Austria - Thomas Plamberge leaves gf, Kerstin Gurtner to freeze to death on Austria's tallest mountain - charged with manslaughter - Jan.19/2025

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I suspect that the victim, being an inexperienced climber herself, was relying and putting trust in her boyfriend. He was an experience climber who was responsible for doing those risk assessments on her behalf (ie like a ‘tour guide’).
Perhaps, she had reservations, but was being pressured and coerced. Who knows what was happening in that relationship.
Either way, she’s bears no fault here

I believe that she could have said, "No". And not gone on a hike she didn't have the experience or ability for. She didn't even have the correct boots or clothing.

Women are not helpless, they do have the ability to walk away from a situation that is unsafe. Before she froze to death on a mountain.
 
  • #22
I believe that she could have said, "No". And not gone on a hike she didn't have the experience or ability for. She didn't even have the correct boots or clothing.

Women are not helpless, they do have the ability to walk away from a situation that is unsafe. Before she froze to death on a mountain.
Again, I don’t know anything about their relationship. However, there could be dynamics at play that adversely affect her ability to simply say ‘no’ (for example, coercive control as a form of domestic violence OR just trusting your boyfriend’s intentions)

Tbh - what concerns me most is your dogged propensity to blame the victim for her death. The dude irrefutably f*cked up in so many obvious ways. Hard not to assume malicious intent over reckless incompetence.
 
  • #23
I believe that she could have said, "No". And not gone on a hike she didn't have the experience or ability for. She didn't even have the correct boots or clothing.

Women are not helpless, they do have the ability to walk away from a situation that is unsafe. Before she froze to death on a mountain.


When the situation became life threatening, although she could not have walked to safety, she should have survived. There were crews ready to rescue them.

He failed to give a distress signal when the helicopter flew over even though he knew they were stranded. He walked away with the emergency blanket.

The problem with blaming the victim is that it frees the perpetrator from responsibility.
 

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