4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #107

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Could he have been asked not to discuss BK’s visits? I also seem to remember a smoke shop? employee stating that the girls had stated they had a stalker. I think I watched an interview. Then there was the juggler, I wonder if anyone who was part of the case in the beginning will resurface at trial. How many surprises will there be?

Also their friend who walked them home as far as the street food stand then ensured they got in a taxi, wasn't he making sure they were safe, as if it were implied there was some sort of an issue?
JMO MOO

 

[Boxer]

Why would anyone claim to know that Kohberger is guilty, and that his motive was to impress some third party?

The murders were sloppy, messy, and pointless. No one is impressed.

Kind of slanderous too.
As in she had anything to do with this crime.

Mr. Maybe delivers infinite motives.

Maybe he was getting back at the administrators that removed him from LE track.

Maybe he actually hated his supportive parents for making him weak by fighting his battles for him.

Maybe he latched to being a villian in horror movie because his sister got a part in a slasher movie.

Maybe he was just wanted to be like the subjects he read about in criminology.

 

[fcavanaugh]

Thanks. That's true it makes Brent the victim, but if Brian says otherwise, how are they going to prove otherwise? It's reasonable doubt. I guess they have DMs account of the suspect with Brian's body type. Plus they have Brian's DNA on the sheath.

OK so just because BK “says” this is what happened doesn’t mean it’s going to make it into the trial for the jury to even consider as reasonable doubt (see below for explanation). By the way, this applys to any alternative perpetrator(s) the D name and good luck to them whether/if they name the deceased veteran BK, or any other person the combined LE task force has already examined and cleared/ruled out.

At any rate, the fact is per Judge Hippler’s order, AT must provide something more substantive than ‘my client says this is what happened’ and baseless allegations against an alternative perp to the court by this Friday, May 23rd. And be prepared to argue for its admissibility before the court/Judge at a hearing set in early June. Judge Hippler will then enter his ruling on it aka decides if it will be allowed in as admissible evidence for trial.
If Judge H rules as admissible, imo BK will have to take the stand to explain what happened which opens him up to cross examination by the state and oh my geeee or as we say around here in New England, woahhhh Nellie!!, I’d love a front row seat to see that!

Further, AT can claim she got the lead/tip from the state’s discovery but I’d also imagine she’d have been told early on by her client ‘this is what happened’ and so why has she waited over 2 years to present it to the court?!?! I really think this is all a smokescreen and last ditch effort by the D at the 11th hour, and that the so called lead/tip on alternative perpetrator scenario(s) is coming from SM/Youtube internet crank speculation/conspiracy r/t a name(s) that is/are already in the state’s discovery as having been looked at/examined and ruled out long ago by LE task force, and imo the Judge isn’t stupid, knows about and on to all the conspiracy nutter stuff being spewed and regurgitated across the interwebs.

I’m pretty sure if my hunch is correct, and AT submits conspiracy manufactured non-evidence and argues before the court for its admissibility, she is not only going to look foolish, she will lose aka Judge will issue ruling against as not admissible for trial and that will be the end of it as far as the court is concerned. But I’m sure it won’t stop the unscrupulous SM/internet cranks from continuing to spew conspiracies and blame, shame and defame innocent victims and other innocent people on the periphery of the case, sadly and unfortunately.

IMHOO

ETA-clarification

 

[Boxer]

Also their friend who walked them home as far as the street food stand then ensured they got in a taxi, wasn't he making sure they were safe, as if it were implied there was some sort of an issue?
JMO MOO

Walking the inebriated girls to food truck and a greek operated ride pretty normal and kind.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Walking the inebriated girls to food truck and a greek operated ride pretty normal and kind.

Oh, well yes, that's true! Not because there was a known threat but because he's a decent person.

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/15/us/bryan-kohberger-idaho-student-killings



And here is Jens Söring now:

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Source: Jens Soering: German diplomat's son arrives home from US after 33 years in jail for double murder

Gag.

 

[PinkParis2052]

But it's never been reported beyond that one People magazine article, every other publication was just repeating what People had said.

And the restaurant manager was fast to deny it.

Restaurant where two Idaho murders victims worked denies Bryan Kohberger rumours

Jackie Fischer, owner of the Mad Creek, slammed a report that claimed Mr Kohberger had eaten at the restaurant twice in the weeks leading up to the murders

www.independent.co.uk

The restaurant has been closed for a while now, and yet no one else, not even the original 'source', has come forward to claim they remember him for their fifteen minutes and their pay day from the Mail, etc?

I think it's more likely he was never there.

MOO

I agree, I don't think that Bryan was ever at that restaurant. Even when Brian Entin looked into that story he said that he was never able to get 100% confirmation that Bryan had been to that restaurant so he never ran that story.

and the guy who wrote that store for people no longer works at People and has been gone from People Magazine for awhile now.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I would have thought seeing someone would put him off, it meant a variety of things but also meant that people were up, about, and active. Wouldn't it thwart his plan? Maybe be more likely that he didn't see the DD at all?

I was assuming he saw the DD driver (not knowing it was DD) in the vicinity, not at the house. So he looped around again thinking he'd wait for the car to park, leave, drop off, pick up whatever and did not know DD was there.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Also their friend who walked them home as far as the street food stand then ensured they got in a taxi, wasn't he making sure they were safe, as if it were implied there was some sort of an issue?
JMO MOO

Back to my assumptions, being drunk is rather an issue to getting home safely. That was why I thought he was making sure they made it to their ride ok.

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

Absolutely! If one watches some older YouTubes of Gray Hughes', he will show what he believes to be the long drive BK made, when he had his phone turned off. He did the drive himself, I think along with his son. BK drove miles out his way, really rural areas, not all farmland, just land not used for anything. No chance of being dug up for crops. Only problem would be getting his car off the road while he dug.

Yep! That's always been the question for me, getting out of the car to dig and not having anywhere to really obscure the car. Also, it's dark out there and that night was overcast, so walking in the dark on strange terrain would pose a problem.

There's an interview with Ted Bundy, I think him talking about taking the Rancort girl from Central WA University, where he had surges of panic after taking and killing victims and him throwing out the crutches, briefcase, etc., whatever props he may have used in a kidnapping. Perhaps Bry Baby had full intention of keeping the knife after the murders but did panic after he realized he left the sheath behind and had to rid himself of it in some way.

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

Who is SleuthieGoosie?

Sounds like a real winner cavorting with the enemy sending tips to AT. Whatever.

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

I wish I could unsee the picture of the ka-bar knife extending beyond the width of the woman’s waist.

I remember gasping when I saw a Marine vet YouTuber slowly pick up his own Ka-bar from his desk and lay it in his large hands close to the camera. The knife was so much bigger than I ever imagined.

But seeing the photo of the woman and knife really brought it home.

Is that Scott R.?

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Back when Bryan was arrested there was only like 13 death penalty certified public defenders in the Idaho that could be lead counsel and Anne was one of those 13 people. In addition she is the only that is assigned to the northern Idaho area. I heard that Elissa is very involved with the alternative suspects situations based on the April 2025 hearing. We'll see how this pays out.

Who is Elissa?

 

[Ghostwheel]

Yep! That's always been the question for me, getting out of the car to dig and not having anywhere to really obscure the car. Also, it's dark out there and that night was overcast, so walking in the dark on strange terrain would pose a problem.

There's an interview with Ted Bundy, I think him talking about taking the Rancort girl from Central WA University, where he had surges of panic after taking and killing victims and him throwing out the crutches, briefcase, etc., whatever props he may have used in a kidnapping. Perhaps Bry Baby had full intention of keeping the knife after the murders but did panic after he realized he left the sheath behind and had to rid himself of it in some way

Jumping off this post, there are plenty of offshoot roads out there, plenty of places to pull over off the main highway. Not that I am convinced one way or another of if he buried or hid anything, just that there were lots of places to do so where he might not have been noticed. There is,, for example, a storage facility that direction just outside of Moscow proper. Dumpster there would have been a great place to drop his bloodied stuff, if it was accessible. Google shows one long driveway with a trash can out. That would have been a place to dump if it had been out that day.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1923951789725925767

 

[PinkParis2052]

Who is Elissa?

I meant to type - Elisa Masoth sorry, Bryan's lawyer.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Oh, now that you mentioned it---I remember hearing that speculation a long time ago, that Bryan was actually going to the King house a lot to buy drugs. And he just happened that night to meet up with his dealer, who drove there with him and told him to wait for him in the car about 4 am that morning-----then came out and got a ride home---only to realise his dealer stole his knife and sheath and planted it there.

I never heard this version here though, that makes Brent K the dealer and the killer. Very inventive but also ridiculous and will never be admissible as there is no credible evidence. imo

Yeah, like also wouldn’t the FBI come out and admit he was working for them?

 

[PinkParis2052]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1923951789725925767

back in the April 2025 hearing the Elisa from the defense team talked about it.

the video will start where Elisa Massoth talks about the alternative suspects.

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

Jumping off this post, there are plenty of offshoot roads out there, plenty of places to pull over off the main highway. Not that I am convinced one way or another of if he buried or hid anything, just that there were lots of places to do so where he might not have been noticed. There is,, for example, a storage facility that direction just outside of Moscow proper. Dumpster there would have been a great place to drop his bloodied stuff, if it was accessible. Google shows one long driveway with a trash can out. That would have been a place to dump if it had been out that day.

Maybe... For the sake of a civil debate and constructive conversation, is there video at or around the storage facility? Are you meaning the one near the trailer court and nursing home facility? If he would have dumped or hidden in a location we are not aware of, I wonder then what prompted his journey to the LC Valley and his time spent near the Snake in Clarkston and going to a bunch of different stores in that area.

 

[DisplacedDivaofthe6C]

Could he have been asked not to discuss BK’s visits? I also seem to remember a smoke shop? employee stating that the girls had stated they had a stalker. I think I watched an interview. Then there was the juggler, I wonder if anyone who was part of the case in the beginning will resurface at trial. How many surprises will there be?

Right?

I think it was a vape shop in Moscow where the girls had told an employee there about the stalker issue.

The pot shop is just right on the WA/ID border on the WA side on the main highway between Pullman and Moscow - if I recall there was video of BK's auto on that dark and lonely strip of highway at that time of the morning.