Banned for a George Bush T-shirt

[czechmate7]

I have no interest in discussing politics in the news of the bizarre. But I have a question.

The first post in this thread is that a man wearing an anti-bush t shirt is taken off the plane. He is removed for wearing something that makes a political statement, that is that he does not agree with or like GWB.

He is asked to remove it not becausethe t shirt is disrespectful to GW but because that is perceived in some way as security issue and something that could "affect the sensitivities of the passengers". That act in itself seems to have some "politics" in it, in the sense that what does the "sensitivities of the passengers mean?"

That statement moves it beyond a security issue into the arena of politics.

It used to be that sometimes threads were removed from one forum and placed in another. Not sure the circumstances but it seemed when the topic veered into another arena or some more social category.

The story fits the definition of bizarre news. It also fits the definition of politics. I'm not sure what "cross posting" means but would starting a thread on this story in the political forum be acceptable? Or would the thread have to be moved to the parking lot or some such?

I thought he was asked to remove the shirt due to its "terrorist" theme...didn't think it had anything to do with it being disrespectful to GW.
I think the "sensitivites of the passengers" means that they didn't want the others uncomfortable having some guy with terrorist insinuations on his clothing...I have to commend the airlines for looking after their other passengers! The guy can certainly fly another airline if he doesn't like their dress code.

 

[nanandjim]

...Courageous isn't a word I would use.

It is a word that I used. No one said that you had to follow suit and use it, too.

 

[windovervocalcords]

Ok, no worries.

No worries. Use whatever words you use.

 

[narlacat]

It is a word that I used. No one said that you had to follow suit and use it, too.

Fair enough.

You obviously use that word more lightly than I do, everyone's different.

 

[nanandjim]

...You obviously use that word more lightly than I do...

Uh huh...Whatever...

 

[narlacat]

Uh huh...Whatever...

Where would we be without emoticons :waitasec: :crazy:
The rolly eye one is one of my faves too! along with this one which I use all the time
Yeah, whatever but just to probably annoy you more- what was courageous about the airline not allowing this guy to wear the t shirt?

 

[angelmom]

Where would we be without emoticons :waitasec: :crazy:
The rolly eye one is one of my faves too! along with this one which I use all the time
Yeah, whatever but just to probably annoy you more- what was courageous about the airline not allowing this guy to wear the t shirt?

Not my conversation, but I'm going to jump in and say that with all of the lawsuits and crybabies whining about their rights, I think a lot of businesses including airlines might be gunshy about kicking someone off a plane for something with even the slightest tinge of political bias. I think it takes some guts to say, "No, that's not okay, even though we are probably going to get nailed in the media for it."

Why do people think that, just because they bought a ticket, they get to tell you how to fly the flippin' plane? There are other people around and, as the saying goes, your rights end at the tip of my nose.

We deal with this all of the time with private school parents thinking they are allowed to give orders at the school just because they pay tuition. Get over yourselves! Be a little respectful of others and quit trying to stir the $%*& all the time!

That goes for this grown man (who should know better but clearly doesn't), the high school kid, and his idiot parents who think a t-shirt depicting drug and alchohol abuse is appropriate for school (or anywhere!).

Don't you miss the days when people gave a hoot how they looked and would dress up a little to fly (or attend school)?

:blushing: Sorry, y'all can go back to your conversation now. I'm done.

 

[2sisters]

I think he was just trrying to get a rise out of people and be a poo starter and he succeeded. It is just another case of overseas America bashing.

 

[czechmate7]

I think he was just rtrying to et a rise out of people and be a poo starter and he succeeded. It is just another case of overseas America bashing.

I totally agree with you... IMO it doesn't matter who's in office here, people are going to find *something* wrong with our president and/or country and bash it...it's such a shame....(even worst if they are American!!)

 

[2sisters]

I totally agree with you... IMO it doesn't matter who's in office here, people are going to find *something* wrong with our president and/or country and bash it...it's such a shame....(even worst if they are American!!)

Exactly, if we ignored the middle east situation we would be jerks, if we go we are jerks. I am no big fan of the war mind you, but something has to be done about the situation over there. You can't win and personally I could care less what this guy thinks. Let him wear it, but next time he needs to look at his countries government and problem fisrt before taking on ours.

 

[czechmate7]

Exactly, if we ignored the middle east situation we would be jerks, if we go we are jerks. I am no big fan of the war mind you, but something has to be done about the situation over there. You can't win and personally I could care less what this guy thinks. Let him wear it, but next time he needs to look at his countries government and problem fisrt before taking on ours.

Could you imagine if Bush hadn't had done anything after 9/11...OMG....what an awful president.....kinda like the Katrina thing.. Bush didn't respond quick enough..............but when FEMA was sending out millions of $$ to folks scamming then it was because they were too hasty....geez....
I'm no fan of the middle east either, but I've been there, in the military, and I can tell you, the majority of our troops love this country and don't question our leaders and the decisions being made (leaders that are elected by *we the people*).
IMO, when Americans start all their anti-Bush crap it makes our country look weak...Granted, it's freedom of speech, yadda, yadda....but when our sons and daughters are in harms way the last thing we need to do is show the world how divided the US is by bashing our leader..IMO of course!!!

 

[narlacat]

I think he was just trrying to get a rise out of people and be a poo starter and he succeeded. It is just another case of overseas America bashing.

Um, it was a joke....you know like hahahahaha, and it's not so much America bashing as GW bashing, he asks for it- ya reap what ya sow....

 

[narlacat]

Exactly, if we ignored the middle east situation we would be jerks, if we go we are jerks. I am no big fan of the war mind you, but something has to be done about the situation over there. You can't win and personally I could care less what this guy thinks. Let him wear it, but next time he needs to look at his countries government and problem fisrt before taking on ours.

How do you know he doesn't?

 

[narlacat]

Not my conversation, but I'm going to jump in and say that with all of the lawsuits and crybabies whining about their rights, I think a lot of businesses including airlines might be gunshy about kicking someone off a plane for something with even the slightest tinge of political bias. I think it takes some guts to say, "No, that's not okay, even though we are probably going to get nailed in the media for it."

Why do people think that, just because they bought a ticket, they get to tell you how to fly the flippin' plane? There are other people around and, as the saying goes, your rights end at the tip of my nose.

We deal with this all of the time with private school parents thinking they are allowed to give orders at the school just because they pay tuition. Get over yourselves! Be a little respectful of others and quit trying to stir the $%*& all the time!

That goes for this grown man (who should know better but clearly doesn't), the high school kid, and his idiot parents who think a t-shirt depicting drug and alchohol abuse is appropriate for school (or anywhere!).

Don't you miss the days when people gave a hoot how they looked and would dress up a little to fly (or attend school)?

:blushing: Sorry, y'all can go back to your conversation now. I'm done.

No, not at all....
We don't dress up for school here, we have uniforms.
And if I'm going to sit on a plane for 24 hours I wanna be comfortable not worried about wrinkling my outfit or if I'm 'dressed' up enough..I dress down....hey where's my t shirt :crazy:

 

[halycon]

I just got back from Europe and everyone sympathized with our view. They like Americans but hate Bush and what he has done to our poor world.

 

[narlacat]

Could you imagine if Bush hadn't had done anything after 9/11...OMG....what an awful president.....kinda like the Katrina thing.. Bush didn't respond quick enough..............but when FEMA was sending out millions of $$ to folks scamming then it was because they were too hasty....geez....
I'm no fan of the middle east either, but I've been there, in the military, and I can tell you, the majority of our troops love this country and don't question our leaders and the decisions being made (leaders that are elected by *we the people*).
IMO, when Americans start all their anti-Bush crap it makes our country look weak...Granted, it's freedom of speech, yadda, yadda....but when our sons and daughters are in harms way the last thing we need to do is show the world how divided the US is by bashing our leader..IMO of course!!!

Makes me think at least some of you know the truth.

 

[nanandjim]

...when I went oversees years ago people disliked Americans...and GW wasn't Pres back then..

I agree. What bothers me is that there are posters who are not citizens of this country knocking it left and right. I can only imagine if I started knocking Canada or Australia, for instance. Do you think that their citizens would join in with the insults or do you think that they would join together and defend their homeland? It would be nice if the citizens of the U.S. would at least put their differences aside and join forces when the need arises.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

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