Australia AUSTRALIA - 4YO AUGUST (GUS) Missing from rural family home in Outback, Yunta, South Australia, 27th Sept 2025

[GracefulD1an]

I hope the possibility of the flooding bringing something to the surface stresses the grandparents right out
MOO

Oh it is probably going to. If the waters reveal Gus’ remains and they show signs of trauma then

 

[Marg944]

More news on the flood situation at Yunta.

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[katydid23]

Wow.




There is some reporting from the daily mail that suggest something got loud one day. When Gus was newly missing. I'd be screaming and crying if I were that boys mother, father or grandparent.

If it is true there was yelling, it does not come close to implying all you are reading into it.



Advice? Gus' father is not in an advisory role. He is a primary parent. He is half responsible for the living situation.

I would presume if he chose to live over an hour away and not have checked in at all with his children by all appearances from at least 5:00PM until he was awakened by the police, he was very comfortable with his children's living situation.

And AFAIK, he has never said he wasn't. There is just a report of raised voices in the middle of a crisis, when people are understandably upset. None of us heard the words.

MOO

I thought it was reported earlier that Josh used to live at the station with his family, but he and Josie did not get along and Josh was asked to leave the property?

After that happened. Josh said that he did not feel that his children were safe living there. And he was fixing up the place he was living in town, so his kids could come live there with him.

So it is a big assumption to make that he approved of the living conditions for his children. And saying he 'chose' to live an hour away. WHERE ELSE could he go besides an hour away? There's literally no place else to live beside the closest town, which is where he moved to.

It is also an assumption that he could do anything about changing the custody situation easily or quickly. It is not always easy, especially if he was not married to the mother of the children.

 

[_sleuthdog_]

Josh never lived at the station but has spent time there.


Edit - I’ll rephrase…..I do not believe that Josh ever lived at the station but has spent time there. IMO.

 

[Warshawski]

How would he have no choice? He is the father. He was part of the partnership determining how to raise Gus and his little brother.

At the very least, his sons could live with him half the time.

MOO

I will just say that, IMO, what sounds simple and easy, often is not

 

[FromGermany1]

This case reminds me of little Emile's case in France.

2 nearly invisible parents, no background of them; one baby sibling of the little boy; 2 grandparents responsible, when the boy vanished; one of the grandparents may have a temper, the other one is hiding like a shy woman.

The difference is, that little Emile is meanwhile found dead and little Gus is not. Both cases still unsolved.

 

[Warshawski]

Wow.




There is some reporting from the daily mail that suggest something got loud one day. When Gus was newly missing. I'd be screaming and crying if I were that boys mother, father or grandparent.

If it is true there was yelling, it does not come close to implying all you are reading into it.



Advice? Gus' father is not in an advisory role. He is a primary parent. He is half responsible for the living situation.

I would presume if he chose to live over an hour away and not have checked in at all with his children by all appearances from at least 5:00PM until he was awakened by the police, he was very comfortable with his children's living situation.

And AFAIK, he has never said he wasn't. There is just a report of raised voices in the middle of a crisis, when people are understandably upset. None of us heard the words.

MOO

I don’t have a link so just IMO I think there was a disagreement when Josh was searching, hence why he wasn’t doing that for long.

 

[GracefulD1an]

Regarding what katydid23 wrote that is indeed true based on what I read. I’m not familiar with custody laws in Australia but I suspect the fact they were never officially married meant that he didn’t have much in the ways of rights. It’s complicated when a person isn’t married to the other parent of their child in terms of custody based on my understanding. Like I said I don’t know anything about Australian custody laws.

 

[Hexe]

Regarding what katydid23 wrote that is indeed true based on what I read. I’m not familiar with custody laws in Australia but I suspect the fact they were never officially married meant that he didn’t have much in the ways of rights. It’s complicated when a person isn’t married to the other parent of their child in terms of custody based on my understanding.

The Australian law does not differentiate between married and unmarried parents. Even if Josh never married Jess he still has full parental rights.

 

[jepop]

Regarding what katydid23 wrote that is indeed true based on what I read. I’m not familiar with custody laws in Australia but I suspect the fact they were never officially married meant that he didn’t have much in the ways of rights. It’s complicated when a person isn’t married to the other parent of their child in terms of custody based on my understanding. Like I said I don’t know anything about Australian custody laws.

https://newsouthlawyers.com.au/what-unmarried-parents-need-to-know-about-custody/

"Under the Family Law Act 1975, both parents — married or not — generally share equal parental responsibility for their child. This means both have the right to make decisions about their child’s welfare, education, healthcare, and upbringing.'

" In practice, the court’s main concern is the child’s best interests. Whether parents are married, in a de facto relationship, or separated, the same principles apply when determining custody or parenting arrangements.
If both parents are listed on the child’s birth certificate, their legal rights are recognised equally."

The above is from a New South Wales law firm. However the same applies throughout all states of Australia. See Relationships Australia website.

https://www.familyrelationships.gov.au/parenting/children-family-law

 

[GracefulD1an]

https://newsouthlawyers.com.au/what-unmarried-parents-need-to-know-about-custody/

"Under the Family Law Act 1975, both parents — married or not — generally share equal parental responsibility for their child. This means both have the right to make decisions about their child’s welfare, education, healthcare, and upbringing.'

" In practice, the court’s main concern is the child’s best interests. Whether parents are married, in a de facto relationship, or separated, the same principles apply when determining custody or parenting arrangements.
If both parents are listed on the child’s birth certificate, their legal rights are recognised equally."

The above is from a New South Wales law firm. However the same applies throughout all states of Australia. See Relationships Australia website.

https://www.familyrelationships.gov.au/parenting/children-family-law

Thanks. Like I said I have no clue about familial law in Australia.

 

[Serononin]

I’m struggling with how telling the lack of cooperation is. Early on, there was plenty of cooperation. But cooperation tends to stop when charges are laid, even if unrelated, usually at a legal advocate’s recommendation. I’d like to know if the lack of cooperation began before the gun charges were brought or after. To me, those are pretty different things in terms of how suspicious it is.

It would definitely be interesting to know at what point the lawyers first became involved

 

[Ruminations]

It would definitely be interesting to know at what point the lawyers first became involved

If it were me as any of the parents or grandparents, it would have been VERY quickly- as soon as I realized that LE was not imminently finding him.

If for no other reason because I'd need a voice appealing for help, while I'd probably be unable to string together a sentence.

MOO

 

[GracefulD1an]

If it were me as any of the parents or grandparents, it would have been VERY quickly- as soon as I realized that LE was not imminently finding him.

If for no other reason because I'd need a voice appealing for help, while I'd probably be unable to string together a sentence.

MOO

Yeah that’s true and yet after a short period of time they became quite defensive. This ties back into my theory of an accidental death and coverup. If they did admit that there was an accident on the ranch that cost Gus his life right away they would theoretically look at a lawsuit from their grandson’s dad over safety concerns. How much money does the ranch generate? I need to look up payments for injury/death lawsuits in Australia because if it was more than they had in the back…