Australian detectives appeal for public’s help to identify objects discovered in online child sexual abuse material that could help unlock cold cases

[MrsAddick]

Crowd-sourced sleuthing! IMO police should reach out to public more for this type of help. Anklets, pillows, bedheads: The objects that could help crack a cold case

 

[MrsAddick]

Images can be viewed and intel submitted at this Australian government website - Stop Child Abuse - Trace an Object | ACCCE

 

[Melquiades]

Crowd-sourced sleuthing! IMO police should reach out to public more for this type of help. Anklets, pillows, bedheads: The objects that could help crack a cold case

Most of these are pretty benign and/or common but the double-framed AFL/footie uniforms are an utterly unique/recognizable item that should be the easiest thing on the list to track. Photo should be given to every custom picture framing shop in the country.

 

[iamshadow21]

Most of these are pretty benign and/or common but the double-framed AFL/footie uniforms are an utterly unique/recognizable item that should be the easiest thing on the list to track. Photo should be given to every custom picture framing shop in the country.

The anklet is probably handmade. I made those kind of bracelets myself when I was a teenager.

MOO

 

[Melquiades]

The anklet is probably handmade. I made those kind of bracelets myself when I was a teenager.

MOO

Almost certainly homemade. My daughter has those sorts of things too.

Problem is that these sorts of multi-coloured bracelets are incredibly common and it’s pretty unlikely that someone could specifically remember seeing that exact pattern over a decade ago.

The giant uniform wall mount is a different story - you’d remember seeing that hanging on the wall of a house you’d been in and you’d remember if you did the framing on it at a shop.

 

[iamshadow21]

Almost certainly homemade. My daughter has those sorts of things too.

Problem is that these sorts of multi-coloured bracelets are incredibly common and it’s pretty unlikely that someone could specifically remember seeing that exact pattern over a decade ago.

The giant uniform wall mount is a different story - you’d remember seeing that hanging on the wall of a house you’d been in and you’d remember if you did the framing on it at a shop.

They are common, but all it would take would be someone recognising their own handiwork, or that someone they knew well wore one that looked like that on their ankle. That wave design is less common - chevrons, stripes and zigzags are far more common because they're easier. A curve is a trickier design to execute. From what I remember, anyway. I'm still constantly doing various fibre crafts, but it's probably been thirty years since I made a friendship bracelet.

The shirts are very useful. They're very likely to be the playing jerseys of a specific individual. Someone played those numbers, for that team, and had them framed, or they were framed for them as a gift. That's not the kind of thing someone throws away.

MOO

 

[Melquiades]

They are common, but all it would take would be someone recognising their own handiwork, or that someone they knew well wore one that looked like that on their ankle. That wave design is less common - chevrons, stripes and zigzags are far more common because they're easier. A curve is a trickier design to execute. From what I remember, anyway. I'm still constantly doing various fibre crafts, but it's probably been thirty years since I made a friendship bracelet.

My daughter hasn't worn hers since the summer and I honestly can't remember what they look like after only a couple months. Maybe others have better memories, haha.

The shirts are very useful. They're very likely to be the playing jerseys of a specific individual. Someone played those numbers, for that team, and had them framed, or they were framed for them as a gift. That's not the kind of thing someone throws away.

MOO

If you look at the white blur above the numbers they're a different size. One looks to be 3-4 letters and the other 6-7 letters. My first thought is that they're nameplates - which would mean that these are from two different players - but it could also be a different advertisement plate from a different year.

If they're nameplates then they're probably game-used uniforms that a fan obtained of his favourite players and had mounted together.

The assumption here (and seems to be the police assumption as well based on the comments with the uniforms) is that they're AFL (Aussie rules football) jerseys. Problem there is that the pattern of numbers/names/advertising doesn't match. All-time Sydney Swans uniforms as below :

Swans Home Jumpers

add your site description here

www.footyjumpers.com

Could be lower leagues, though. But is anyone framing uniforms of different players from lower leagues?

Only other sport (that I'm aware of) that uses sleeveless uniforms is basketball so these could be basketball as well. Namplate/number style does seem more basketball-ish.

Regardless, it's recognizable. Someone has been in that house and would remember something that distinctive.

 

[iamshadow21]

My daughter hasn't worn hers since the summer and I honestly can't remember what they look like after only a couple months. Maybe others have better memories, haha.



If you look at the white blur above the numbers they're a different size. One looks to be 3-4 letters and the other 6-7 letters. My first thought is that they're nameplates - which would mean that these are from two different players - but it could also be a different advertisement plate from a different year.

If they're nameplates then they're probably game-used uniforms that a fan obtained of his favourite players and had mounted together.

The assumption here (and seems to be the police assumption as well based on the comments with the uniforms) is that they're AFL (Aussie rules football) jerseys. Problem there is that the pattern of numbers/names/advertising doesn't match. All-time Sydney Swans uniforms as below :

Swans Home Jumpers

add your site description here

www.footyjumpers.com

Could be lower leagues, though. But is anyone framing uniforms of different players from lower leagues?

Only other sport (that I'm aware of) that uses sleeveless uniforms is basketball so these could be basketball as well. Namplate/number style does seem more basketball-ish.

Regardless, it's recognizable. Someone has been in that house and would remember something that distinctive.

Or they're the uniforms of junior players. Teenagers, maybe. Two kids? There are amateur and junior leagues everywhere. Though AFL is played in Sydney, it's far more commonly played in the southern states. Victoria, South Australia. And people do frame the jerseys of their kids. Especially if they wore them in a big game.

MOO

 

[Melquiades]

Or they're the uniforms of junior players. Teenagers, maybe. Two kids? There are amateur and junior leagues everywhere. Though AFL is played in Sydney, it's far more commonly played in the southern states. Victoria, South Australia. And people do frame the jerseys of their kids. Especially if they wore them in a big game.

MOO

Could be?

Those nameplates are what's getting me. Something much longer is written over the 11 than the 8. It's the same jersey ... but different.

And the more I look at the design, the more I wonder if these are basketball jerseys. It looks more like an NBA or NBL jersey (or some lower league) with a nameplate above a number than it does any sort of AFL uniform which don't usually have nameplates, and if they have something over the number it's usually an abbreviated club name like 'SAFC' or something that would be consistent across all uniforms, not different from one to the next.

If it's basketball that might explain why they haven't been identified - you'd think it would be relatively straightforward to go through every amateur footie club in Australia until they find one that's all-red with black trim around the arm holes.

 

[iamshadow21]

Could be?

Those nameplates are what's getting me. Something much longer is written over the 11 than the 8. It's the same jersey ... but different.

And the more I look at the design, the more I wonder if these are basketball jerseys. It looks more like an NBA or NBL jersey (or some lower league) with a nameplate above a number than it does any sort of AFL uniform which don't usually have nameplates, and if they have something over the number it's usually an abbreviated club name like 'SAFC' or something that would be consistent across all uniforms, not different from one to the next.

If it's basketball that might explain why they haven't been identified - you'd think it would be relatively straightforward to go through every amateur footie club in Australia until they find one that's all-red with black trim around the arm holes.

They could be from school teams, too.

I do agree they're the most identifiable thing. There will be more than one team out there with those colours, but it will narrow the field considerably.

Unlike things like sheets, children's clothes, furnishings, etc which change relatively quickly, it's a thing someone is going to not only keep but display prominently.

MOO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

In my opinion I would say that basketball is still a niche sport in Australia, particularly as compared to football

I may be wrong as I've never been into team sports.

 

[Melquiades]

In my opinion I would say that basketball is still a niche sport in Australia, particularly as compared to football

I may be wrong as I've never been into team sports.

NBL is pretty big there and they have several prominent players in the NBA.

It's obviously much less popular than AFL/NRL but it isn't like cricket in NA or ice hockey in India or something.

The jerseys just look like the sort of basketball format :

BELL
8

AFL uniforms (and pretty much all of the amateur unis I can find, and I've gone on a fairly deep dive here now) tend to be of the format :

SAFC
8
GIANT AD

... with no nameplate. So you wouldn't ever have a variable-size thing above the number.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I live in Australia and have since birth.

It's news to me about basketball being more than a niche sport though I do know that Aussies do follow US teams.

I stand corrected. As a news item from this year says it is growing in popularity.


My thoughts were not how popular it is now. but I still think it was niche when these photos were taken.

The items do look quite dated.