign lights, and maybe a kitchen light left on?

JMO

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I've seen so many selfies taken in bathrooms that it makes my head spin. I THINK it's because there's a mirror in there to pose in front of. JMO on that.

Sometimes bathrooms have much brighter lighting than other areas and also yes, the mirror.
Now we can flip to front camera on most phones but there was a time that wasn't possible and maybe still not on basic models.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

My thoughts were his family possibly worried about him (ASD, far away, previous incidents?, etc.). He would not be your typical 27-year-old. I believe his mother was a teacher's aide, possibly used to working with special needs students.

Perhaps, it was a ritual to check in with the family on Sundays, send a selfie, show sort how BK was doing. Is this some sort of performance for the folks? Dressing, getting ready to go to mass, [BBM] etc. He may have been busy retracing his steps, checking why there wasn't anything on the news, completely off schedule, sending a reassuring photo to Mom and Dad. I do feel for them.

So many possibilities and, of course, all speculation, JMOO.

Go to Mass? Have I missed something? BK is a practicing Catholic?

 

[Warwick7]

Do we know anything about the lighting in the house? Would there have been any lights on, would curtains be open, enough street lighting coming in? Could BK have had a torch?

Or maybe one of those LED lights attached to the front of his coveralls.

 

[bestill]

Compare these two photos, whoa!

What a change in his appearance. Looks like being incarcerated works for him. If I were a juror I would wonder what was going on in his life when he took the selfie, he looks horrible...all jmo.

 

[Chloegirl]

Go to Mass? Have I missed something? BK is a practicing Catholic?

Bryan Kohberger's religious practices in jail revealed

It is referenced here.

Also, some of his mother's views are referenced in this article. Although I do believe it was talked about elsewhere that the family was Catholic.

Idaho murder suspect's mom slammed school shooters and death penalty

The mother of the suspect arrested in connection with the Idaho murders has written letters to to a local newspaper in which she speaks out against the death penalty, school shootings and abortion.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LetsSolvIt]

the thing I can't wrap my head around is that house is so rambling. How did he know how to get around in it? Or in real is it easier to find your way? The virtual diagram to me, if I were a juror, would be so confusing. All those levels stacked on top of each other.

He had to have cased that place out numerous times. It is possible he was inside of it as well??

Aren’t there interior photos online? I thought I remembered seeing them way back when. I think they were related to real estate marketing — either sales listing or for rental.

If I am remembering correctly, Mr. Super-Sleuth BJ probably researched the interior online. MOO.

ADDED: Here are photos — https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1122-King-Rd_Moscow_ID_83843_M94866-24207

If we found them why couldn’t BK?

 

[Boxer]

Do we know anything about the lighting in the house? Would there have been any lights on, would curtains be open, enough street lighting coming in? Could BK have had a torch?

there are at least two big "Good Times" neon signs, one in the living room wall and one on the third floor. Plenty of light.

 

[BUF]

Do we know anything about the lighting in the house? Would there have been any lights on, would curtains be open, enough street lighting coming in? Could BK have had a torch?

IIRC there was a neon “Good Vibes” sign that was always illuminated on the second floor giving off some light

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I've gone back and forth on this in my head, but settling on it being a shower curtain for several reasons.

1) I think I can see the top of the curtain here:
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2) At one point I wondered if it was sunshine though a window but I'm thinking that line would be straight, and it's curvy.

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3) The "grout lines" don't line up on what I think is a curtain.

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4) If they were grout lines and that's the corner of the shower, I'd think they'd be more angled something like this:

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5) Lastly... one of those "grout lines"/shower curtain folds looks convex to me, not concave:

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All just my amateurish opinion on shower curtains and grout.

Great snips & observations! In 3) & 4), it looks like a brand new white shower curtain to me, with horizontal folds or wrinkles shown in 5), where it was folded over in the package it just came out of, especially if it's vinyl, the fold lines are visible, IMO

 

[bestill]

It stuns me that he left a Walmart receipt, and the tag of a dickies. For someone who thought they were pulling off the perfect crime, these are stupid mistakes!

And Walmart strikes again for another criminal. I believe that Walmart has an arrangement with LE to preserve all CCTV from the store, someone should study what percentage of perps have shopped at Walmart before or after their crime. I'm betting it's close to 75%

 

[Boxer]

It stuns me that he left a Walmart receipt, and the tag of a dickies. For someone who thought they were pulling off the perfect crime, these are stupid mistakes!

If he is Papa Rogers, that profile was pretty adament that a white sedan was the most common car in the Americas, meaning the car was a needle in a haystack.
So maybe he thought he would just go home and that would be that.
It might have been 10 or 15 yeats earlier minus the DNA error -

 

[Warwick7]

Delusional. It is. Like he thinks he completed his mission. Like he's a Marine after a successful exercise.

Disturbing.

JMO

Remember when he was asked to enter a plea last year, BK stood silent, prompting a judge to enter a not-guilty plea on his behalf.

He refused to speak.

 

[Zinn]

IIRC there was a neon “Good Vibes” sign that was always illuminated on the second floor giving off some light

Yes, at least three light sources on the main floor. Cafe lights outside slider, strings of smaller lights in the kitchen in the area of the little table and stools, Good Vibes sign near DM’s room / living room. Top floor, Good Vibes sign in Kaylee’s room. I don’t know about Maddie’s and Xana’s rooms.

 

[Gemmie]

the thing I can't wrap my head around is that house is so rambling. How did he know how to get around in it? Or in real is it easier to find your way? The virtual diagram to me, if I were a juror, would be so confusing. All those levels stacked on top of each other.

He had to have cased that place out numerous times. It is possible he was inside of it as well??

That's my feeling. I think he snuck in during a party, beer in hand so not to look out of place, walked the floor plan a few times, or maybe just once up and down trying his darndest to memorize the lay of the land, and then left before people realized he didn't belong. Sure, I'm sure partygoers won't know 100% of attendees in large parties like they had, but he doesn't fit in age-wise. Also, we all know he's awkward so I can't imagine he'd be able to do small talk with a bunch of drunk/high college kids. He had to get out before he was noticed.

I've posted a partial blueprint of the 2nd floor upthread... so could he have obtained a copy of the blueprint/layout somehow since my source had it? Still, it's a confusing layout IMO so even if he did that I know I'd feel more comfortable if I had actually walked and seen it with my own eyes. Something tells me he did that.

I also wonder if anything was missing after he crashed a party. Like... a pair of undies, a comb, lipstick... something.

All JMO.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I just had a trophy thought.....could the ear buds be a physical trophy?...maybe he even got rid of them during his drive south but took a selfie of the trophy. IMO, XK could have been wearing some to not disturb EC if he was falling asleep? Typically a person just out of the shower with wet hair - well, the ear buds are out of place. I guess this is one of those things we will never know.

Great idea.

Also I just realised yes the ear buds are out of place and seem really odd in a bathroom.

Maybe he was taking the pic to give product feedback or buyer feedback after purchasing them. Maybe they're those ones that reduce noise or assist tinnitus etc? And ultimately the purpose is to show that all is regular in his world.

JMO