CA CA - Los Angeles, HispMale, 14-20, UP4371, Drowned in swimming pool, "Michael", 30 July 1980

[Grungster]

Did you also happen to discuss the inconsistencies in dates found?

I never even knew of any…but I think he was probably found on the 30th

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Bumping up for "Michael." This case bothers me.

 

[meanmaryjean]

So, not much of a friend if he only knew his first name and nothing else about him!

This friend needed to be questioned more. How did he know Michael, where did he meet him? What were the doing at the pool and what time did they get there...?

Another LE ball fumble....and drop.

You are assuming none of that was done.

 

[Grungster]

You are assuming none of that was done.

No. She was just curious. There is almost NOTHING known about the investigation so how would she know if a proper investigation was done? (not necessarily by the coroner - they aren't really in charge of law enforcement investigations and they seem to care about identifying him based on my experience with them).

 

[ipa]

Open face gold crown = often seen mostly from dental work in Mexico, fwiw

 

[Hochman]

Have you seen this child? John Los Angeles Doe 1980

Missing From: Los Angeles, CA. Missing Date: July 30, 1980. On July 30, 1980, an unidentified male was found submerged in a public swimming pool, at 127 South Gless Street in Pecan Park in Los Angeles, California. It is believed John Doe had been deceased for less than 24 hours prior to...

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Larger version of recon

 

[Bit of hope]

Have you seen this child? John Los Angeles Doe 1980

Missing From: Los Angeles, CA. Missing Date: July 30, 1980. On July 30, 1980, an unidentified male was found submerged in a public swimming pool, at 127 South Gless Street in Pecan Park in Los Angeles, California. It is believed John Doe had been deceased for less than 24 hours prior to...

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I'm wondering about the dent in his chin. They talk about two scars but not on his chin. Did he hit his chin when he went into the pool, did somebody hit him? Was it a fresh wound?

 

[Bit of hope]

Maybe he was Cuban? In the 1980 exodus, most of them arrived in Florida, though.

Mariel boatlift - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Mariel boatlift (Spanish: éxodo del Mariel) was a mass emigration of Cubans who traveled from Cuba's Mariel Harbor to the United States between 15 April and 31 October 1980. The term "Marielito" (plural "Marielitos") is used to refer to these refugees in both Spanish and English. While the exodus was triggered by a sharp downturn in the Cuban economy, it followed on the heels of generations of Cubans who had emigrated to the United States in the preceding decades.

I think also maybe we should swelling of the face keep into consideration looking at the recon. Especially the lips?

It's so terribly hard to find a match in general because of the lack of data.

I want to introduce you to this great list of missing migrants in the USA or at border crossings, from all kind of resources shattered over the Internet. It's made by our fellow sleuths @citizen_sleuth (Bravo, phenomenal, I applaud you!!) As you can see (you have to put in a filter) there are not many people listed that went missing in or before 1980, let alone finding pictures or stats.

Missing on the Border

docs.google.com

That said, he might have been born in the USA or taken by his parents when he was young. Maybe he and his family were living illegal in America, what would make it hard for the family to come forward. It was 1980....a very different time..maybe somebody knows more about the situation (bordercrossing and the illegal status) in those years.

 

[Hochman]

I'm wondering about the dent in his chin. They talk about two scars but not on his chin. Did he hit his chin when he went into the pool, did somebody hit him? Was it a fresh wound?

It likely isn't a scar. I think it's a cleft chin.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Bumping up case.

 

[Sweetluv]

Jumping into a pool fully clothed with sneakers on !!??
This (friend) cannot tell LE what the UIDs name or age is ?
I think he needs to be reinterviewed...

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Jumping into a pool fully clothed with sneakers on !!??
This (friend) cannot tell LE what the UIDs name or age is ?
I think he needs to be reinterviewed...

Yes, but unfortunately this case is over 4 decades old, they probably no longer have access to his remains or the friend, so I don't think it will ever get another serious look by LE. JMO.

 

[Sweetluv]

July 30, 1980...thinking of this young man!