4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #102

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The 911 Call

The 911 callers do not reveal their names to the dispatcher and the dispatcher does not ask for them.
(snipped) You actually do hear DM say “hi, this is (D)” at about 1:20 in the call once she takes the phone back from the female neighbor. It doesn’t really matter either way but just saying since there was some confusion as to whether it was DM or BF speaking to 911 when the transcript was first released.
 
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Goncalves Family Statement:

As we continue to process the 911 call we just wanted to share some of our thoughts….

We stand together with all the victims of Idaho—both those we have lost and those who remain, forever marked by a tragedy that no passage of time will ever erase.

The 911 call? It is not the neatly rehearsed dialogue of a well-crafted story, not the polished performance you might expect from a Hollywood script.

No. It is raw. It is jagged. A searing, unvarnished truth that no camera could ever hope to capture. Every breath. Every cry. Every tremor in the voice reveals a reality so cruel, so brutally honest, it cuts deeper than anything fiction could devise.

After hearing that call, one thing is clear—H, with his quiet, stoic resolve, protected those girls from a nightmare that no one should ever be forced to witness. He stepped into the abyss, shielding them from horrors that will haunt him forever.

For that, the Goncalves family owes him a debt that words cannot repay.

If you were expecting a neat, cinematic conclusion—something palatable, something that offers closure—let me make this clear:
The real world does not operate on such terms. The terror of that night cannot be cleanly packaged, wrapped in a bow, or distilled into a simple, digestible narrative. It is ugly. It is painful. It is the kind of horror that shakes you to your deepest core. These were not adults. They were children, still clinging to the fragile threads of innocence when the world was violently torn from them in an instant.

In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.

So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.
The anger, the grief, the pain—they must all be focused on one thing. One person. The one who stole the innocence of Moscow that night, we demand justice and that cause is all that matters now.

 
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Goncalves Family Statement:

As we continue to process the 911 call we just wanted to share some of our thoughts….

We stand together with all the victims of Idaho—both those we have lost and those who remain, forever marked by a tragedy that no passage of time will ever erase.

The 911 call? It is not the neatly rehearsed dialogue of a well-crafted story, not the polished performance you might expect from a Hollywood script.

No. It is raw. It is jagged. A searing, unvarnished truth that no camera could ever hope to capture. Every breath. Every cry. Every tremor in the voice reveals a reality so cruel, so brutally honest, it cuts deeper than anything fiction could devise.

After hearing that call, one thing is clear—H, with his quiet, stoic resolve, protected those girls from a nightmare that no one should ever be forced to witness. He stepped into the abyss, shielding them from horrors that will haunt him forever.

For that, the Goncalves family owes him a debt that words cannot repay.

If you were expecting a neat, cinematic conclusion—something palatable, something that offers closure—let me make this clear:
The real world does not operate on such terms. The terror of that night cannot be cleanly packaged, wrapped in a bow, or distilled into a simple, digestible narrative. It is ugly. It is painful. It is the kind of horror that shakes you to your deepest core. These were not adults. They were children, still clinging to the fragile threads of innocence when the world was violently torn from them in an instant.

In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.

So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.
The anger, the grief, the pain—they must all be focused on one thing. One person. The one who stole the innocence of Moscow that night, we demand justice and that cause is all that matters now.

I really, really respect the way the Goncalves’ speak up so passionately for DM, BF, and now HJ. It’s very touching.
 
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Goncalves Family Statement:

As we continue to process the 911 call we just wanted to share some of our thoughts….

We stand together with all the victims of Idaho—both those we have lost and those who remain, forever marked by a tragedy that no passage of time will ever erase.

The 911 call? It is not the neatly rehearsed dialogue of a well-crafted story, not the polished performance you might expect from a Hollywood script.

No. It is raw. It is jagged. A searing, unvarnished truth that no camera could ever hope to capture. Every breath. Every cry. Every tremor in the voice reveals a reality so cruel, so brutally honest, it cuts deeper than anything fiction could devise.

After hearing that call, one thing is clear—H, with his quiet, stoic resolve, protected those girls from a nightmare that no one should ever be forced to witness. He stepped into the abyss, shielding them from horrors that will haunt him forever.

For that, the Goncalves family owes him a debt that words cannot repay.

If you were expecting a neat, cinematic conclusion—something palatable, something that offers closure—let me make this clear:
The real world does not operate on such terms. The terror of that night cannot be cleanly packaged, wrapped in a bow, or distilled into a simple, digestible narrative. It is ugly. It is painful. It is the kind of horror that shakes you to your deepest core. These were not adults. They were children, still clinging to the fragile threads of innocence when the world was violently torn from them in an instant.

In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.

So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.
The anger, the grief, the pain—they must all be focused on one thing. One person. The one who stole the innocence of Moscow that night, we demand justice and that cause is all that matters now.


Incredible statement from the Goncalves family.

Much respect.
 
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Goncalves Family Statement:

As we continue to process the 911 call we just wanted to share some of our thoughts….

We stand together with all the victims of Idaho—both those we have lost and those who remain, forever marked by a tragedy that no passage of time will ever erase.

The 911 call? It is not the neatly rehearsed dialogue of a well-crafted story, not the polished performance you might expect from a Hollywood script.

No. It is raw. It is jagged. A searing, unvarnished truth that no camera could ever hope to capture. Every breath. Every cry. Every tremor in the voice reveals a reality so cruel, so brutally honest, it cuts deeper than anything fiction could devise.

After hearing that call, one thing is clear—H, with his quiet, stoic resolve, protected those girls from a nightmare that no one should ever be forced to witness. He stepped into the abyss, shielding them from horrors that will haunt him forever.

For that, the Goncalves family owes him a debt that words cannot repay.

If you were expecting a neat, cinematic conclusion—something palatable, something that offers closure—let me make this clear:
The real world does not operate on such terms. The terror of that night cannot be cleanly packaged, wrapped in a bow, or distilled into a simple, digestible narrative. It is ugly. It is painful. It is the kind of horror that shakes you to your deepest core. These were not adults. They were children, still clinging to the fragile threads of innocence when the world was violently torn from them in an instant.

In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.

So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.
The anger, the grief, the pain—they must all be focused on one thing. One person. The one who stole the innocence of Moscow that night, we demand justice and that cause is all that matters now.

I hope this circulates here during trial
 
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Goncalves Family Statement:

As we continue to process the 911 call we just wanted to share some of our thoughts….

We stand together with all the victims of Idaho—both those we have lost and those who remain, forever marked by a tragedy that no passage of time will ever erase.

The 911 call? It is not the neatly rehearsed dialogue of a well-crafted story, not the polished performance you might expect from a Hollywood script.

No. It is raw. It is jagged. A searing, unvarnished truth that no camera could ever hope to capture. Every breath. Every cry. Every tremor in the voice reveals a reality so cruel, so brutally honest, it cuts deeper than anything fiction could devise.

After hearing that call, one thing is clear—H, with his quiet, stoic resolve, protected those girls from a nightmare that no one should ever be forced to witness. He stepped into the abyss, shielding them from horrors that will haunt him forever.

For that, the Goncalves family owes him a debt that words cannot repay.

If you were expecting a neat, cinematic conclusion—something palatable, something that offers closure—let me make this clear:
The real world does not operate on such terms. The terror of that night cannot be cleanly packaged, wrapped in a bow, or distilled into a simple, digestible narrative. It is ugly. It is painful. It is the kind of horror that shakes you to your deepest core. These were not adults. They were children, still clinging to the fragile threads of innocence when the world was violently torn from them in an instant.

In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.

So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.
The anger, the grief, the pain—they must all be focused on one thing. One person. The one who stole the innocence of Moscow that night, we demand justice and that cause is all that matters now.


From the above statement...

In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.

So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.

Wow, It is a shame that it takes the family of a murdered child to remind us what we all should know, but sometimes ignore, in our haste to judge other's actions or perceived inactions in a situation the likes of which, most of us will thankfully never have to cope with. They are exactly right. Despite whatever some think DM and/or BF should have, or could have done, and despite what some believe that they would have done, (I dare say no one knows what they would do in a never encountered situation until that situation arises), the four victims were clearly dead, or at the very least, beyond saving by the time the killer slipped out of the sliding glass door. Nothing or no one could have saved them. DM and BF will probably deal with some measure of survivor's guilt for the rest of their lives, and one or both will probably forever wonder if they could have prevented or changed anything, if only they had...

Their lives are almost surely still hell at times, right now, and things will likely only get worse for them as the trial date approaches. More than anything else right now, they need love, support, prayers and good vibes. What they do not need is judgement from people who have no idea at all what it must be like to stand in their shoes. JMO
 
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Two points. They are children. And nothing would have changed a thing.
 
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I listened to the 911 call and I agree with everything that's already been said. I also agree with the Kaylee's family. Nothing would have changed even if they had called at 4 am.

Only new thing I'll add is that dispatcher was something else. This is obviously the worst day of their lives and they're being repeatedly scolded for passing the phone. Cringe.

I hope all these kids have gotten the therapy they need.

MOO
 
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Goncalves Family Statement:

As we continue to process the 911 call we just wanted to share some of our thoughts….

We stand together with all the victims of Idaho—both those we have lost and those who remain, forever marked by a tragedy that no passage of time will ever erase.

The 911 call? It is not the neatly rehearsed dialogue of a well-crafted story, not the polished performance you might expect from a Hollywood script.

No. It is raw. It is jagged. A searing, unvarnished truth that no camera could ever hope to capture. Every breath. Every cry. Every tremor in the voice reveals a reality so cruel, so brutally honest, it cuts deeper than anything fiction could devise.

After hearing that call, one thing is clear—H, with his quiet, stoic resolve, protected those girls from a nightmare that no one should ever be forced to witness. He stepped into the abyss, shielding them from horrors that will haunt him forever.

For that, the Goncalves family owes him a debt that words cannot repay.

If you were expecting a neat, cinematic conclusion—something palatable, something that offers closure—let me make this clear:
The real world does not operate on such terms. The terror of that night cannot be cleanly packaged, wrapped in a bow, or distilled into a simple, digestible narrative. It is ugly. It is painful. It is the kind of horror that shakes you to your deepest core. These were not adults. They were children, still clinging to the fragile threads of innocence when the world was violently torn from them in an instant.

In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.

So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.
The anger, the grief, the pain—they must all be focused on one thing. One person. The one who stole the innocence of Moscow that night, we demand justice and that cause is all that matters now.


This was so heartbreakingly beautiful. Major respect for this.
 
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Goncalves Family Statement:

As we continue to process the 911 call we just wanted to share some of our thoughts….

We stand together with all the victims of Idaho—both those we have lost and those who remain, forever marked by a tragedy that no passage of time will ever erase.

The 911 call? It is not the neatly rehearsed dialogue of a well-crafted story, not the polished performance you might expect from a Hollywood script.

No. It is raw. It is jagged. A searing, unvarnished truth that no camera could ever hope to capture. Every breath. Every cry. Every tremor in the voice reveals a reality so cruel, so brutally honest, it cuts deeper than anything fiction could devise.

After hearing that call, one thing is clear—H, with his quiet, stoic resolve, protected those girls from a nightmare that no one should ever be forced to witness. He stepped into the abyss, shielding them from horrors that will haunt him forever.

For that, the Goncalves family owes him a debt that words cannot repay.

If you were expecting a neat, cinematic conclusion—something palatable, something that offers closure—let me make this clear:
The real world does not operate on such terms. The terror of that night cannot be cleanly packaged, wrapped in a bow, or distilled into a simple, digestible narrative. It is ugly. It is painful. It is the kind of horror that shakes you to your deepest core. These were not adults. They were children, still clinging to the fragile threads of innocence when the world was violently torn from them in an instant.

In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.

So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.
The anger, the grief, the pain—they must all be focused on one thing. One person. The one who stole the innocence of Moscow that night, we demand justice and that cause is all that matters now.

Wow!
Bam!!!
 
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You probably sussed it out. I'm on some sort of weird typo detecting run at present! In this instance " suspect video" appears to be a typo in the OP's post for "suspect vehicle". Jmo from the context. Also often abbreviated in posts to SV1 ( suspect vehicle 1 per the probable cause affidavit aka PCA).
Thank you!
 
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Did someone call H to the home? His get out, get out, get out was chilling.
The Goncalves statement was beautiful.
I really disliked the 911 operator. I know it’s a hard job but she was something else.
 
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From the above statement...

In closing let us face the uncomfortable truth: Had the 911 call been made the moment the accused left that house; it would not have saved anyone. Nothing would have changed.

So, we ask, respectfully—please, do not waste your energy pointing fingers at those who could not have prevented it.

Wow, It is a shame that it takes the family of a murdered child to remind us what we all should know, but sometimes ignore, in our haste to judge other's actions or perceived inactions in a situation the likes of which, most of us will thankfully never have to cope with. They are exactly right. Despite whatever some think DM and/or BF should have, or could have done, and despite what some believe that they would have done, (I dare say no one knows what they would do in a never encountered situation until that situation arises), the four victims were clearly dead, or at the very least, beyond saving by the time the killer slipped out of the sliding glass door. Nothing or no one could have saved them. DM and BF will probably deal with some measure of survivor's guilt for the rest of their lives, and one or both will probably forever wonder if they could have prevented or changed anything, if only they had...

Their lives are almost surely still hell at times, right now, and things will likely only get worse for them as the trial date approaches. More than anything else right now, they need love, support, prayers and good vibes. What they do not need is judgement from people who have no idea at all what it must be like to stand in their shoes. JMO
H? Did Ethan's brother find him? Did they fake the initials to hide that? Cancel that. I see there were two H's.
 
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Sadly there are differences that an immediate emergency call could / would have made.

A dying victim could have had their life saved, possibly.

The perpetrator could have been apprehended 'red handed' and in his crime evidence riddled vehicle and this whole court case would be a very different creature.

However, there is no reason to blame or shame or accuse the living victims of something they didn't do - they didn't wilfully fail to inform emergency services for nefarious reasons. They had no way of knowing the magnitude of what had happened and they were in their own form of victimization which could mean denial / shock / trauma responses and all manner of psychological issues.

JMO MOO
 
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Sadly there are differences that an immediate emergency call could / would have made.

A dying victim could have had their life saved, possibly.

The perpetrator could have been apprehended 'red handed' and in his crime evidence riddled vehicle and this whole court case would be a very different creature.

However, there is no reason to blame or shame or accuse the living victims of something they didn't do - they didn't wilfully fail to inform emergency services for nefarious reasons. They had no way of knowing the magnitude of what had happened and they were in their own form of victimization which could mean denial / shock / trauma responses and all manner of psychological issues.

JMO MOO
I don't think he left any of his victims alive. He went for their necks and throats deliberately because it quickly stops their breathing.

And I don't think he would have been apprehended red-handed, even if 911 was immediately called. He made a very hasty exit and would have been well on his way back home before they had a description of his vehicle. IMO
 
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I don't think he left any of his victims alive. He went for their necks and throats deliberately because it quickly stops their breathing.

And I don't think he would have been apprehended red-handed, even if 911 was immediately called. He made a very hasty exit and would have been well on his way back home before they had a description of his vehicle. IMO
I didn't think we knew location of injuries. Source?

MOO
 
  • #118
I didn't think we knew location of injuries. Source?

MOO
Nov 18 2022

“There were multiple stab wounds on them and most of them had just one that was the lethal stab wound. The fatal ones were to the chest area, the upper body area,” Mabbutt said.

 
  • #119
Nov 18 2022

“There were multiple stab wounds on them and most of them had just one that was the lethal stab wound. The fatal ones were to the chest area, the upper body area,” Mabbutt said.

Okay, thank you. So, chest, not neck.

MOO
 
  • #120
Did someone call H to the home? His get out, get out, get out was chilling.
The Goncalves statement was beautiful.
I really disliked the 911 operator. I know it’s a hard job but she was something else.
I agree. This dispatcher kept cutting them off when they tried to share extra details. If they are passing the phone, there is probably a reason for it.

I love the Goncalves family. <3
 
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