4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #103

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Warwick7 said:
Gray Hughes first suggest it was right behind the house. Later, by using the doc dump he changes it to being parked on the side then BK slips into the back sliding glass door.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1902483590212091940

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I agree with this. I think BK exited through the back sliding door and took a left. Looping around while simultaneously getting out of his clothing. Instead of jumping over the small retaining wall which would be on his right side he proceeded to the very end of the wall, in full view of BF's bedroom window, turned the corner and walked up to where his car was parked on the hill along the side of the house. JMO

I bet if things hadn't gone so chaotically (assuming he was just there for MM) then his plan was likely to to change his clothing at the car or somewhere behind the house (maybe he left a bag back there).
JMO.

IMO he saw DM. And the reason he didn't kill her was because he was in fight or flight mode already because things had gone so wrong. And now, here's a witness for all intents and purposes ,who likely heard (and maybe saw, BK wouldn't know) everything and called the police. It was fight or flight at that moment.

MOO
 
MassGuy said:
Here we go.

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D Reply to MIL bushy eyebrows

Wow. Talk about protesting too much.

AT says that allowing DM to testify to seeing "bushy eyebrows" is that she as DM saying BK is the person she saw.

Not that's not true!!! It's not the same. It's a detail she recalled. She hasn't even one, to my knowledge, identified BK as the man she saw!

Then AT goes hard at DM (footnote includes DM's liquid diet from the night before (no judgment but it's a wonder she didn't pass out). AT speaks at length about how DM's memory can't be trusted for all the alcohol.

So let me try to summarize her argument:

DM should not be allowed to say "bushy eyebrows", the State can't use photos of BK because it'll effectively ID BK -- and witness unreliability is a great contributor to false convictions....so even BK's own photo is an unreliable witness? Yeah, I say we let the jury be the judge of that.

JMO
 
MassGuy said:

He has an inability to assist with mitigation evidence and understand the magnitude of his case. By way of example, when he was arrested in his home, with a full swat team, doors broken, and parents zip tied, he made small talk with the detective in the back of the car during the ride to the police station. He asked the officer about his education and suggested that they get coffee at a later date. He did not perceive the profoundly serious nature of the moment and exhibited no perception of what was happening.
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Well, we saw the police bodycam footage of when he was pulled over by a state trooper on his cross-country drive home, and he appeared to be completely cognizant of the situation. He showed his license, he said they were on their way out to eat (or had already gone to a restaurant, I forget) and acted the way anyone would act if pulled over.

We also saw the bodycam of the female officer who explained that he wasn’t obeying the local traffic laws properly, and though he tried to explain that he’s used to Pennsylvania’s laws, he didn’t ask her to hang out with him.

I don’t believe anything that emanates from the mouths of his defense lawyers. They’ve already proven that they will say or do whatever to minimize BK’s perceived competence level.

IMO
 
MassGuy said:

He has an inability to assist with mitigation evidence and understand the magnitude of his case. By way of example, when he was arrested in his home, with a full swat team, doors broken, and parents zip tied, he made small talk with the detective in the back of the car during the ride to the police station. He asked the officer about his education and suggested that they get coffee at a later date. He did not perceive the profoundly serious nature of the moment and exhibited no perception of what was happening.
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If I could laugh react, I most definitely would!
 
Gemmie said:
Good, cuz he's gonna need that coffin completed, and soon.

JMO!
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my favorite part of this whole thing is when his lawyer says he can't get a speedy execution and having to wait for them to construct the shooting gallery etc..could take unspecified and unusual amounts of time ..cruel and unusual...and Judge just shot back, oh no..shouldn't take long, as I understand it they are. building it as we speak....LOLZ...mOO
 
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IzzyBlanche said:
RSFF

I don't know about the Knife Sheath Killer part, but I agree 100% that he wanted to be a serial killer. That picture to me isn't that much different from those where a hunter has a picture of their first buck. (It makes me sick just typing that but I hope you guys know what I am trying to say.)

Except he could hardly photograph himself with his "kills."
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Kabar Killer.
 
MassGuy said:
Here we go.

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D Response to Amazon clicks --

Here's their argument -- the way Amazon's AI works, if anyone ever purchased a thing even years ago, Amazon might pop it up as "people (who have purchased this) have also purchased". Even eight months later.

Well, that's a CURIOUS detail. 8 months????? Kbar knife/sheath was randomly popping up because of an 8 month old association? From March. 8 months later, November....

Never mind that 8 months later BK was IN NEED OF a new knife/sheath. So he wasn't searching for a replacement, Amazon was just tossing out friendly suggestions.

All righty then.

JMO
 

Half the time I forget to scroll down past the end of a filing to see the attachments. Glad I kept going this time....

Buried at the end of this one, between Certificates of Authenticity, receipts, etc....is a college assignment from a class at Desales (CJ 361 Forensic Investigation) of BK's titled "crime scene scenario final." Which is a detailed point by point listing of the proper step and protocol he would take as an officer/forensics officer at hypothetical murder of a woman in her trailer WITH A KNIFE (pages 34-45 of the above pdf).

Here's some bits that felt....oh....I don't know....relevant....

"Equipment I will have on hand for the investigation....

Protective clothing: boot covers, eyewear, fiber free overalls, face masks, hair nets, gowns, and anything that will prevent me from contaminating the scene with things I bring in with me. (pg 35)"

pg 36:

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MassGuy said:
Here we go.

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D Response to MIL Make and Model

D doesn't want the State's expert to identify two images as the same Elantra because, here's the argument, it's not continuous cctv.

As if there were all kinds of Elantras driving around RIGHT THERE.
 
MassGuy said:

He has an inability to assist with mitigation evidence and understand the magnitude of his case. By way of example, when he was arrested in his home, with a full swat team, doors broken, and parents zip tied, he made small talk with the detective in the back of the car during the ride to the police station. He asked the officer about his education and suggested that they get coffee at a later date. He did not perceive the profoundly serious nature of the moment and exhibited no perception of what was happening.
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Criminals often downplay the seriousness of the situation. Play it cool. No end of examples.

Megnut said:
D Response to MIL Make and Model

D doesn't want the State's expert to identify two images as the same Elantra because, here's the argument, it's not continuous cctv.
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Unless he was driving around with a GoPro, it doesn't count.
 
MassGuy said:

He has an inability to assist with mitigation evidence and understand the magnitude of his case. By way of example, when he was arrested in his home, with a full swat team, doors broken, and parents zip tied, he made small talk with the detective in the back of the car during the ride to the police station. He asked the officer about his education and suggested that they get coffee at a later date. He did not perceive the profoundly serious nature of the moment and exhibited no perception of what was happening.
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AT doesn't know her client. "Inability to assist with... and understand the magnitude of..." is not the same as "unwillingness to assist with... and acknowledge the magnitude of."

And "did not perceive the profoundly serious nature ... and exhibited no perception of..." is not the same as "believed he had the capacity to baloney his way around the profoundly serious nature...and exhibited the strength of that belief in his behavior with the Defense team."

One gets the sense that BK had lots of early training in BS'ing to avoid consequences for his behaviors before those around him began questioning his trustworthiness and willingness to accept responsibility. It's like that traffic stop in Moscow. The officer repeatedly told him what law he broke but he just kept trying to talk his way out of the ticket. Twice, he claimed victimhood to absolve himself of responsibility in just that one encounter with the law: first, he claimed a car ahead of him acted differently than the driver had signaled, and second, he claimed that he was from Pennsylvania where they don't have crosswalks like that particular intersection did.
 
Megnut said:
D Reply to MIL bushy eyebrows

Wow. Talk about protesting too much.

AT says that allowing DM to testify to seeing "bushy eyebrows" is that she as DM saying BK is the person she saw.

Not that's not true!!! It's not the same. It's a detail she recalled. She hasn't even one, to my knowledge, identified BK as the man she saw!

Then AT goes hard at DM (footnote includes DM's liquid diet from the night before (no judgment but it's a wonder she didn't pass out). AT speaks at length about how DM's memory can't be trusted for all the alcohol.

So let me try to summarize her argument:

DM should not be allowed to say "bushy eyebrows", the State can't use photos of BK because it'll effectively ID BK -- and witness unreliability is a great contributor to false convictions....so even BK's own photo is an unreliable witness? Yeah, I say we let the jury be the judge of that.

JMO
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The witness is not allowed testify about the observation she made to the police months before an arrest?

MOO
AT is arguing that crimes should not be prosecuted, because juries draw conclusions from evidence.
 
Also from the self authentication of records filing:

pg 23 ATT COULD NOT provide Timing Advance Records for BK DESPITE the defense claiming the FBI had it but had not used in phone location mapping and hadn't provided it in discovery
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pg 56 TMobile did provide Timing Advance Records for 2 people
pg 63 BK's car had 115,000 miles on it on Nov 18, 2022
 
MassGuy said:
Here we go.

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D Reply to Motion to Strike, ASD

Oh, the pain of a catch 22. Using BK's diagnoses/conditions as mitigating factors opens the discussion to the State, to use the same findings as aggravating factors.

So she wanna use them but she wants the State notta. Double standard.

JMO
 
MassGuy said:

He has an inability to assist with mitigation evidence and understand the magnitude of his case. By way of example, when he was arrested in his home, with a full swat team, doors broken, and parents zip tied, he made small talk with the detective in the back of the car during the ride to the police station. He asked the officer about his education and suggested that they get coffee at a later date. He did not perceive the profoundly serious nature of the moment and exhibited no perception of what was happening.
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Yet he was studying for his PhD and capable of living many hundreds of miles away
 
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