GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #218

[girlhasnoname]

Ricci Davis wrote a letter to Fox59; it's included in the article.
[snips]
He said he wrote seven letters to McLeland about the confessions before “he convicted an innocent man.”

Davis wrote that he initially believed Allen had a hand in the murders but changed his mind after the trial was over.

“I realized then all I was told by Ron Logan was there after all and secondly Richard Allen was not a guilty man after all,” Davis wrote. “This left two uncharged men and now back to three uncharged again.”

https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/exclusive-inmate-says-delphi-prosecutor-ignored-his-letters-about-ron-logan-confession-in-letter-to-fox59/

How convenient for RD, dead men tell no tales. He's unreliable and looking for his 15 minutes of fame too.

JMO

 

[INfisherman]

So Baldwin now admits his epic Franks was all nonsense?

Good to know!

Well you know the epic won’t be complete until he ties everyone mentioned in every motion all together in his masterpiece - The Idiotyd.

The story of some Homer who says Odinists, RL, KK, TK, BH, PW, EF, JM, SM, TL, TL, JH, DC & the Masonic Super Duper Grand Poobah NM all met up & planned this on account of the evil Kraken DG had suddenly decided to stop informing so the SDGP (Super Duper Grand Poobah) could keep everyone rolling in cash from meth money & the only way to accomplish this grand scheme was to pin everything on a nobody CVS employee & allow the one who figured it all out (full time inmate/part time sleuth) RD, to be accessible via IDOC at any point in time. You know, leave the key to this whole "odyssey" just laying out for Homer to go & speak to after the trials, where sleuth figures out the caper & reveals to Homer he was lying the first time (withholding because he was duped into thinking RA was guilty) but now that he’s read everything from the trials, he knows RA is innocent & proceeds to really tell the whole truth this time - with a promise & fingers crossed & swearing on his reputation as a high quality meth cook/forger & a great dad.

KK says he is also telling the truth because he didn’t ask for any donuts or jelly rolls in trade for his confession.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

So... I'm still struggling with this. Richard Allen still can't get off that bridge. Richard Allen has still seen the 4 girls who all saw him. He's still on platform One when Betsy Blair sees him. BB then sees libby and Abby. Richard Allen somehow gets off the platform, doesn't see the two girls and also misses Ron Logan and Keegan Kline cross the bridge, approach the girls, force them down the hill. Oh and they also planted his bullet between the girls.

He's super unlucky..

Right and don't forget SC saw him walking down old N300 at a close distance at approx 3:50 pm. Poor little fragile egg RA, the whole world is out to frame up an innocent men.

moo

 

[steeltowngirl]

I can’t summon the energy to bother with Baldwins latest conspiracy. But it should be noted that none of what Ricci is suddenly claiming amounts to evidence in the case. Baldwin didn’t attempt to include this rando at trial even though he knew about him.

MOO

Baldwin seems to be a conspiracist in my view. He spent 2 years on a completely different conspiracy which he claimed was true. Now he has a completely new and different conspiracy. That can work in court to have contradictory theories but obviously outside the courtroom there is no reason to give this any credence

in fairness, there was a motion for transport order for Ricci. It may have fallen through with the ruling against a third-party defense.

Post in thread 'Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #197'

Post in thread 'Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #197'

 

[FrostedGlass]

I can’t summon the energy to bother with Baldwins latest conspiracy. But it should be noted that none of what Ricci is suddenly claiming amounts to evidence in the case. Baldwin didn’t attempt to include this rando at trial even though he knew about him.

MOO

Baldwin seems to be a conspiracist in my view. He spent 2 years on a completely different conspiracy which he claimed was true. Now he has a completely new and different conspiracy. That can work in court to have contradictory theories but obviously outside the courtroom there is no reason to give this any credence

Didn't the judge rule against any mention of RL and KAK, along with a number of others?

 

[mrjitty]

Didn't the judge rule against any mention of RL and KAK, along with a number of others?

Yes but the defence spent approximately 5 mins on RL at the 3 day hearing and didn't bother to call this witness when they had a venue to do so.

So now they have to pretend that have all this new info which they didn't have at trial.

Baldwin by his own account met with this witness on 27 March 2024. I suspect it will be very difficult to persuade any appeal court that this is new bombshell evidence.

 

[mrjitty]

Baldwin raced on to Motta's show to discuss the new bombshell developments.

I guess this is just what D attorneys do these days? How does this help his client exactly?

 

[FrostedGlass]

Yes but the defence spent approximately 5 mins on RL at the 3 day hearing and didn't bother to call this witness when they had a venue to do so.

So now they have to pretend that have all this new info which they didn't have at trial.

Baldwin by his own account met with this witness on 27 March 2024. I suspect it will be very difficult to persuade any appeal court that this is new bombshell evidence.

Was that when she refused to hear 3rd party evidence but allowed the D to (what's the term?) Show Proof of Evidence? In Nick's reply, what was the date on when he gave D discovery?

We know the witness did not cooperate with Baldwin in that interview, only telling him to go listen to the interview.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Baldwin raced on to Motta's show to discuss the new bombshell developments.

I guess this is just what D attorneys do these days? How does this help his client exactly?

I haven't listened; what does he say?

He's probably just feeling the need to share his side since the long lineup of LE giving interviews with TMS?

MOO

 

[mrjitty]

Was that when she refused to hear 3rd party evidence but allowed the D to (what's the term?) Show Proof of Evidence? In Nick's reply, what was the date on when he gave D discovery?

We know the witness did not cooperate with Baldwin in that interview, only telling him to go listen to the interview.

Remember there was a 3 day motion in Limine hearing where the defence had the chance to present their evidential basis for RL as an alt.

They could have called this witness at that hearing.

 

[mrjitty]

The funniest part of this is Baldwin is effectively admitting that the Franks was all nonsense and now this is his theory.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Remember there was a 3 day motion in Limine hearing where the defence had the chance to present their evidential basis for RL as an alt.

They could have called this witness at that hearing.

Are you talking about this 3 day hearing?

07/30/2024 Miscellaneous Motions Session: 07/30/2024 10:00 AM, Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Session: 07/31/2024 10:00 AM, Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Session: 08/01/2024 10:00 AM, Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Comment: SJ Gull​

 

[Vern]

@Niner

Updates:

14 Feb 2025 - Defendant's Motion To Correct Abstract Of Judgement Filed 20 Jan 2025 - DENIED Without Hearing

_Order on February 14, 2025.pdf

drive.google.com

14 Feb 2025 - Defendant's Motion To Correct Errors Filed 20 Jan 2025 DENIED Without Hearing // And Further DENIES The Defendant's Verified Motion To Strike The State's Response To Motion To Correct Error

_Order on February 14, 2025.pdf

drive.google.com

No new evidence = DENIED as most of us called it.

The Defence subpoenaed Ricci Davis. Gull even GRANTED the Motion To Transport him to trial. Defence failed to call him.

 

[mrjitty]

Are you talking about this 3 day hearing?

07/30/2024 Miscellaneous Motions Session: 07/30/2024 10:00 AM, Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Session: 07/31/2024 10:00 AM, Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Session: 08/01/2024 10:00 AM, Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Comment: SJ Gull​

It's the one where they presented their case to include Odinism, and argued to exclude the confessions. IIRC they spent over a day on Odinism - with multiple witnesses. Then a skimpy presentation on KAK and RL was an afterthought. They did not call the witness AFAIK.

So if they've now decided that RL & KAK did it, it really calls into question their failure to allocate resources correctly.

Or it could be that this is all a lot of nonsense from a witness with no credibility and the defence knew that, which is why they never argued it.

MOO

 

[mrjitty]

The Defence subpoenaed Ricci Davis. Gull even GRANTED the Motion To Transport him to trial. Defence failed to call him.

Maybe AB is trying to highlight his own negligent representation?

MOO

Motta seemed to raise that possibility in his own show I posted above.

 

[FrostedGlass]

It's the one where they presented their case to include Odinism, and argued to exclude the confessions. IIRC they spent over a day on Odinism - with multiple witnesses. Then a skimpy presentation on KAK and RL was an afterthought. They did not call the witness AFAIK.

So if they've now decided that RL & KAK did it, it really calls into question their failure to allocate resources correctly.

Or it could be that this is all a lot of nonsense from a witness with no credibility and the defence knew that, which is why they never argued it.

MOO

If you aren't referring to the one I posted, then I don't know which one you're talking about. I don't have access to all the sessions during those three days. Did your info come from TMS?
Here is Vern's link to the sessions we have in hand

Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #195

ETA this is a pdf download so not what you asked for. Leaving it stand as it’s easy to download though. Yes thank you steeltowngirl, that's the pdf download link for Harshman, I guess his transcript is not published on scribd site yet?

www.websleuths.com

I don't think they have decided that RL/KAK did it. IMO they want what Nick has.

 

[Vern]

...

Or it could be that this is all a lot of nonsense from a witness with no credibility and the defence knew that, which is why they never argued it.

MOO

RS&BBM,

You have a BINGO!!

His 'evidence' (clothing all being burned in a fire etc) just doesn't fit the actual physical evidence. They didn't call him because he would have been instantaneously impeached and their client found guilty (maybe even quicker than he actually was found guilty).

The Defence interviewed Davis in March 2024. Before the 3 Day Hearings and before the trial.

- They had direct lines of communications with him - their 'witness';
- They subpoenaed him to testify at trial;
- Gull GRANTED the Defence's Motion To Transport Davis to trial;
- Gull exlplicity allowed the Defence opportunity to 'show proof' at trial;
- Defence isn't communicating with their own subpoenaed witness during the trial & fails to call him in as their 'show proof'??
- Defence produces no new evidence.

Defence choices. Their trial strategy once again.

Their bad choices on strategy, once again, do not an appeal or a new trial make.

The jury got it right. They saw and heard the evidence they needed to and I am sooooooooo over questionning them while letting the Defence slide on their failures. Let the Defence "own it".

 

[FrostedGlass]

Notice who she noticed:

02/18/2025 Order Issued Defendant's Motion to Correct Abstract of Judgment, filed January 20, 2025, reviewed and denied without hearing. Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Noticed: McLeland, Nicholas Charles Noticed: Luttrull, James David JR Noticed: Diener, Stacey Lynn Noticed: Uliana, Stacy R Noticed: Leeman, Mark Kelly Order Signed: 02/14/2025​

02/18/2025 Order Issued The Court, having received Defendant's, Richard Allen, Verified Motion to Correct Errors filed January 20, 2025, the State's Response to Motion to Correct Error, filed February 4, 2025, and the Defendant's Verified Motion to Strike the State's Response to Motion to Correct Error, filed February 14, 2025, now denies Defendant's, Richard Allen, Verified Motion to Correct Error and further denies the Defendant's Verified Motion to Strike the State's Response to Motion to Correct Error without hearing. Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Noticed: McLeland, Nicholas Charles Noticed: Luttrull, James David JR Noticed: Diener, Stacey Lynn Noticed: Uliana, Stacy R Noticed: Leeman, Mark Kelly Order Signed: 02/14/2025​

 

[tlcya]

@Niner

The Defence subpoenaed Ricci Davis. Gull even GRANTED the Motion To Transport him to trial. Defence failed to call him.

[snipped by tlcya to add emphasis]

 

[FrostedGlass]

Two more. The first one was the one I really hoped she would not do.
Color me not surprised.

02/18/2025 Order Issued Defendant's Motion to Preserve Specific Evidence, filed January 20, 2025, is reviewed by the Court. The Defendant has cited no authority, either statutory or case law, that supports his Motion. The Court will maintain the exhibits admitted into evidence in accordance with the Trial and Appellate Rules. However, the Court does not have the authority to "order the State of Indiana, including the prosecutor's office and all law enforcement agencies, labs, or state, federal, and local bureaucracies that possess any of the following evidence to preserve said evidence and not destroy or lose said evidence." (Defendant's Motion to Preserve Specific Evidence). Defendant's Motion to Preserve Specific Evidence is, therefore, denied without hearing. Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Noticed: McLeland, Nicholas Charles Noticed: Luttrull, James David JR Noticed: Diener, Stacey Lynn Noticed: Uliana, Stacy R Noticed: Leeman, Mark Kelly Order Signed: 02/14/2025​

02/18/2025 Order Issued Defendant's Motion for Hearing on Motion to Correct Error, filed January 20, 2025, reviewed. No hearing is required on Defendant's Motion to Correct Error, therefore the Motion for Hearing is denied without hearing. Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Noticed: McLeland, Nicholas Charles Noticed: Luttrull, James David JR Noticed: Diener, Stacey Lynn Noticed: Uliana, Stacy R Noticed: Leeman, Mark Kelly Order Signed: 02/14/2025​