CA CA- Silver Strand Beach, Oxnard, Ventura County John Doe, #UP15150, skeletal remains, May, '84, DNA- Donald Scott Reich, born December 16, 1944, 2025

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''In May 1984, the skeletal remains of an unidentified individual were found on Silver Strand Beach in Oxnard, California. The Ventura County Sheriff's Office responded and began collecting evidence and investigating. Investigators located a human mandible (jaw bone) with intact teeth. It was determined that the skeletal remains belonged to an adult man, between the ages of 19 and 99 years old. In 2006, a traditional STR DNA profile was developed for comparison to missing persons and entered into CODIS, but no matches were returned.

Despite a lengthy investigation, the man could not be identified and he became known as Ventura County John Doe. Details of the case were entered into the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) as UP15150.

In an effort to solve the decades-long mystery, in early 2025, the Ventura County Sheriff's Office submitted forensic evidence to Othram in The Woodlands, Texas where advanced DNA testing has helped to identify numerous individuals in California and beyond. Othram scientists successfully developed a DNA extract from the provided evidence and used its proprietary Forensic-Grade Genome Sequencing® (FGGS®) to build a comprehensive DNA profile for the man. Developed by Othram in Texas, more forensic genetic genealogy cases have been solved with Othram FGGS® than any other method.

This FGGS® profile was returned to law enforcement for a forensic genetic genealogy search, which yielded new information about the unknown man. A follow-up investigation was conducted leading investigators to a known case of a man who was killed at sea in 1978. Reference DNA samples were collected from a relative and compared to the DNA profile of the unidentified remains. This investigation led to the positive identification of the man, who is now known to be Donald Scott Reich, born December 16, 1944. Reich drowned in a boating accident in January 1978 and his body, which was missing a mandible, was recovered after being found along the rocks of a jetty about a month later.

At the time he went missing, 33-year-old Reich was a professional organist who had recently married and moved to Ventura County. He worked at the Wagon Wheel Junction complex in Oxnard, which was an entertainment complex that included a roller rink and restaurant. Reich owned a 23-foot boat that was in need of repair, and he met a mechanic at work who offered to help fix it after work. They two men were last seen at the harbor around 10:00 p.m. on a Sunday night. Investigators believe they took the boat out to test the engine and either ran out of gas or had an engine malfunction. They were reported missing that night and the Ventura County Sheriff's office and Coast Guard launched an air and sea search through the night that included a Sheriff's helicopter.

The next day, the wreckage of the boat was found strewn across Mandalay Beach, with pieces of the boat found over more than a mile of coastline. Investigators believe the boat lost power, drifted and got caught in the surf and was ripped apart by the sea and shore. The body of the mechanic, 20-year-old Mike Gay, was found by a helicopter floating about four miles offshore. Most of Reich's remains were found about a month later. His mandible was found on Silver Strand Beach six years later.

Individuals who have taken a consumer DNA test can aid ongoing forensic investigations by joining the DNASolves database. Expanding the number of available DNA profiles increases the likelihood of successful identifications, helping to reunite families with their missing loved ones and resolve cases that have remained unsolved for years.''
 
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“The two men were last seen at the harbor around 10 p.m. on a Sunday night,” deputies said, adding that they believe the men launched the boat to test its engine “and either ran out of gas or had an engine malfunction.” After the pair was reported missing, deputies said they along with the U.S. Coast Guard searched for them by air and sea. The boat’s wreckage was found scattered on Mandalay Beach the next day, “with pieces of the boat found over more than a mile of coastline,” the sheriff’s office said. “Investigators believe the boat lost power, drifted and got caught in the surf and was ripped apart by the sea and shore,” deputies said. Gay’s body was found four miles offshore, while “most of Reich’s remains were found about a month later,” deputies said. Oxnard is about a 60-mile drive northwest from Los Angeles.''

Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article312825684.html#storylink=cpy
 
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I'm trying to figure out how nobody put two-and-two together on this one regarding Mr. Reich, back in 1978. Recently married, boat missing (from where he usually kept it?) - but found destroyed on the shore. Reported missing. Didn't show up to work the next week?

Had the wife not moved to Ventura County yet? Didn't anyone contact the police about him missing from work, or his landlord.

Was the boat docked at the harbor (implying he paid rent), or did he keep it at his new home (in which case the boat, and the trailer he transported it were both missing.)

Or, maybe he lived in the boat at the harbor (there must have been rent that wasn't paid the next month.)

Did he have an organ at his home and other valuable musical gear that was left abandoned (would be moot point if it was all on his boat - because he lived there.)

Maybe the authorities always suspected it was Reich, but had a policy that requires a certain amount of physical evidence to make a formal declaration that wasn't fulfilled until the DNA match?

Any guesses on what's going on here?
 
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I'm trying to figure out how nobody put two-and-two together on this one regarding Mr. Reich, back in 1978. Recently married, boat missing (from where he usually kept it?) - but found destroyed on the shore. Reported missing. Didn't show up to work the next week?

Had the wife not moved to Ventura County yet? Didn't anyone contact the police about him missing from work, or his landlord.

Was the boat docked at the harbor (implying he paid rent), or did he keep it at his new home (in which case the boat, and the trailer he transported it were both missing.)

Or, maybe he lived in the boat at the harbor (there must have been rent that wasn't paid the next month.)

Did he have an organ at his home and other valuable musical gear that was left abandoned (would be moot point if it was all on his boat - because he lived there.)

Maybe the authorities always suspected it was Reich, but had a policy that requires a certain amount of physical evidence to make a formal declaration that wasn't fulfilled until the DNA match?

Any guesses on what's going on here?

I think you may be confused. His entire body minus the jawbone was found and identified in 1978. His jawbone was found in 1984 and identified in 2025.
 
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Oh, Ok. Thanks for the explanation - my bad for misinterpreting.

Do you think they suspected the mandible was Reich's all along, but couldn't prove it without the DNA comparison?
 
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Oh, Ok. Thanks for the explanation - my bad for misinterpreting.

Do you think they suspected the mandible was Reich's all along, but couldn't prove it without the DNA comparison?

I wouldn't assume so. If they did, they wouldn't have needed genetic genealogy to figure out who he was. They could have just done a direct/familial DNA comparison when the technology became available or, depending on the circumstances, dental records at the time of discovery.
 
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I wouldn't assume so. If they did, they wouldn't have needed genetic genealogy to figure out who he was. They could have just done a direct/familial DNA comparison when the technology became available or, depending on the circumstances, dental records at the time of discovery.
But, in investigating the jawbone why wouldn't they check their own records to find a case of recovered remains minus a jawbone - from six years earlier in the same general area (a few miles away - and still in the Oxnard Harbor District?)
 

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