Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #6 *both parents arrested/charged*

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BBM

Does this statement coincide with the ages of the two boys in pictures of them that we have seen?
Do the photos of the 2 boys seem to be about 2 and 3 years old when they were first shown to us around Dec 21+?
That was the biggest clue, IMO. It could point to the possibility no one has seen the boys over the past year.

But IIRC, LE said the Grandmother last saw them recently, maybe in December? So either they are trying to prove that sighting out. Or they are looking for signs of decline in health over the past year maybe?
 
  • #242
I had such a realistic dream last night that these boys were finally found (in a shallow grave, buried together, mostly skeletal remains) that I had to come here and see if it was actually a dream or if it happened.

May today be the day. :(
 
  • #243
I had such a realistic dream last night that these boys were finally found (in a shallow grave, buried together, mostly skeletal remains) that I had to come here and see if it was actually a dream or if it happened.

May today be the day. :(
I hope so TTF14! No matter how sad it would be, I think we all know we’re not looking at finding those precious boys alive. But at least finding them would bring justice, swiftly and harshly hopefully. MOO
 
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I do have a feeling though that whoever did this their time is running out. I really do think that they are going to have an arrest soon.
 
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I hope so TTF14! No matter how sad it would be, I think we all know we’re not looking at finding those precious boys alive. But at least finding them would bring justice, swiftly and harshly hopefully. MOO
Yes!! I can’t WAIT until those sweet, innocent little boys get justice .
 
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I had such a realistic dream last night that these boys were finally found (in a shallow grave, buried together, mostly skeletal remains) that I had to come here and see if it was actually a dream or if it happened.

May today be the day. :(
I think this is going to be bigger, much bigger than just these two precious tikes.

Time will tell

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #247
I think this is going to be bigger, much bigger than just these two precious tikes.

Time will tell

Amateur opinion and speculation

I agree. The exploitation and corruption in the foster care/adoption pipeline is ripe for a huge news story. These boys are just the tip of the ice berg.
 
  • #248
EmCaaROK


05Cl9lki


Hard to tell without knowing the dates of the photo's. But it seems as if Orrin is much slimmer in the bottom photo. Natural loss of chubby cheeks as he got older?
 
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EmCaaROK


05Cl9lki


Hard to tell without knowing the dates of the photo's. But it seems as if Orrin is much slimmer in the bottom photo. Natural loss of chubby cheeks as he got older?
I think he looks older in the top picture.
 
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05Cl9lki


Hard to tell without knowing the dates of the photo's. But it seems as if Orrin is much slimmer in the bottom photo. Natural loss of chubby cheeks as he got older?
I think the bottom one may be him older and he definitely looks sunk in in the face.
MOO
 
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EmCaaROK


05Cl9lki


Hard to tell without knowing the dates of the photo's. But it seems as if Orrin is much slimmer in the bottom photo. Natural loss of chubby cheeks as he got older?

Or hunger.
 
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I think the bottom one may be him older and he definitely looks sunk in in the face.
MOO
Was the picture on the bottom the one provided by the bio mom? I think LE would have used the more recent of the two for the original missing person's poster.
 
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Was the picture on the bottom the one provided by the bio mom? I think LE would have used the more recent of the two for the original missing person's poster.
I'm not sure tbh, I want to say the ones the bio mom provided the boys looked younger and healthier. I think the ones we have were they look worried and thinner are from the AP's. I mean it just blows my mind that these are all the pictures they have shared. I really dont think they took any recent pictures at all. Which speaks volumes.
MOO
 
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I'm not sure tbh, I want to say the ones the bio mom provided the boys looked younger and healthier. I think the ones we have were they look worried and thinner are from the AP's. I mean it just blows my mind that these are all the pictures they have shared. I really dont think they took any recent pictures at all. Which speaks volumes.
MOO
The parents only supplied the pictures that LE used in the missing persons poster. All the other pictures are either from the bio mom or the extended family, as far as I know. They said they had more recent pictures but never showed them to the media.
 
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https://local.nixle.com/alert/8430624/
DAY 1... 1 pic of ORRIN picture wearing yellow shirt.

FBI interviewing adoptive parents of missing California City boys | KGET 17
DAY 2 - Only picture of Orson added

Still trying to determine what date the thinner picture of Orrin was shown publicly and by whom.
It definitely didn't appear until later and I'm pretty sure it didn't come from the parents. There was also a picture of all the kids together at the restaurant which I think the extended family provided. That may have been around the time of the adoption. Orrin looked close to the age he looks in the thinner picture, I thought. I don't know where to find it now. Orson looks about the same in every picture with his cute little chubby cheeks. I didn't think either one looked underweight.
 
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https://local.nixle.com/alert/8430624/
DAY 1... 1 pic of ORRIN picture wearing yellow shirt.

FBI interviewing adoptive parents of missing California City boys | KGET 17
DAY 2 - Only picture of Orson added

Still trying to determine what date the thinner picture of Orrin was shown publicly and by whom.

Found it! 2nd picture of Orrin shows up for the first time in the West statement on 1/3/2021.
FIND OUR MISSING BOYS — ORRIN AND ORSON WEST (OFFICIAL WEST FAMILY STATEMENT)
 
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It definitely didn't appear until later and I'm pretty sure it didn't come from the parents. There was also a picture of all the kids together at the restaurant which I think the extended family provided. That may have been around the time of the adoption. Orrin looked close to the age he looks in the thinner picture, I thought. I don't know where to find it now. Orson looks about the same in every picture with his cute little chubby cheeks. I didn't think either one looked underweight.

Found it! West family statement on January 3rd. See my post above for link
 
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Found it! West family statement on January 3rd. See my post above for link
Thanks, I was just looking at it again. They look cute in all the pictures. I wish the family had said when they were taken.
 
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