4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #106

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As for Xana, I have such a hard time processing that he probably did see the door dash guy. I mean, wouldn't it register in your beany brain that someone is getting that food, that means someone is up, that means not everyone is in bed passed out. 🥴
I think he only saw the vehicle, hence all the u-turns and three-point turns to see where it was going. He left the neighborhood at 3:56 iirc on account of the DD vehicle, made a quick loop, returning at 4:04. He must have decided to his satisfaction that the DD car was at a different house or somehow neither a threat nor a deterrent. You'd think, if he had an normal wits about him, he'd have aborted. Too many variables.

Pardon the phrase but there will be a reason why that house, that night, that hour, it was do or die.

JMO
 
Yes, these were not plausible reasons to offer in court and like you say, they also make her appear not so stellar. They could even end up being appellate issues in the future?!

The other thing that annoys me about AT offering up micro-managing/non delegating as a reason for allegedly not being able to get through discovery, is that it's a moot point, right,?

She can't blame the state because of her alleged decision to not delegate the work load but instead insist on seeing everything herself. Her management decisions on the case are on her. Jmo

She has the nerve to complain specifically about how the State has access to a discovery processing program that even supposedly has AI summarization and captioning of videos/audio....but if she says that she and only she can go through all the discovery herself, why would we think that she would even make use of such a program?
 
She has the nerve to complain specifically about how the State has access to a discovery processing program that even supposedly has AI summarization and captioning of videos/audio....but if she says that she and only she can go through all the discovery herself, why would we think that she would even make use of such a program?
And if I'm understanding Hippler's order correctly, that isn't true anyway. The State, whaddaya know, took the time and appear to have had common sense enough to create a spread sheet.
 
And if I'm understanding Hippler's order correctly, that isn't true anyway. The State, whaddaya know, took the time and appear to have had common sense enough to create a spread sheet.

Yup. All I had to do was go to the Prosecutor by Karpel website in order to see what functions it has. No transcription. It is compatible with another service/product (don't know if that product is by the same parent company or not) that does have automatic transcription of video/audio, but you have to already have that other product in order for that to happen. 2 minutes of Googling, and I found those very basic facts out. Surely she could had a clerk look that up for her.
 
It was 320 pages!! You can't expect her or her team to go through ALL of that, geez, whatever was the State thinking??

Clearly she needs an index to the index.
The 320 page thing, geez, that’s nothing. When they start talking terabytes I might listen. It’s also scary that she prefers to single handedly review discovery, and take on another case, where I would imagine her same thought process applies. How can you blame that on anyone else, when you refuse to delegate or trust any other member of your team? It was a poor excuse.
 
Yup. All I had to do was go to the Prosecutor by Karpel website in order to see what functions it has. No transcription. It is compatible with another service/product (don't know if that product is by the same parent company or not) that does have automatic transcription of video/audio, but you have to already have that other product in order for that to happen. 2 minutes of Googling, and I found those very basic facts out. Surely she could had a clerk look that up for her.
Nah, she'd need to do that for herself. She can't trust nobody for nothin'.
 
Someone should compile a list of Judge Hippler's best witticisms and one-liners. This is my absolute new favorite, wrestling the top spot away from "It's not a bad act to buy things on Amazon". That is a book that I would buy. JMO
"And Twice on Sundays" has a nice ring to it as title for such a book
 
I think if he had written something like that we would have caught wind of it in some of these court filings. The defense fought to have BK's "Securing a Crime Scene" paper excluded from evidence and they would have done the same for anything he had written for Ramsland's class if was to be introduced as evidence by the prosection.

MOO

Geez, you’re right so who knows why she would or could be called to testify
 
LOL no, just a little levity.

I truly admire him, but all I know about him is this:


I don’t know his age, marital status or much about him, except that IMO he has steered the proceedings in the most excellent way.

ETA: the fact that he also presides over the Ada County Mental Health Court program may perhaps give him some insight into when a suspect is declared incompetent to stand trial, as AT has repeatedly asserted regarding BK.

I love humor - can't live without it - so I can't believe I fell for your joke. I literally thought you were being serious that you are the judge's fiance!

And yes, the other issue used to try to get the DP dropped is that BK has autism.

There are also all the typical motions that are pretty much always filed in DP cases. That the DP is unconstitutional, firing squads are cruel and unusual, etc........

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I always thought one of many jobs of a judge is marrying people.

He can marry all of us. All d' single ladies.

Every day and twice on Sunday.

JMO

I’m willing to be part of a Hippler Harem, if need be. Though I’m old now, so one of you others may have to do the “every day and twice on Sundays” part. ;)
I love humor - can't live without it - so I can't believe I fell for your joke. I literally thought you were being serious that you are the judge's fiance!

@Cool Cats This actually gave me a good laugh, when in my private life I do actually need one right now, so thank you!
 
The 320 page thing, geez, that’s nothing. When they start talking terabytes I might listen. It’s also scary that she prefers to single handedly review discovery, and take on another case, where I would imagine her same thought process applies. How can you blame that on anyone else, when you refuse to delegate or trust any other member of your team? It was a poor excuse.

MOO

There is NO WAY AT doesn't know what's in Discovery.

There is NO WAY AT doesn't have her own spreadsheet.

There is NO WAY she hasn't utilized team members to sift through the less necessary stuff.

But what AT NEEDS is the appearance of overload and at the State's hand.

We've all heard that lawyer oath -- pound the evidence, pound the investigation, pound the investigators, pound the table.

AT has added some.

Pound the planets. Pound the adjectives. Pound sand.

And pound discovery, though she hasn't invented this one. Whine about it. Too much, not enough, incomplete, too complete, blame the State for somehow burying your defendant's perfect alibi in irrelevant terabytes somewhere. As if it's their job to do it. As if there's actually an alibi there. When we all know there isn't.

And the best part of all of this -- if BK had an alibi, AT wouldn't have to go in search of it, wouldn't have to pretend-boast she has partial corroboration as if she's waiting on the last little push pin to prove he was somewhere else. He wasn't and she can't.

Even if someone else left BK's DNA under MM, how in heaven's name did they get BK's weapon, build, brybrows, vehicle? And how did they get his vehicle if he was also out driving in it? It's quite absurd. We know it. She knows it.

Judge Hippler knows it.

He has been quite patient, willing to hear her out on any number of motions, but he also telegraphs well, giving her reminders when she strays to the fence line of professional ethics. He sounds polite when he says it, "as an officer of the court" but no one -- most of all AT -- doesn't hear the SMACK in that.

At the racetrack, that would be a yellow flag, with the red one wound up, ready to SNAP.

Her expert's affidavit went too far, and I'll bet they are fast rewriting their strategy. It's one thing to give a defendant his rigorous due, but selling out, that's a bridge too far and they have been warned. She may have to abandon Sy Ray altogether because it'll be a really bad look to continue to claim LE has withheld data (which doesn't exist and wouldn't help her if it did) in violation of the Constitution, BK's rights, mom, baseball and apple pie in a conspiracy that implicates the State and LE, across multiple agencies. A conspiracy that also makes no sense.

JMO
 
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I’m willing to be part of a Hippler Harem, if need be. Though I’m old now, so one of you others may have to do the “every day and twice on Sundays” part. ;)


@Cool Cats This actually gave me a good laugh, when in my private life I do actually need one right now, so thank you!
Oh my goodness! I needed this laugh today! We have heard and discussed some of the most horrid things the last few days. This levity is a nice reprieve...
😅🤣😆😂
 
MOO

There is NO WAY AT doesn't know what's in Discovery.

There is NO WAY AT doesn't have her own spreadsheet.

There is NO WAY she hasn't utilized team members to sift through the less necessary stuff.

But what AT NEEDS is the appearance of overload and at the State's hand.

We've all heard that lawyer oath -- pound the evidence, pound the investigation, pound the investigators, pound the table.

AT has added some.

Pound the planets. Pound the adjectives. Pound sand.

And pound discovery, though she hasn't invented this one. Whine about it. Too much, not enough, incomplete, too complete, blame the State for somehow burying your defendant's perfect alibi in irrelevant terabytes somewhere. As if it's their job to do it. As if there's actually an alibi there. When we all know there isn't.

And the best part of all of this -- if BK had an alibi, AT wouldn't have to go in search of it, wouldn't have to pretend-boast she has partial corroboration as if she's waiting on the last little push pin to prove he was somewhere else. He wasn't and she can't.

Even if someone else left BK's DNA under MM, how in heaven's name did they get BK's weapon, build, brybrows, vehicle? And how did they get his vehicle if he was also out driving in it? It's quite absurd. We know it. She knows it.

Judge Hippler knows it.

He has been quite patient, willing to hear her out on any number of motions, but he also telegraph well, giving her reminders when she strays to the fence line of professional ethics. He sounds polite when he says it, "as an officer of the court" but no one -- most of all AT -- doesn't hear the SMACK in that.

At the racetrack, thst would be a yellow flag, with the red one wound up, ready to SNAP.

Her expert's affidavit went too far, and I'll bet they are fast rewriting their strategy. It's one thing to give a defendant his rigorous due, but selling out, that's a bridge too far and they have been warned. She may have to abandon Sy Ray altogether because it'll be a really bad look to continue to claim LE has withheld data (which doesn't exist and wouldn't help her if it did) in violation of the Constitution, BK's rights, mom, baseball and apple pie in a conspiracy that implicates the State and LE, across multiple agencies. A conspiracy that also makes no sense.

JMO
Wow, please excuse me while I pick up the mic that just dropped to the floor.

I couldn’t agree more, as usual so very well stated @Megnut,
thank you! ;)

IMHOO
 
MOO

There is NO WAY AT doesn't know what's in Discovery.

There is NO WAY AT doesn't have her own spreadsheet.

There is NO WAY she hasn't utilized team members to sift through the less necessary stuff.

But what AT NEEDS is the appearance of overload and at the State's hand.

We've all heard that lawyer oath -- pound the evidence, pound the investigation, pound the investigators, pound the table.

AT has added some.

Pound the planets. Pound the adjectives. Pound sand.

And pound discovery, though she hasn't invented this one. Whine about it. Too much, not enough, incomplete, too complete, blame the State for somehow burying your defendant's perfect alibi in irrelevant terabytes somewhere. As if it's their job to do it. As if there's actually an alibi there. When we all know there isn't.

And the best part of all of this -- if BK had an alibi, AT wouldn't have to go in search of it, wouldn't have to pretend-boast she has partial corroboration as if she's waiting on the last little push pin to prove he was somewhere else. He wasn't and she can't.

Even if someone else left BK's DNA under MM, how in heaven's name did they get BK's weapon, build, brybrows, vehicle? And how did they get his vehicle if he was also out driving in it? It's quite absurd. We know it. She knows it.

Judge Hippler knows it.

He has been quite patient, willing to hear her out on any number of motions, but he also telegraphs well, giving her reminders when she strays to the fence line of professional ethics. He sounds polite when he says it, "as an officer of the court" but no one -- most of all AT -- doesn't hear the SMACK in that.

At the racetrack, that would be a yellow flag, with the red one wound up, ready to SNAP.

Her expert's affidavit went too far, and I'll bet they are fast rewriting their strategy. It's one thing to give a defendant his rigorous due, but selling out, that's a bridge too far and they have been warned. She may have to abandon Sy Ray altogether because it'll be a really bad look to continue to claim LE has withheld data (which doesn't exist and wouldn't help her if it did) in violation of the Constitution, BK's rights, mom, baseball and apple pie in a conspiracy that implicates the State and LE, across multiple agencies. A conspiracy that also makes no sense.

JMO
Wow @Megnut I love how you think. I want to be you when I grow up. I ☺️
 
And if I'm understanding Hippler's order correctly, that isn't true anyway. The State, whaddaya know, took the time and appear to have had common sense enough to create a spread sheet.
By now, most here could draw a makeshift map of the route her client took to the house as well as each visit he paid within. She needs a spreadsheet?

Apparently SHE didn’t smell into what she was steppin’.

Reeks of a pre-planned last ditch effort of an appeal on the grounds of ineffective council…..

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MOO
 
I love humor - can't live without it - so I can't believe I fell for your joke. I literally thought you were being serious that you are the judge's fiance!

And yes, the other issue used to try to get the DP dropped is that BK has autism.

There are also all the typical motions that are pretty much always filed in DP cases. That the DP is unconstitutional, firing squads are cruel and unusual, etc........

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