4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #107

[Arkay]

Yup ... requires GPA of 3.87 to qualify for PhD at some universities ... that's 97%. It was an A paper according to the instructor.

I’ll have to muster up some respect for a fellow educator, and one who taught at the college level, which I did not.

I suppose the requirements for Criminology are very different from those in the English department and Education department, for which I’ve written theses in both disciplines.

However, I still find it irksome. I see only a checklist, with no original thought, with poor phrasing and not an ounce of fresh insight.

I’m retired now so I’ll have to force myself not to care about the grades given to a stranger, but I’d have given this a D. There is no actual essay, and what is the thesis statement? “I’ll do this, then I’ll do that?” I presume the thesis is along the lines of securing a crime scene, but all in bullet points?

Perhaps this was actually just his outline, and we haven’t seen the essay?

Oh right, I’m training myself not to care…occupational hazard after 25 years of grading essays

JMO

 

[cckp72]

Was there any connection whatsoever between Bryan K and Brett K? I remember reading all the theories about Brett (RIP) way back but I can't recall if there was.
That would be the only way imo, that Bryan's DNA got on the sheath if they were buddies or something. And showing off each others knives.
This is a a hell of a stretch and I think it's disgusting that the defence is going to try to use a deceased veteran with mental health issues to try to get the real killer off. I understand they have a job to do, but this is a new low.

 

[Kudzuu]

Coveralls with pockets

Found this on Amazon. Back pockets and a TOOL POCKET.

Maybe BK wore something like this and put the sheath in the pocket.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

*Senior Investigative reporter for Criminally Obsessed Anne Emerson, KOMO News Senior Reporter Chris Daniels, and expert criminologist Jeffrey Ian Ross speak in this documentary from The National News Desk ahead of Kohberger’s trial.

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

1. Had it in his hand, put it down in order to free up his hand.
2. Left it behind as a signature, thought he'd cleaned it.
3. Fell out of his pocket.
4. Fashioned a belt of some sort which gave way.

JMO

I've thought of those reasons, too. I would order my thoughts as 2, 4, 1 and 3. I wish we knew what clothes he was wearing and if he had like a painters or tactical pocket on those most likely Dickies clothes he had on purchased at WalMart...

 

[girlhasnoname]

From the April 2025 hearing, It's at the beginning when Anne is talking. I'm not sure what part of the April hearing this is from.

Thanks for that.

AT says "they received a tip that might point to alternate suspect(s) and they're trying to work that as fast as possible".

Yes, I'd think that should be the main focus for all the Defense Investigators.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I'm re-watching GH's synchronization of video, PCA and his own re-enactment and it's eerie every time.

I wonder if there were obstacles each time he approached. Lights on at 1122, lights on in nearby apartments, homes, pedestrians. As we know, DD. Maybe he was looping, looking for optimal conditions, as opposed to psyching himself up.

I think he was already psyched up, from the moment he left his apartment. Psychopathy.

It's so disturbing that there are predators like BK, prowling in the shadows while people think they're safe in their homes.

23m

GH makes a great observation -- BK is aware of the door dash vehicle and changes his approach, the three-point turns, and that's when his vehicle's absent front license plate was captured! Critical detail!

I hope that the DD Driver was aware of BK and his white Elantra as well.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I have nothing to back this up, totally anecdotal. I could be totally off base.

My children were finishing high school and starting college during the height of COVID. Many course requirements were relaxed, and lots of As were given for effort. Neither of my kids even had to take the SAT.

It makes me wonder if BK, the smartest guy in the room, was able to get where he was pre-murder due to the general relaxation of academic standards at the time. Would that paper be an A now, or 10 years ago?

Moo

Agree, it's a C paper at best IMO. BK is not as smart as he portrayed himself to be (119 IQ) and fellow students describe him more as an over-talker and sharer, rather than a genius. Big ego Bry.

It's evident to me from his writings and the miserable fail of the murder scene.

JMO

 

[browneyes]

Any thoughts on why it’s believed MM was the primary and lone targeted victim? Just thought I may have missed something.

BTW, if anyone goes through my google history, I will be labeled a sick weirdo.

 

[SteveP]

I hope that the DD Driver was aware of BK and his white Elantra as well.

...and wouldn't it be great if he not only saw the Elantra, but also got at least a glimpse of the driver.

 

[SteveP]

Any thoughts on why it’s believed MM was the primary and lone targeted victim? Just thought I may have missed something.

BTW, if anyone goes through my google history, I will be labeled a sick weirdo.

I think that is probably true of most of us who follow these crimes for a while!

 

[Arkay]

Was there any connection whatsoever between Bryan K and Brett K? I remember reading all the theories about Brett (RIP) way back but I can't recall if there was.
That would be the only way imo, that Bryan's DNA got on the sheath if they were buddies or something. And showing off each others knives.
This is a a hell of a stretch and I think it's disgusting that the defence is going to try to use a deceased veteran with mental health issues to try to get the real killer off. I understand they have a job to do, but this is a new low.

I’m only on WS, where unlike social media, everything has to pass scrutiny as legitimate, so I am completely ignorant about Brett and just learning about this.

This seems to be the Hail Mary-est of Hail Marys.

At the very last hearing before trial, AT has a tip on an alternate suspect?

Or instead perhaps, at the very last hearing before trial, did she attempt to throw a spanner into the works?

She’s had two years to pursue tips on alleged alternate suspects. Did this dead man leave his DNA on the sheath beneath Maddie? Because Bryan did, and that is indisputable.


IMO

 

[concernedcitizen706]

I was thinking some more about somebody yelling around 4:00 a.m., "Somebody's here".

What are the circumstances where you would yell into a house with possibly sleeping roommates at night, that somebody's here? If you thought somebody was there, you would probably assume it was a guest of one of your roommates coming over late night. If you saw the back door open you would think dang, my roommates were born in a barn or something.

Or if went into the kitchen and you saw the back door open and you thought it was a little bit suspicious, you wouldn't just yell, somebody's here. You might look around a little bit to see what's going on first, before yelling out. You would look into the living room and the kitchen, maybe poke your head down the hallway, look at the staircases a little bit. You might text your roommates to ask if anybody came over.

So this is my theory on what I think happened.

I think xana was sitting there in the kitchen or the living room after 4:00 a.m. scrolling tick tock and eating her food.

And Bryan opened the back door and walked right past her and went upstairs.

And she may be caught a glimpse of him as he went upstairs. And that's why she yelled, somebody's here.

Bryan went upstairs and got right to work. The murders upstairs probably took him like a minute. Then xana heard the noises upstairs. Xana went upstairs to look. And then she came running back down.

I think that's how bold Bryan was.

I'm wondering if he set up a phone and internet jammer before he went in. That would give him more confidence.

Edit- I looked at the house plan again and I see if xana is sitting on the couches in the living room, she cannot really see into the kitchen because the couches are on the far right wall. Facing towards the front of the house. But maybe she heard the back door open.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I think that is probably true of most of us who follow these crimes for a while!

I have already forewarned family members...

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

@otto

Why wouldn't BK have the shelf on his belt? Am I missing something like he had no belt or it was covered? I understand the knife was sharp and needed to be sheathed. It just seems reckless to carry a sheathed knife in his hand.

Unless he expected Maddie to be asleep and alone.

Ok, now just hear me out. If BK was truly wanting to be a Ted Bundy understudy, and channeling TB in his early days of committing crimes (at least ones he would 'admit' to), I have thought in an alternative theory that MM was his main obsession, and what BK would assume and expect as his main target.

Perhaps he went into the house with the knife armed with the intent to SA poor MM, using the knife as a tool to scare his intended victim and to keep her silent. Not only would the knife be effective in that sense, but it may have been a very arousing and phallic enhancement to BK.

However, when he got there he did not expect to encounter KG also in bed with MM and immediately became unhinged and quite angry lighting the fuse for the stabbing frenzy he then started. Plus the savage and just as deadly beating to the knife attacks he inflicted on KG makes me wonder.

I got to thinking about this scenario after hearing about the "POOR - NO" searches he was making about subjects that were sleeping or restrained in some type of manner. Plus, if he was following Bundy's early MOs--Karen Sparks Epley--TB did beat and assault her with roommates in the house; it has been further theorized one of Karen's male roommates disturbed Bundy in the active throws of the attack, but scared TB enough to get the hell out of Dodge. However, he also SA'd this victim, splitting her bladder amongst other injuries associated with SA.

With Linda Ann Healy she also had roommates, but TB was able to bludgeon her, change her clothes, disguise the bed she was in and finally abscond with the victim.

 

[concernedcitizen706]

I’m only on WS, where unlike social media, everything has to pass scrutiny as legitimate, so I am completely ignorant about Brett and just learning about this.

This seems to be the Hail Mary-est of Hail Marys.

At the very last hearing before trial, AT has a tip on an alternate suspect?

Or, perhaps, at the very last hearing before trial, did she attempt to throw a spanner into the works?

She’s had two years to pursue tips on alleged alternate suspects. Did this dead man leave his DNA on the sheath beneath Maddie? Because Bryan did, and that is indisputable.


IMO

I would imagine they knew the whole time they were going to bring him up but they brought him up at the last moment because they wanted to see what else they can get to work before they brought up the other suspect.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I would imagine they knew the whole time they were going to bring him up but they brought him up at the last moment because they wanted to see what else they can get to work before they brought up the other suspect.

Very possible, especially after their telematics 'expert' Sy Young was basically shunned before the trial even started. I don't think he was even allowed to testify at the last hearings before this recent one.

That goes hand in hand with AT's April potential suspect tip timeline.

JMO

 

[Teche]

I’ll have to muster up some respect for a fellow educator, and one who taught at the college level, which I did not.

I suppose the requirements for Criminology are very different from those in the English department and Education department, for which I’ve written theses in both disciplines.

However, I still find it irksome. I see only a checklist, with no original thought, with poor phrasing and not an ounce of fresh insight.

I’m retired now so I’ll have to force myself not to care about the grades given to a stranger, but I’d have given this a D. There is no actual essay, and what is the thesis statement? “I’ll do this, then I’ll do that?” I presume the thesis is along the lines of securing a crime scene, but all in bullet points?

Perhaps this was actually just his outline, and we haven’t seen the essay?

Oh right, I’m training myself not to care…occupational hazard after 25 years of grading essays

JMO

Guess BryBrows didn’t review his cheat sheet before committing the horrific murders.

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

Agree, it's a C paper at best IMO. BK is not as smart as he portrayed himself to be (119 IQ) and fellow students describe him more as an over-talker and sharer, rather than a genius. Big ego Bry.

It's evident to me from his writings and the miserable fail of the murder scene.

JMO

It was a 300-level course, I originally thought it was like a 200-level "Criminal Law and Procedure" type course where either a checklist or outline of all steps were required; also looks like it might have been open book.

I agree as well with some of the posters indicating that Bry Baby did not undertake his Masters in Crim in the brick-and-mortar sense, but was online and at the height of COVID, obviously letting him slip through the cracks and avoid a DeSales Bryan Tally, unlike the in-person WSU PhD cohort and undergrads he was supposed to be their TA, all of them experiencing everything that made Bry Baby the extra special treat of a peer or teacher he certainly was.

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

Guess BryBrows didn’t review his cheat sheet before committing the horrific murders.

Well, 1122 King Road wasn't a pretend trailer court with 62 trailers that BK wanted to make sure were all searched, so bless his heart he wasn't prepared for what he stepped into. What a complete dips$it!!