4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #108

[MassGuy]

I’m not on Facebook / SM.. Can you explain what “mass reporting” means? Why would it be taken down for that?

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May 25, 2025

Mass reported? Do you know if it was a coordinated effort?

It would be pretty coincidental if the recent closed hearing attended by the Goncalves attorney and the Goncalves FB account being taken down were not related. IMO

I wonder how different the FB account is now that it has returned.

I believed the same, that they took it down themselves based on the timing. I have since learned it was a coordinated effort though. I imagine they appealed and Facebook reinstated it.

• MassGuy

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I’m sorry, but don’t understand all this. Would you mind indulging me with a deeper explanation?

If lots of people click the report button and select an option like “violent, hateful or disturbing content,” Facebook will take the page down, at least temporarily.

People on social media were encouraging people to do this, and it worked.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Chris Watts killed his pregnant wife and unborn son, as well as his two little daughter, whom he squeezed into the opening of two oil tanks to hide their bodies. And this waste of human flesh has fans.

Exactly—fans, who actually blame his murdered wife for what he did!

And now the cynical YouTuber who is Watts’ biggest supporter is repeating the whole charade with Kohberger. She blames the murdered victims, blames the surviving victims (especially Dylan)—anyone other than poor maligned Bryan Kohberger.

 

[Tricia]

I’ve already shared both links.

Please share them again..
Thank you,
Tricia

 

[helenann2k]

One of the things that bothers me most about this case is how the defendant is treated as if he were so special. Look at what he is accused of doing! Look at the EVIDENCE against him! Special?

He was raised by all accounts by two loving parents, blessed with intelligence, repeatedly given second chances.

And when he commits the most heinous of crimes, only the very BEST public defender for him!

“Your honor, Bryan is innocent.”

Motion after motion after motion.

And such a devoted following on Reddit and Facebook, YouTube, and TikTok!

Because he’s so special.

No wonder he’s a narcissist.

Re-watch this footage, of the defendant lying his way out of a ticket, playing the rube—so polite and curious and soft-spoken as he manipulates the female officer:

And then think about what he did to Xana, Ethan, Kaylee and Maddie just one month later.

“It’s ok. I’m going to help you.”

This man is NOT special.

We all know exactly what he is.

Sorry, I respectfully disagree. In the U.S. we have a constitution that guarantees due process, and the person on trial must be treated as innocent until proven in a court of law. (The public can of course make their own opinions without the same limits, but we have to officially treat defendants as if innocent.) I believe he is 100% guilty, but for the sake of the rule of law, the system cannot pass judgement and interpret the evidence until trial. IMO. MOO.

 

[Arkay]

Sorry, I respectfully disagree. In the U.S. we have a constitution that guarantees due process, and the person on trial must be treated as innocent until proven in a court of law. (The public can of course make their own opinions without the same limits, but we have to officially treat defendants as if innocent.) I believe he is 100% guilty, but for the sake of the rule of law, the system cannot pass judgement and interpret the evidence until trial. IMO. MOO.

It’s absolutely true that our U.S. Constitution grants due process, and that someone on trial is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

We have more flexibility here, as we are on a discussion board and definitely NOT in a court of law.

The rules at WS are appropriately strict, and we cannot discuss someone’s guilt unless and until a suspect is named by LE.

I don’t agree, also respectfully, that we on a discussion board have to “officially treat defendants as if innocent.” Your next sentence proves why——we here at WS are not, in fact, the system to which you allude. We are not charged with finding him actually guilty or innocent——that will be the jury, and the jury alone.

Here, we are just chatting.

IMO

 

[fcavanaugh]

Sorry, I respectfully disagree. In the U.S. we have a constitution that guarantees due process, and the person on trial must be treated as innocent until proven in a court of law. (The public can of course make their own opinions without the same limits, but we have to officially treat defendants as if innocent.) I believe he is 100% guilty, but for the sake of the rule of law, the system cannot pass judgement and interpret the evidence until trial. IMO. MOO.

Yes goes without saying, accused are presumed innocent in court of law per the U.S. constitution’s 6th amendment.
But, but, but this isn’t a court of law and imo most people here are pretty astute make reasonable, logical inferences based on known facts and evidence. Stating the obvious, most who’ve followed the case closely and made up their mind wouldn’t qualify to sit on the Jury.

Having said that, imo most are here/following the case for very important reason- pulling/rooting for these four precious, beautiful souls and their families every day and twice on Sunday, to receive the justice they rightfully deserve.

As far as I’m concerned, they can take the DP off the table and sentence BK to LWOP++++
to infinity and beyond never to be heard from again till he’s carried out of prison in a pine box. Whatever it takes to get this case adjudicated asap and give the families’ sense of peace/closure, let’s go!
the families’ have waited long enough!

#JusticeforKaylee,Maddie,Xana,Ethan

IMHOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Thank you for your service:

 

[jepop]

AT is not doing herself any favors. From the ridiculous alibi that took months to come up with, the newly diagnosis of autism and now an alternative suspect who remains nameless. Grasping at straws and all BS in my opinion.

Amen to all that!

Though, I just want to note and ICBW, but I believe AT has not infact come up with an Alibi defense which aligns with ICR statute. I'm pretty sure she was working to a deadline for that too, after years long ambiguous assertions (beginning in May or June 2023) that the defense would be presenting an alibi via witness testimony. From recall of the MIL hearings in April this year, Judge Hippler set her a deadline to produce the witnesses alluded to and agreed with the state that to date the defense has never, not once, produced/claimed any alibi for where BK claims to have at the time of the crime (let's call it 3.30am to 4.20am which is when SV1 is first recorded in the King Road neighbourhood to when it is recorded leaving the scene at speed). To the contrary the defense's so called notice of alibi (see July 2023 and April 2024 court docs) is just an ambiguous mixture of future promises and obfuscation imo.

If a continuance is granted, it looks to me like it will be before the defense has complied with either of Hippler's deadlines for alibi or an appropriate alternative perp proffer. Jmo

 

[girlhasnoname]

Amen to all that!

Though, I just want to note and ICBW, but I believe AT has not infact come up with an Alibi defense which aligns with ICR statute. I'm pretty sure she was working to a deadline for that too, after years long ambiguous assertions (beginning in May or June 2023) that the defense would be presenting an alibi via witness testimony. From recall of the MIL hearings in April this year, Judge Hippler set her a deadline to produce the witnesses alluded to and agreed with the state that to date the defense has never, not once, produced/claimed any alibi for where BK claims to have at the time of the crime (let's call it 3.30am to 4.20am which is when SV1 is first recorded in the King Road neighbourhood to when it is recorded leaving the scene at speed). To the contrary the defense's so called notice of alibi (see July 2023 and April 2024 court docs) is just an ambiguous mixture of future promises and obfuscation imo.

If a continuance is granted, it looks to me like it will be before the defense has complied with either of Hippler's deadlines for alibi or an appropriate alternative perp proffer. Jmo

But, but AT is just sooooo busy...she just can't do it all by herself. But she could take on another DP trial client. WTH?

That royally ticked off Judge Hammerhead Hippler, and rightly so.

MOO

 

[SteveP]

Yesterday, May 25, was Maddie Mogen's 24th birthday, and the second annual Maddie May Day, a day set aside by family members to encourage people to honor her memory by doing random acts of kindness, in her name.

Only light can overcome darkness. May the light that was Maddie Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin, continue to burn brightly, and may it light the way to justice!.

Family transforms grief into good deeds: Second annual 'Maddie May Day'

The day is held on what was Madison Mogen's birthday, and encourages random acts of kindness in her memory.

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[PunishThenForgive]

Yesterday, May 25, was Maddie Mogen's 24th birthday, and the second annual Maddie May Day, a day set aside by family members to encourage people to honor her memory by doing random acts of kindness, in her name.

Only light can overcome darkness. May the light that was Maddie Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin, continue to burn brightly, and may it light the path to justice!.

Family transforms grief into good deeds: Second annual 'Maddie May Day'

The day is held on what was Madison Mogen's birthday, and encourages random acts of kindness in her memory.

www.ktvb.com

Thank you for your act of kindness in sharing this with us today, @SteveP, for reminding us that goodness and light do persist, even after tragedy.

Happy Memorial Day everyone, and happy belated birthday, sweet Maddie May.

 

[otto]

I've been trying to connect the dots between Kohberger searching and drugged or sleeping, Bundy's first abduction and murder, and those instances where Bundy began the assault by hitting his victims in the head.

If Kohberger wanted to imitate Bundy, his first criminal activity would have been assaulting a woman in her bed, possibly leaving blood evidence, and taking her to an isolated location. Searching sleeping or drugged sexual assault may be the best search-engine imitation of a woman who is debilitated via head injury. Any search of hitting a woman in the head prior to assault would probably trigger red flags.

Although I haven't read details or seen autopsy, I have read upthread that Kaylee experienced blunt force assault in addition to stabbing. There has been a suggestion from Kaylee's family that she was injured more violently than the other 3 victims.

Blunt force injury is consistent with Bundy's first victim where she was injured, debilitated, and alive during abduction. I'm stil curious whether this was Kohberger's original intent, and whether that is the reason that the evidence leak is concerning for the prosecution.

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"In late September, records from the criminology student’s phone and in possession of law enforcement included an internet search for “Sociopathic Traits in College Student,” and the following month, there was a search for containing keywords “drugged” and “sleeping.”​

Searches and selfies: Idaho college murder suspect Bryan Kohberger's online habits emerge in new details

Digital materials and documents obtained by "Dateline" track the suspect's movements before and after four University of Idaho students were killed in 2022.

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[minazoe]

my feeling is that if he had seen Dylan sleeping he would have killed her, but because she was awake and standing there the police could have been well on their way and he could be busted. mOO

 

[Bahshudc]

my feeling is that if he had seen Dylan sleeping he would have killed her, but because she was awake and standing there the police could have been well on their way and he could be busted. mOO

I agree, and I do think he saw DM (I see a lot of people who argue that he didn't). I recall in a recent doc she says to investigators in an interview "That's how I knew he saw me, because of his eyebrows" (paraphrasing). DM seems to think BK saw her and knew she was standing there.

 

[Maat99]

I agree, and I do think he saw DM (I see a lot of people who argue that he didn't). I recall in a recent doc she says to investigators in an interview "That's how I knew he saw me, because of his eyebrows" (paraphrasing). DM seems to think BK saw her and knew she was standing there.

I also agree and the biggest issue for him IMO, he became aware of DM the moment he saw her, but he had no way to know when she became aware of him - that instant, 2 minutes ago, or 8 minutes ago. So he couldn’t waste any more time. He may not have even been sure if XK had a chance to alert someone before he killed her.

 

[Boxer]

I agree, and I do think he saw DM (I see a lot of people who argue that he didn't). I recall in a recent doc she says to investigators in an interview "That's how I knew he saw me, because of his eyebrows" (paraphrasing). DM seems to think BK saw her and knew she was standing there.

More time more people, I think he cut his losses and left.

 

[otto]

my feeling is that if he had seen Dylan sleeping he would have killed her, but because she was awake and standing there the police could have been well on their way and he could be busted. mOO

Regarding Bundy, it's possible that Kohberger wanted to imitate his first murder, but also possible that he wanted to imitate the final sorority house murders ... even though (presumably) he had no personal experience with murder.

The sorority house murders did not involve or drugging, but they did involve sleeping. They were injured with a blunt force object.

This is interesting. In one of the sorority house murders, he walked past several private first-floor room and went upstairs. He committed several murders on the second floor. He is seen by a witness as he runs out of the house. That's very similar to Kohberger.

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[PunishThenForgive]

Did Bryan Kohberger wish to copy Ted Bundy, or did he wish to best him? What if the only idol in BK’s mind is himself?

He could have murdered at home in Pennsylvania, or at school in Washington, but no, he chose to murder in Idaho, the only state of the three where he could receive the death penalty.

By committing such a brutal act, he knew Idaho would seek the death penalty. How could they not?

By committing such a brutal act, he knew he would be infamous. The press would be all over it, social media abuzz.

Perhaps he knew, too, that AT—the only death-qualified public defender in Northern Idaho—would be assigned to defend him. Did he relish forcing her, a blonde woman, to do so?

Now all eyes are on BK. Just where he likes them. Just where he deserves for them to be, in his eyes.

May the bright light of justice snap BK out of this delusion, as it finally did to Ted Bundy.

IMOO

 

[Arkay]

More time more people, I think he cut his losses and left.

Same.

I tend to think he was in some weird mental zone by then, but of course I don’t really know.

Whether he registered her presence or not, I agree that in his mind, it was time to escape.

JMO

 

[PunishThenForgive]

I also agree and the biggest issue for him IMO, he became aware of DM the moment he saw her, but he had no way to know when she became aware of him - that instant, 2 minutes ago, or 8 minutes ago. So he couldn’t waste any more time. He may not have even been sure if XK had a chance to alert someone before he killed her.

Yes, Xana likely had her phone in her hands when she saw BK—TikTok. If Dateline is right, did she drop her phone as she fled downstairs in terror? Is that how police know she was there?

(Speculation)