AZ AZ - Robert William "Bobby" Fisher, Scottsdale, Apr 2001 *FBI Ten Most Wanted*

[Wiserconnie]

I had thought he looked very familiar when I first saw his picture. I managed a convience store several years ago and he looked like one of my customers. So I've been interested in this case ever since.

 

[:+:MrTT:+:]

I covered the Fisher case as a local tv news reporter when it happened. I think you are spot on about the FBI believing Fisher is alive. I've been re-investigating the case for more than a year now. I found new info that Fisher never left the area and in fact lived on a ranch in northern Arizona as a ranch hand. He befriended a rancher that had no clue Fisher was a wanted man. It was a very bizarre twist in the case and seemed so simple too. Shocked me. Plus my investigation found a mysterious note at the Fisher family's gravesite.
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Have they checked with Interpol I think its called?? Did they send flyers of this murderer to International places. Such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, places like that.

 

[nannymo]

Mr TT-----what do you think about the picture from Amarillo?

 

[nannymo]

I am sorry, I meant that comment about the picture for rob2237 since he has covered this case. I wasn't paying attention!

rob2237....what do you think about the picture from Amarillo?

 

[rob2237]

Just listened to the podcast. Very interesting. I guess you never found the rancher? Sounds like it could have been someone planting an idea for the community also. I find it very strange the rancher was not known to the store owner. Most ranchers and their "hired help" use the same places of business. I wonder if they were just traveling through the area? I lean toward it being planted information, but no facts to back that up....

Is there a documentary we can watch? Thanks for your hard work. Maybe it will turn up something.

Just thought about this also. Isn't it illegal to bury someone on your property if you have not notified the authorities? Maybe you can search public death records around the time of the store visit and see if they were "private cemetery" burials?

Thanks for joining the thread.

Thank you for listening! Crazy case for sure and so tragic. Haven't found the rancher yet. I'm meeting with some folks next week that might help shed some light on that part of my investigation. If it was planted info. what would that rancher be getting out of doing that? What would his motive be? Not sure I agree with you on that one but I do appreciate the feedback. It helps!

This area is so vast and remote it's tough. You actually have people who live in caves in this area. I am not kidding!! If this rancher needed oxygen -- well someone was re-filling these tanks. Hard to get away from that. I like your idea of passing through the area and the burial. Something I want to certainly take a closer look.

I've got some new leads and episodes we will be putting up soon. Have you seen the documentary, "Where is Robert Fisher?" It's on amazon prime, Netflix too. You might even find it on YouTube.

 

[rob2237]

Wow. Thanks for your work on this. I'm in the middle of a major work deadline right now, but I look forward to listening to the podcast.

Let me know what you think -- it's still ongoing investigation so I will be adding episodes.

 

[rob2237]

Sorry if I'm doing this wrong. I am new to posting . This was on our news 3 days ago but is from may 1st. Maybe I'm wrong but sure looks like him to me.



Amarillo police looking for

Sure is interesting!!! Fisher has that pointed nose too. It's a little grainy for me to see but it has similarities. It is going to be the public that catches this guy! Thank you for reporting it. We all need to stay on top of this.

 

[rob2237]

After watching the documentary, I feel he is still alive myself. All of his clothing is missing from the house. If he had it with him and killed himself, where are all of his clothes. There has never been any sign of him whatsoever. He was too narcissistic to commit suicide I think.

I agree 100% with you!

 

[rob2237]

I am sorry, I meant that comment about the picture for rob2237 since he has covered this case. I wasn't paying attention!

rob2237....what do you think about the picture from Amarillo?

Wild! I see similarities for sure. Plus we would be looking at almost 20 years later -- but those distinct features like his pointed nose don't change. Well, of course if he had plastic surgery but I don't see that happening. He'd be caught. The public is the one who is going to nab this guy -- so glad you all are out here and still care about seeing justice.

 

[rob2237]

This is the reason I believe Robert had an accomplice. There was only a fingerprint on the interior on a coffee mug which was Robert's. The police could not elaborate on this extramarital affair because of their leads. For all we know, there could be another player somewhere right under the radar who knows. I could see a prostitute being involved in this. I don't think there is anything about that in the police report but I haven't read it all.

All my years of covering this we never found that woman. To my knowledge neither have police. I have some new leads. Maybe a missing person? Another victim because he didn't want any loose ends?

 

[nannymo]

Thank you for listening! Crazy case for sure and so tragic. Haven't found the rancher yet. I'm meeting with some folks next week that might help shed some light on that part of my investigation. If it was planted info. what would that rancher be getting out of doing that? What would his motive be? Not sure I agree with you on that one but I do appreciate the feedback. It helps!

This area is so vast and remote it's tough. You actually have people who live in caves in this area. I am not kidding!! If this rancher needed oxygen -- well someone was re-filling these tanks. Hard to get away from that. I like your idea of passing through the area and the burial. Something I want to certainly take a closer look.

I've got some new leads and episodes we will be putting up soon. Have you seen the documentary, "Where is Robert Fisher?" It's on amazon prime, Netflix too. You might even find it on YouTube.

If this rancher really liked Bobbie, he went where he knew there was a poster and told that info to the clerk so she would report him dead. That is the planted info. Can't understand why anyone would do that tho.

Even if RF died on his ranch, I think the rancher is supposed to alert LE....otherwise isn't he committing a crime? Disposal of a body or something of the sort? Was Bobbie's dad still alive then? Could he have gone in that store to purposefully tell them his "friend" is dead to throw the investigation off? (Probably not but possible).

Does that store owner still remember what the rancher looked like? If he was on oxygen back then, he's probably deceased by now.

Can you go back to that date and search death notices in the state and connect them to actual grave sites? Rule out the ones in cemetery and possibly find at least a name to research that he could have been using. The burial site would have been listed as "private cemetery". Here in my state of Texas several family ranches have private cemeteries, but they have to be registered with the state.

Just a few random thoughts!!

 

[rob2237]

If this rancher really liked Bobbie, he went where he knew there was a poster and told that info to the clerk so she would report him dead. That is the planted info. Can't understand why anyone would do that tho.

Even if RF died on his ranch, I think the rancher is supposed to alert LE....otherwise isn't he committing a crime? Disposal of a body or something of the sort? Was Bobbie's dad still alive then? Could he have gone in that store to purposefully tell them his "friend" is dead to throw the investigation off? (Probably not but possible).

Does that store owner still remember what the rancher looked like? If he was on oxygen back then, he's probably deceased by now.

Can you go back to that date and search death notices in the state and connect them to actual grave sites? Rule out the ones in cemetery and possibly find at least a name to research that he could have been using. The burial site would have been listed as "private cemetery". Here in my state of Texas several family ranches have private cemeteries, but they have to be registered with the state.

Just a few random thoughts!!

Awesome ideas! I love the brainstorming. I think anything is a possibility.

These people living off the grid do so because they don't want to follow rules. There are nice folks I met up there but they value their privacy. Another reason I think Fisher liked the area. Maybe live off the land for awhile until he met up with someone? His sister said he didn't like to travel and knowing this area like he did he would feel comfortable staying around. I tried to explain how HUGE this area of land is in the Tonto National forrest in the podcast but I think its hard for people to still grasp what type of area it is. I'll admit -- I forgot how remote it was when I returned so many years later. I forgot I needed to be better prepared, water, food, gear. There is NOTHING around.

I think it was a very spur of the moment killing. Sure, he probably though this out for awhile in his head but that night of the fight, he snapped. Maybe Mary said she was divorcing him and that was that.

I see you are in the medical supply field? Did you know Mary worked in that business in Scottsdale? Fisher you know worked at the Mayo Clinic as a tech.

 

[mothwings]

With the news of FBI Top 10 Most-Wanted fugitive Yaser Said in custody tonight, I thought this deserves a bump.

Robert Fisher next?

 

[retrometro]

There are nice folks I met up there but they value their privacy. Another reason I think Fisher liked the area. Maybe live off the land for awhile until he met up with someone? His sister said he didn't like to travel and knowing this area like he did he would feel comfortable staying around. I tried to explain how HUGE this area of land is in the Tonto National forrest in the podcast but I think its hard for people to still grasp what type of area it is. I'll admit -- I forgot how remote it was when I returned so many years later. I forgot I needed to be better prepared, water, food, gear. There is NOTHING around.

I think it was a very spur of the moment killing. Sure, he probably though this out for awhile in his head but that night of the fight, he snapped. Maybe Mary said she was divorcing him and that was that.

I take a slightly different perspective here, which I offer just as tentative speculation:

If Fisher is still in the Tonto National Forest/Young area (or was there until he died at some point), it would ony makes sense to me if has/had at least one other person helping to conceal him. Yes, the area is huge, but there were severe wilfires and droughts in the early-mid 00s, and Fisher is known to have chronic back pain. And my my experience has been that although rural Arizonans value privacy, they do still talk to each other even if they don't talk to outsiders. For those reasons, I find the ranch scenario far-fetched (wouldn't he have been on someone's payroll? What about being recognized by other ranch-hands?). That having been said, I do think it's possible that a friend or relative has helped conceal him all these years or that he made connections who helped him change his identity.

 

[Ajai Baktar]

I don’t know about that. It seems like it would be very difficult to get someone to help and be complicit in a triple homicide with children involved. If anybody is helping him I bet they don’t know the story.

 

[retrometro]

I don’t know about that. It seems like it would be very difficult to get someone to help and be complicit in a triple homicide with children involved. If anybody is helping him I bet they don’t know the story.

I don't disagree. It would make a lot more sense if the person didn't know the story or believed a distorted version of it.

Speaking as someone who lived in Arizona for 20 years and has been to Gila County, I find it hard to believe that Fisher could have lived off the grid for almost 20 years without being noticed. 1-2 years I'd totally believe, and even 5 years seems sort of plausible, but there reaches a point when it becomes far-fetched.

 

[Ajai Baktar]

I don't disagree. It would make a lot more sense if the person didn't know the story or believed a distorted version of it.

Speaking as someone who lived in Arizona for 20 years and has been to Gila County, I find it hard to believe that Fisher could have lived off the grid for almost 20 years without being noticed. 1-2 years I'd totally believe, and even 5 years seems sort of plausible, but there reaches a point when it becomes far-fetched.

Probably was never there, other than to dump his truck and get a ride out.

 

[Richard]

Robert William "Bobby" Fisher
Age Enhanced Photo
On the FBI's 1o Most Wanted List

 

[Richard]

Fugitive Bobby Fisher

Does anyone else see a similarity between Fisher and actor Christopher Meloni?


As Detective Elliot Stabler, SVU

 

[Cryptic]

Have they checked with Interpol I think its called?? Did they send flyers of this murderer to International places. Such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, places like that.

Though I agree with the possibility of overseas flight, the immigration policies of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other gulf nations might reduce the chances of him going there.

Though there are millions of foreign workers in the region, my impression is that there are very few "loitering" foreigners. Rather, nearly all foreigners, however, seem to be there for a clearly defined purpose whether it is an often exploited un / semi skilled worker or highly educated engineer. Residency permits are said to be stringently enforced and deportations common.

Likewise laws governing expired tourist visas could well be actively enforced leading to "loiterers" getting identified and expelled. A quiet exception might be made for independently wealthy tourists who stay past their visas, but BF would not be in this category.