Alaska Airlines flight makes emergency landing after window blows out

[LinasK]

FAA seeks $3.1 million in fines from Boeing over safety violations, 2024 midair panel blowout

The Federal Aviation Administration is seeking $3.1 million in fines from Boeing over safety violations, including an incident in January last year where an Alaska Airlines jetliner lost a door plug panel on its fuselage in midflight.

apnews.com

 

[LinasK]

Wild New Details Released In Case Of Alaska Airlines Pilot Who Tried To Kill Engines Mid-Flight

New details reveal the events leading to an Alaska Airlines pilot's attempt to disable engines mid-flight after using Magic Mushrooms.

www.paddleyourownkanoo.com

 

[PrairieWind]

Wow that is wild.

 

[Charlot123]

Wild New Details Released In Case Of Alaska Airlines Pilot Who Tried To Kill Engines Mid-Flight

New details reveal the events leading to an Alaska Airlines pilot's attempt to disable engines mid-flight after using Magic Mushrooms.

www.paddleyourownkanoo.com

I can't see how using mushrooms mitigates his situation.

He guy could have killed the passengers and the pilots. He tried to crash the plane. That's the fact. The rest, mushrooms a week ago or no mushrooms, is just an explanation that doesn't alter the facts.

And he hopes to ever fly again??? He is still delusional.

I think that being post-mushrooms makes it an aggravating circumstance but that's all.

 

[PrairieWind]

I can't see how using mushrooms mitigates his situation.

He guy could have killed the passengers and the pilots. He tried to crash the plane. That's the fact. The rest, mushrooms a week ago or no mushrooms, is just an explanation that doesn't alter the facts.

And he hopes to ever fly again??? He is still delusional.

I think that being post-mushrooms makes it an aggravating circumstance but that's all.

If it is true that he suffered from Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder related to this mushroom use, then he should certainly never be able to re-obtain his commercial pilot license.

 

[LinasK]

I can't see how using mushrooms mitigates his situation.

He guy could have killed the passengers and the pilots. He tried to crash the plane. That's the fact. The rest, mushrooms a week ago or no mushrooms, is just an explanation that doesn't alter the facts.

And he hopes to ever fly again??? He is still delusional.

I think that being post-mushrooms makes it an aggravating circumstance but that's all.

And did you read the other dangerous actions he took after leaving the cockpit??? He was a clear danger to everyone onboard until the got him off that plane. He should never been allowed on an airplane even as a passenger ever again!

 

[LinasK]

Pilot Who Tried To Cut Alaska Airlines Engines Midair Learns His Fate In Criminal Case

Off-duty pilot Joseph Emerson said he had taken shrooms 2 days earlier. "Pilots are not perfect. They are human," said Judge Amy Baggio.

patch.com

 

[GraceG]

If it is true that he suffered from Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder related to this mushroom use, then he should certainly never be able to re-obtain his commercial pilot license.

I didn't comment on this at the time as I was still employed by the DOT and I did a lot of work in legal cases involving revocation of airmen certs for air carrier pilots (by a lot, meaning the cases are rare, but when I got a case there was a lot of work to do).
I still ethically can't say in a public forum anything I know about this case that's not in a public record though.

BUT, in this case, like cases involving "drunk" pilots (attempting to or operating an aircraft with a BAC over the FAR limit) the FAA doesn't necessarily revoke the pilot certificate. In most cases (except some involving drug running and other such cases) the revocation allows the pilot to reapply for all certificates after 1 year. They have to take all the checkrides for recertification again however, though their experience still counts towards the requirements for taking the check. But in the case of someone with a drug/alcohhol problem, that's not ideal so rather than just the FAA revoking the flight certificate the FAA airmen medical branch (through coordination with headquarters in Washington DC) denies (voids) the persons medical certification, without that you can't fly. If you look him up in the faa.gov database there's a number to call there for medical info. If he even tries to reapply for medical certification it's going to be a big NO. Even for alcoholics, who don't have "incidents" and simply report their issue voluntarily and go through a formal HIMS FAA process for recertification of medical privileges it can take 8 months. In Emerson's case, I don't think he'll ever have the opportunity.

 

[LinasK]

I didn't comment on this at the time as I was still employed by the DOT and I did a lot of work in legal cases involving revocation of airmen certs for air carrier pilots (by a lot, meaning the cases are rare, but when I got a case there was a lot of work to do).
I still ethically can't say in a public forum anything I know about this case that's not in a public record though.

BUT, in this case, like cases involving "drunk" pilots (attempting to or operating an aircraft with a BAC over the FAR limit) the FAA doesn't necessarily revoke the pilot certificate. In most cases (except some involving drug running and other such cases) the revocation allows the pilot to reapply for all certificates after 1 year. They have to take all the checkrides for recertification again however, though their experience still counts towards the requirements for taking the check. But in the case of someone with a drug/alcohhol problem, that's not ideal so rather than the FAA revoking the flight certificate the FAA airmen medical branch (through coordination with headquarters in Washington DC) denies (voids) the persons medical certification, without that you can't fly. If you look him up in the faa.gov database there's a number to call there for medical info. If he even tries to reapply for medical certification it's going to be a big NO. Even for alcoholics, who don't have "incidents" and simply report their issue voluntarily and go through a formal HIMS FAA process for recertification of medical privileges it can take 8 months. In Emerson's case, I don't think he'll ever have the opportunity.

For me, your information is a comforting thought for me flying Alaska airlines, or any other airlines. I don't want to have to worry that I'm putting my life in the hands of an unsafe pilot.

 

[PrairieWind]

I didn't comment on this at the time as I was still employed by the DOT and I did a lot of work in legal cases involving revocation of airmen certs for air carrier pilots (by a lot, meaning the cases are rare, but when I got a case there was a lot of work to do).
I still ethically can't say in a public forum anything I know about this case that's not in a public record though.

BUT, in this case, like cases involving "drunk" pilots (attempting to or operating an aircraft with a BAC over the FAR limit) the FAA doesn't necessarily revoke the pilot certificate. In most cases (except some involving drug running and other such cases) the revocation allows the pilot to reapply for all certificates after 1 year. They have to take all the checkrides for recertification again however, though their experience still counts towards the requirements for taking the check. But in the case of someone with a drug/alcohhol problem, that's not ideal so rather than the FAA revoking the flight certificate the FAA airmen medical branch (through coordination with headquarters in Washington DC) denies (voids) the persons medical certification, without that you can't fly. If you look him up in the faa.gov database there's a number to call there for medical info. If he even tries to reapply for medical certification it's going to be a big NO. Even for alcoholics, who don't have "incidents" and simply report their issue voluntarily and go through a formal HIMS FAA process for recertification of medical privileges it can take 8 months. In Emerson's case, I don't think he'll ever have the opportunity.

Thanks for the info. You see this often, a license/permit is revoked, but a person can reapply. And that is usually required since permanently revoking would bring up constitutional issues that you don't want to deal with. Just let them reapply and then bring up the issue as a reason to not give a new license. In this case, the FAA could just say that you never know when this guy might have another episode.