4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #99

[arielilane]

And to add here, the glove was found DAYS later. After PD scoured the area.

MOO

In August 2023 at Motion to Compel Hearing X 3. So like 18 months ago. Imo

The only difference was this is the first time a ref to the DNA being extracted from blood. I guess some in the public are assuming 'bloody glove!!!' perhaps, when for all we know (and this seems highly likely to me) the blood we're talking about is likely in a minute quantity and the DNA sample extracted ambiguous and partial. We know from Aug 2023 that whatever profile the lab managed to make, which was probably imo just unknown male and few if any other markers/loci, this sample and the other from rail inside house were ineligible for upload to CODIS. Jmo

Appreciate the responses. Though, it was my own sarcasm in reference to the double-murder trial of OJ Simpson; ie bloody glove in that trial.

 

[jepop]

Appreciate the responses. Though, it was my own sarcasm in reference to the double-murder trial of OJ Simpson; ie bloody glove in that trial.

Oh, like duh! See where you coming from, haha and there I go providing a literal answer.

 

[arielilane]

Oh, like duh! See where you coming from, haha and there I go providing a literal answer.

No problem.

Everybody wants in on the news. Just this morning Daily Mail posted an article that the attorneys for BK have revealed explosive new evidence they hope will see the accused killer set free.

Imo, the only place BK is walking is from jail to prison.

 

[Chimera]

Explosive new DNA evidence that could see Bryan Kohberger walk free

Murder suspect Bryan Kohberger's defense attorneys made a stunning claim in court that threatens to upend the prosecution against him for the murders of four students.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The criminology student's lawyers claimed blood from an unknown man was found on a handrail in the victims' home and another's DNA was found on a glove outside.

There was a party there earlier.
All it would take was someone with a minor bloody nose and another person who dropped a glove.
My bet is that they didn't test the dna of all the males at the party -- but that said males have solid alibis.
This article can thus be taken with the proverbial grain, aka slow news day ?
Still believe LE have the right man in custody.
Omo.

 

[Chimera]

No problem.

Everybody wants in on the news. Just this morning Daily Mail posted an article that the attorneys for BK have revealed explosive new evidence they hope will see the accused killer set free.

Imo, the only place BK is walking is from jail to prison.

Yes, just posted the link.
And, ITA about what BK will be looking forward to !
Imo.

 

[jepop]

No problem.

Everybody wants in on the news. Just this morning Daily Mail posted an article that the attorneys for BK have revealed explosive new evidence they hope will see the accused killer set free.

Imo, the only place BK is walking is from jail to prison.

It's odd because in terms of the news cycles these days, the DNA/ blood on the glove is old news ie almost three weeks ago Jan 23,/24. The flipping Daily M, really,? Three weeks after the fact ( putting aside their ridiculously sensational headline,), they're only revealing this "...explosive new evidence" to their readers now?. Bit slow on the uptake there, Daily M.

 

[Nila Aella]

It's odd because in terms of the news cycles these days, the DNA/ blood on the glove is old news ie almost three weeks ago Jan 23,/24. The flipping Daily M, really,? Three weeks after the fact ( putting aside their ridiculously sensational headline,), they're only revealing this "...explosive new evidence" to their readers now?. Bit slow on the uptake there, Daily M.

How about SeattleT, Newsweek, FN?
JMO

 

[jepop]

How about SeattleT, Newsweek, FN?
JMO

Wouldn't know, I don't read about the case in the media generally. If it's relevant or whatever I suppose you might post some.links if you like.

 

[Nila Aella]

Wouldn't know, I don't read about the case in the media generally. If it's relevant or whatever I suppose you might post some.links if you like.

They all have stories out today.
Not just the DM.
JMO

 

[NCWatcher]

blood and print evidence from a party house..a super well known party house does not provide reasonable doubt and does not negate the facts. The prosecution will prove their case with or without this extra evidence. mOO

You could be right. However, I'm not at all sure the State will want to emphasize in court that the rental house was a "super well known party house" with lots of people unknown to the house residents passing through at all hours, particularly on weekends. (And many of those partying people likely were under the influence of all kinds of substances.) If nothing else, victim blaming does happen. Saying it shouldn't is fine & dandy but that doesn't stop people from thinking that way even at a pre-conscious level. There are reasons it happens, after all. (e.g. Just World hypothesis, facilitation of a [false] view of one's own safety, and so on.) I know people have posted on WS that it's "normal" for college students to get drunk all the time (re: the surviving roommate saying she was drunk that night and wasn't really sure what she saw.) People on the jury might not share that view of normality so the less said about constant house parties the better IMO.
MOO

 

[MassGuy]

It's odd because in terms of the news cycles these days, the DNA/ blood on the glove is old news ie almost three weeks ago Jan 23,/24. The flipping Daily M, really,? Three weeks after the fact ( putting aside their ridiculously sensational headline,), they're only revealing this "...explosive new evidence" to their readers now?. Bit slow on the uptake there, Daily M.

This article was an aggregation of the Idaho Statesman article from yesterday. They took it, added their own sensational headline, and sprinkled in old reporting.

The Statesman's timing was weird, because this should have been written immediately following the hearing a couple weeks ago.

 

[CKS]

Explosive new DNA evidence that could see Bryan Kohberger walk free

Murder suspect Bryan Kohberger's defense attorneys made a stunning claim in court that threatens to upend the prosecution against him for the murders of four students.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The criminology student's lawyers claimed blood from an unknown man was found on a handrail in the victims' home and another's DNA was found on a glove outside.

There was a party there earlier.
All it would take was someone with a minor bloody nose and another person who dropped a glove.
My bet is that they didn't test the dna of all the males at the party -- but that said males have solid alibis.
This article can thus be taken with the proverbial grain, aka slow news day ?
Still believe LE have the right man in custody.
Omo.

All MOO

If the blood on the handrail was the only one then okay maybe I'd agree with you. But the glove with blood on it plus the handrail blood is a huge red flag for me personally.

2 cents

 

[jepop]

They all have stories out today.
Not just the DM.
JMO

So larger Msm outlets by the sound of it., I can't comment on what I haven't read or isn't posted here. If they have similar headlines as DM then I'd comment. I understand that often one outlet will post a story and then others just use that for their own stories. Don't know if that's the case here. But three weeks after the fact, I guess they're all behind the eight ball. Jmo

 

[jepop]

This article was an aggregation of the Idaho Statesman article from yesterday. They took it, added their own sensational headline, and sprinkled in old reporting.

The Statesman's timing was weird, because this should have been written immediately following the hearing a couple weeks ago.

Thanks for giving the context. I wonder why the Statesman was so late reporting. That makes sense now why all the larger outlets are falling over themselves to report.

 

[MassGuy]

All MOO

If the blood on the handrail was the only one then okay maybe I'd agree with you. But the glove with blood on it plus the handrail blood is a huge red flag for me personally.

2 cents

This is just wild to me. They have the killer's DNA on the sheath, and then there's dubious other evidence that at best, shows the Kohberger had help; none of it is remotely exculpatory.

Why were they able to get a full profile from the sheath? Because it was fresh and hadn't degraded yet.

Why were they not able to get a full profile from that blood on the railing and glove? Because it must have been old and degraded. Also, there is zero evidence the killer cut himself, as there should be a hell of a lot more than simply on a railing.

Everything here screams one man, and they almost certainly would have found evidence to that effect (other killers) by now.

 

[Nila Aella]

All MOO

If the blood on the handrail was the only one then okay maybe I'd agree with you. But the glove with blood on it plus the handrail blood is a huge red flag for me personally.

2 cents

Me too.
And they were able to determine it was not Bks blood.
There had to be some type of testing done.
JMO

 

[MassGuy]

Me too.
And they were able to determine it was not Bks blood.
There had to be some type of testing done.
JMO

Of course, and we know this from the fact they couldn't upload it to CODIS.

There the same issue in the Morphew case, where they were able to determine the sex of the contributor, but very little else. The Berreth case as well, where they found a human tooth but DNA testing could only determine it was female.

 

[Nila Aella]

Of course, and we know this from the fact they couldn't upload it to CODIS.

There the same issue in the Morphew case, where they were able to determine the sex of the contributor, but very little else. The Berreth case as well, where they found a human tooth but DNA testing could only determine it was female.

I heard this in the hearing

1:38:04
there if the Magistrate Judge had been told there's unknown male bee in blood
in the house attached to the handrail that might have made more of a difference to her, maybe a sheath that can be carried to the house and blood in the house that's not the same maybe that matters

There are two different male unknown blood samples. Plus a sample C, location unknown.

JMO

 

[MassGuy]

I heard this in the hearing

1:38:04
there if the Magistrate Judge had been told there's unknown male bee in blood
in the house attached to the handrail that might have made more of a difference to her, maybe a sheath that can be carried to the house and blood in the house that's not the same maybe that matters

There are two different male unknown blood samples. Plus a sample C, location unknown.

JMO

It collapses the second you hear the context (the inability to even upload something to CODIS that one would absolutely expect to have that capability).

Even if those were high quality samples, and they weren't mentioned, it does nothing to negate the probable cause for Kohberger based on the the sheath DNA.

Because the car fit, the movement and timing of that car fit, and the cell phone data corroborated It (to include inexplicably going dark during the murder window).

 

[arielilane]

Explosive new DNA evidence that could see Bryan Kohberger walk free

Murder suspect Bryan Kohberger's defense attorneys made a stunning claim in court that threatens to upend the prosecution against him for the murders of four students.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The criminology student's lawyers claimed blood from an unknown man was found on a handrail in the victims' home and another's DNA was found on a glove outside.

There was a party there earlier.
All it would take was someone with a minor bloody nose and another person who dropped a glove.
My bet is that they didn't test the dna of all the males at the party -- but that said males have solid alibis.
This article can thus be taken with the proverbial grain, aka slow news day ?
Still believe LE have the right man in custody.
Omo.

Yes, it’s a bit of a routine maybe… slow day in true crime. Especially this being a high profile case. Refresh, repeat, and report. Anything to get news out there. It doesnt have to be right, taint the jury pool. moo.