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JOHN DOE #85-17B / 85-0389

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JOHN DOE #85-17B / 85-0389​


On 4/15/1985, the body of a man was found at the Ferma Corporation dump site in Mountain View. The body was likely excavated near the barge near old Dumbarton bridge in Menlo Park and dumped by a Ferma Corporation truck.

Description of Remains:​

Gender: Male
LKA: 6 months-2 years
Age: Adult, 22-28 years old
Height: 5’7”-5’8”
Ancestry: European descent
Hair: Unknown
Eyes: Unknown
Weight: Medium build
Clothing: “Moving on” brand blue jeans, blue socks
DNA to DOJ: No
Mountain View: 85-2533
Menlo Park: 85-1530
COD: Undetermined (Decomposing partial remains)
Manner: Undetermined

If you have information regarding the identification of this person, please contact:
San Mateo County Coroner's Office
Telephone: (650) 312-5562
 
Now in NamUs as #UP105015.

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ME/C Case Number 85-389

Sex Male
Race/Ethnicity White/Caucasian
Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years) 22-28
Estimated Year of Death 1983-1984
Estimated PMI 6 Months
Height 5' 7"-5' 8"(67-68 inches), Estimated
Weight Cannot Estimate

Type Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found April 15, 1985
NamUs Case Created June 29, 2023
Location Menlo Park, California 94025
County San Mateo County
Found On Tribal Land No

Circumstances of Recovery The remains were discovered while material from the Dumbarton bridge excavation site in Menlo Park was being sorted through at the Ferma Corporation dump site on Crittenton Road in Mountain View. The material from the Dumbarton bridge excavation may have been on a barge for several days or a week prior to being transported to the Ferma Corporation dump site. Estimated post-mortem interval 6 months to 2 years.

Inventory of Remains
Head not recovered
One or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Partial remains with soft tissues

Hair Color Other
Body Hair Description Reddish-brown hairs of moderate length found on the remaining skin of the left thigh.
Left Eye Color Unknown
Right Eye Color Unknown

Clothing
"Movin-on" brand blue jeans
Blue socks

Other
Part of a package of Marlboro cigarettes and wad of papers were found in the back pocket of the jeans.
 
This UID is currently being looked into as a match for Farren Stanberry (though the timing is off)

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The coroner is currently trying to ascertain whether the remains were buried or cremated in order to extract DNA. Even if it's not him if DNA is extracted it could match to another missing person so that's positive news.
 
Ciriii57 said:
This UID is currently being looked into as a match for Farren Stanberry (though the timing is off)

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.
www.namus.gov

The coroner is currently trying to ascertain whether the remains were buried or cremated in order to extract DNA. Even if it's not him if DNA is extracted it could match to another missing person so that's positive news.
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I realised I never posted this here and I should have! Back in, like, August I asked the Coroner what was in the "wad of papers" and she responded:
I looked into the "wad of papers" and per our records these included wet tissues, packet material, and a California State tax stamp. They did not seem to be noteworthy or helpful in identifying the decedent at the time. Additionally a Marlboro 100 box was found in the pocket. These were released to the police department at the time of the examination.
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Nothing so helpful as a name and address I'm afraid lol
 
Many Doe's in CA were cremated, and in the days before DNA was known to be what it is now, sometimes a bone or tissue that would contain DNA wasn't saved or was misplaced or lost later. It's hard to impossible to get DNA from cremains, nowadays anyway.
 
summergirl1 said:
Many Doe's in CA were cremated, and in the days before DNA was known to be what it is now, sometimes a bone or tissue that would contain DNA wasn't saved or was misplaced or lost later. It's hard to impossible to get DNA from cremains, nowadays anyway.
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I think there's a strong chance he was cremated, but there's always hope! My main hope is that since they found hair on a thigh that some bright spark decided to keep the hair, and presumably skin tissue it was attached to, and it's still....somewhere haha
 
Amazing news! Recieved this from the Coroner. I had originally submitted this to be compared to Farren Stanberry, but even if it's not him I'm happy that someone might get their name back and a family might get peace.
Good Morning,

I actually confused this case with another. We were able to confirm that the body was buried and recently had it exhumed. We’ll be sending a sample off to DOJ to run DNA and compare it to Mr. Stanburry.

The results typically take several weeks to a couple months. I’ll keep you posted once results are returned.

Take care,
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Ciriii57 said:
Amazing news! Recieved this from the Coroner. I had originally submitted this to be compared to Farren Stanberry, but even if it's not him I'm happy that someone might get their name back and a family might get peace.
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Good news that he wasn’t cremated like most does in California are. That means getting a dna sample should be possible.
 

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It's interesting he had been reported missing and was even listed on the Doe Network. All that was needed was to exhume him and get his DNA. It often takes genetic genealogy to solve cases like this. But this case is a good reminder that just exhuming or finding sources to get DNA from can also solve older cases. That's why it's especially sad that some older remains were cremated and nothing saved to get DNA from, as so far, it's basically impossible to get DNA from ashes.
 
His case does have several similarities, in passing, to Farren Stanberry's case mentioned above. Farren also is said to have last been seen leaving for work, and it has sometimes been speculated that Farren may have been despondent over something and jumped off a bridge, too. In the Bay Area, that can be an obvious way to commit suicide. Brian's remains having been found with material from a bridge excavation site fits with how he stated he was going to commit suicide. His case has been solved, but Farren's case still remains a mystery..
 

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