Benjaman Kyle - Those who still need investigation - WE NEED YOUR HELP!

[Earthbound Misfit I]

Post persons still needing investigation on this thread.

Side by Side Photo Comparison Thread:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55629

Those who still need investigation:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60373

Link to thread for those who can be ruled out for sure.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60335

Link to thread for those who CANNOT be ruled out as BK:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59719

Link to gmail document with the most up to date information regarding possible matches and the work that still needs to be done:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcbh2vh8_11sc9wwrgg

Link to Benjaman Kyle Discussion Thread
50/60 year old Amnesia Victim Savannah, GA Thread #3 (

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[Earthbound Misfit I]

POST #2

AZ- Charles Martin Russell (KTCan#2#278) Too short
http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/russell_charles.html
AZ- Donald Kenneth Shelberger (KTCan#2# 278) ?
http://charleyproject.org/cases/s/shelenberger_donald.html
AZ- Douglas Alan Mueller (KTCan#2#278) Too Tall, Blond Hair
http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mueller_douglas.html

CA- Gary David Poole (concernedperson#1#553) Too Tall
http://www.nampn.org/cases/poole_gary.html
CA- John Dean Rescorle (snarky malarkey#2#283)?
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rescorl_john.html
CA- Larry Michael Wood (KTCan#2#260)?
http://charleyproject.org/cases/w/wood_larry.html

POST #3

CA- Mark Lane Smith (KTCan#1#229) ?
http://charleyproject.org/cases/s/smith_mark.html


POST #4

CA- William Herbert Pear (KTCan#1#119)?
http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=4819314830473
CO- Eugene Fish (Sable#2#91) I think he can be ruled out because his fingerprints are most likely on file and would have been checked against Benjaman's?
http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t6193.html


Post #5


IA- Charles Elmquist (kaylenbabysims#1#176) Physical Disability??
http://www.iowaonline.state.ia.us/mpic/Controller.aspx?cmd=personDetailCommand&id=39

POST #6

IA- Ronald L. Zellmer (kaylenbabysims#1#177) ?
http://www.iowaonline.state.ia.us/mpic/Controller.aspx?cmd=personDetailCommand&id=245
IA- Timothy A. Felton (aj1020#1#148) ?
[URL="http://www.iowaonline.state.ia.us/mpic/Controller.aspx?cmd=personDetailCommand&id=19"]http://www.iowaonline.state.ia.us/mpic/Controller.aspx?[/URL]cmd=personDetailCommand&id=19
Note: I haven't found a photo for Timothy A. Felton yet. I will hunt for him.

POST #9

ME- Judd Miller (Gina M#2#109) Platnium Blond Hair
http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/miller_judd.html

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

POST #10

MO- Mark Anthoney Maty (Angie4b1g#1#46) His DNA is available so when Benjaman's DNA is put through CODIS (If it hasn't been already)their DNA will be compared for a match.
http://www.jcsd.org/Missing.htm
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1006dmmo.html <--This site lists that his DNA is available.

NC- Kenneth Raynor Childress (Gina M#2#104) ?
http://icaremissingpersonscoldcases....Childress.html


POST #11

NJ- Sigfried Woelki (Mark Franzeo#2#284) ?
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1205dmnj.html


POST #12


NY- Michael Scott McLaughlin (KTCan#2#259) blond hair
http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mclaughlin_michael.html
NY- Samuel Arthur Todd (KTCan#2#259) He has two small scars on his left cheek near his eye.
http://charleyproject.org/cases/t/todd_samuel.html
NY- Steven Norman Chait (KTCan#2#259) ?
http://charleyproject.org/cases/c/chait_steven.html

POST #14

OH&#8211; John Koziatek (MarkFranzeo#2#284) ?
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1066dmoh.html


POST #15

OR- Corwin Charles Osborn (KTCan#1#229) ?
http://charleyproject.org/cases/o/osborn_corwin.html

PA- Michael Jose Malinoski (KTCan#2#259) ?
http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/malinoski_michael.html

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

POST #18

IN or OH - Jim Barry or Jim BERRY ?
http://www.cyberpages.com/minidb?pro...ion=showrecord (GinaM#2#289)

POST #24

CA - Mark Wendell Wilson (Salem- Photo thread post #23) ?
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/468dmca.html

 

[believe09]

he has brown eyes...
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1120dmco.html

 

[believe09]

too short 5'8"...
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200503385S

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

We all know that most people get shorter as we age, if someone went missing in 1996 and was listed as 6'1" when they went missing could they have lost enough height to have ended up at BK's height when he was found in 2004 or would you rule the 6'1" person out as being BK?

I'm talking about Gary David Poole who is one of the possibles for being BK. So far he is too tall to be BK and is listed as having hazel eyes but I don't want to rule out on just eye color alone because they can look completely different at different times.

What do you all think??

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

POST #2


AZ- Douglas Alan Mueller (KTCan#2#278) Blond hair, Too Young (he would be about 50 now)
http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mueller_douglas.html

 

[believe09]

Can we have a think about how to go about this? We could divy up the list, call LE and anyone who already have fingerprints on file would be out. Then maybe dentals...Thoughts??

 

[Fairy1]

POST #2


AZ- Douglas Alan Mueller (KTCan#2#278) Blond hair, Too Young (he would be about 50 now)
[URL="http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mueller_douglas.html"]http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mueller_douglas.html[/URL]

RKnowley - please, please, please don't discount Mueller based on age and hair color. Of all side-by-sides - I believe Douglas and BK bear the most striking resemblance. As I've mentioned, hair color - particulary blonde - changes over time. Look at the nose and chin. I realize that Douglas may seem too young. But if you consider what may have taken place in the 32 years or so since Douglas went missing, it is possible. I wish there was more info on Douglas. The only other possible match I would consider is:
http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=4819314830473

 

[christine2448]

RKnowley - please, please, please don't discount Mueller based on age and hair color. Of all side-by-sides - I believe Douglas and BK bear the most striking resemblance. As I've mentioned, hair color - particulary blonde - changes over time. Look at the nose and chin. I realize that Douglas may seem too young. But if you consider what may have taken place in the 32 years or so since Douglas went missing, it is possible. I wish there was more info on Douglas. The only other possible match I would consider is:
http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=4819314830473

The pic does 'strike' me.

I haven't had a chance to see you all compare the both. Do you have a comparison done, pic and stats side by side? If so, what post...I know, I know, :slap: but I'm tired and wanted to have a quick peek if you already have it done and I was too lazy to read back right now....I trying to goooooo. LOL!

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

I DID NOT discount Mueller. If you look you will see that he is still on the thread for those who still need investigation. He also still has the by his name meaning "He still needs investigation." ALSO, if you look it you can see that I said that I was putting Douglas back in the mix to be considered as BK. Also, he has not been added to the "Those you can rule out for sure thread." ALSO, if you look at the document I made with the most up to date information on those who have and have not been ruled out you will see that Douglas is still listed as one who still needs investigation. Douglas has NOT been ruled out by anyone.

RKnowley - please, please, please don't discount Mueller based on age and hair color. Of all side-by-sides - I believe Douglas and BK bear the most striking resemblance. As I've mentioned, hair color - particulary blonde - changes over time. Look at the nose and chin. I realize that Douglas may seem too young. But if you consider what may have taken place in the 32 years or so since Douglas went missing, it is possible. I wish there was more info on Douglas. The only other possible match I would consider is:
http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=4819314830473

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

Christine,

See the photos thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55629

POST #2 is where you will find Douglas Alan Mueller.

 

[christine2448]

Christine,

See the photos thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55629

POST #2 is where you will find Douglas Alan Mueller.

OH yeah, thanks, that jogged me, seeing the pics like that. Dang, yes, that certianly needs more inv. if we just go on looks.

Thanks! RK. Fairy, thanks!

When do you all sleep???

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

I'm sleeping now...shhhh, you will wake me :innocent:

OH yeah, thanks, that jogged me, seeing the pics like that. Dang, yes, that certianly needs more inv. if we just go on looks.

Thanks! RK. Fairy, thanks!

When do you all sleep???

 

[Fairy1]

POST #2


AZ- Douglas Alan Mueller (KTCan#2#278) Blond hair, Too Young (he would be about 50 now)
[URL="http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mueller_douglas.html"]http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mueller_douglas.html[/URL]

Sorry - this looks like a "discount" to me. Maybe I misunderstood. In any case, I think it's a good match and 90% of the others can be discounted IMO. BK has some very pronounced features - that's what I'm looking at. The other physical characteristics are a match and the only other thing that could sway me is geographical difference. But then again, we live in a very mobile society and it's not that much of a stretch. 32 years is a long time.

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

Yesterday, 03:43 PM
RKnowley

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Putting Douglas back into the mix to be considered as being BK

POST #2


AZ- Douglas Alan Mueller (KTCan#2#278) Blond hair, Too Young (he would be about 50 now) Too Tall at 6'1"
http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mueller_douglas.html
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[Earthbound Misfit I]

Even though Douglas hasn't been ruled out, the reasons for why he could be ruled out appear in red next to his name. I am noting any differences that we have come up with between Douglas & Benjaman. If a remains by a name it means he hasn't been ruled out and also if he doesn't appear on the thread for those we can rule out for sure then he hasn't been ruled out for sure.

 

[Fairy1]

Even though Douglas hasn't been ruled out, the reasons for why he could be ruled out appear in red next to his name. I am noting any differences that we have come up with between Douglas & Benjaman. If a remains by a name it means he hasn't been ruled out and also if he doesn't appear on the thread for those we can rule out for sure then he hasn't been ruled out for sure.

Ok - so what do we need to do to rule them out? Both have limited details. Douglas has been missing for a long time.

I recently proposed possible match on another missing/jane doe and the Doe Netowrk contact turned out to be the missing women's daughter!!! I don't know about Douglas or William. I just wish there were more details.

What do we do RKnowley? I am new at this.

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

I wonder if Douglas Mueller's family have had his/their DNA entered into CODIS? If anyone wants to contact the Scottsdale Police and asked them if the DNA is in CODIS, that would be great. Also, Douglas' information says his Dental X-rays are available. I wonder if Benjaman's dentals are available? If Douglas were Benjaman then perhaps the dentals would match up somewhat though a lot of time has passed and BK most likely would have had work done at some point?

This is the contact information for the Scottsdale PD and Douglas's case # is also listed.

CONTACT
Agency: Scottsdale (AZ) Police Department
Phone Number: (480) 312-5000
Case Number: 77-03053