Identified! Canada - Rosedale, Toronto, BlkFem (Afr mix), 4-7, in constr dumpster, PMI sum/fall'21, 2 May 2022 - Neveah Tucker

[Tealgrove]

I read that article yesterday and was horrified. Seriously, no arrest?

 

[Deleted member 19575]

I've been following this story. Another Neveah dead in a dumpster, is what I thought at the time.
It sounds a lot like the horrible case of Katelynn Sampson of Toronto, whose crack-head mother gave her to two "friends" as caregivers. Excerpt they were crack heads and abused and beat her to death, took her out of school and lied to everyone. They lied to social workers and no one followed up on WHY she wasn't in school. I knew this was probably another case of neglected toddlers with drug abuser parents, and various social agencies who don't communicate with each other. This has happened far too often in Toronto over the past 30 or so years:
Randall Dooley, abused to death
Katelynn Sampson
Jordan Hiekamp who starved to death at one month old
Melonie Biddersingh, the Girl in the Suitcase
Farah Khan, murdered and dismembered by her father and stepmother.

 

[Deleted member 19575]

This is a huge issue! And it's the same in Ontario. if you look on CanLii at the various cases involving Children's aid, even just if you peruse a random 10 cases they would likely all be from different jurisdictions (when I did this for Ontario anyways). and even within jurisdictions there will also be mulitiple different CAS organizations like a Catholic Children's Aid Society and say a Toronto Children's aid or Children's aid of North York etc.

To think that there hasn't been a major overhaul of this system is insane. Not to mention what would happen if someone who was dealing with Children's aid were to move provinces? I suspect there would be little if any follow up.

In the one Toronto Star Article written in response to the revelations about Neveah's case, it is mentioned that there was supposed to have been a database that would allow CAS (children's aid) to type in a name of a parent and see if they have a history elsewhere with Children's Aid. It seems like that database doesn't exist as it should, or that it is not being used.

If more people read the cases on CanLii I think they'd be horrified at the way the most vulnerable children in our society are being allowed to fall through the cracks for so long - or in Neveah's case entirely - (and these are the cases that get published that we can read about). It's really sad. It has to change.

I can't understand them returning her to the mother's custody when it seemed obvious she was incompetent and had too many kids to care for. What on earth made them think it was suitable? They didn't even mention in court that the kids were wandering around.
Really, check out CanLii! Just do a search of all the kids in recent years who were literally neglected to death.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I can't understand them returning her to the mother's custody when it seemed obvious she was incompetent and had too many kids to care for. What on earth made them think it was suitable? They didn't even mention in court that the kids were wandering around.
Really, check out CanLii! Just do a search of all the kids in recent years who were literally neglected to death.

My thoughts exactly. Where and when do mother's rights become nul and void?

 

[branmuffin]

I guess when it comes right down to it, the definition of murder is pliable. It's taut when there is obvious signs of serious injury: someone beat this child to death. It's less taut when the official cause of death is drowning: mom says she left the child in the bath for seconds while she attended to another child. It's as loose as a skipping rope when a child who's been transferred from pillar to post between the CAS and the parent and back again using the refrain that all children are better off with the mother when CAS knows that the cycle of abuse doesn't necessarily mean abuse in the physical sense but the abuse of neglect: can't remember if they were fed, don't know where they are, can't remember if they went to school that day, etc. etc. etc. There are two parties to this crime. I don't care how that child died. The CAS and the parent are both responsible for Neveah's death. You know, I've come to hate that name, Neveah. Heaven spelled backwards seems to be a warning sign that the child's parent is living a fantasy, that they dream of a child dressed up in party clothes and loved by all yet in the short time of that name's popularity, the number of children who are dead with that name is a red flag to me.

 

[musicaljoke]

My thoughts exactly. Where and when do mother's rights become nul and void?

First Nations kids seem to have better legal representation in court, and have a better mandate for their protection than do non First Nations kids. FN kids are represented in court by their own, independent lawyer, and in its judgement, the law takes into account the best interest of the child, rather than the rights of the parent. Had Nevaeh been a FN child, most likely, she would not have been returned to her mother.

The Family Services Act respecting First Nations, Inuit and Métis children, youth and families (Bill C-92) affirms the rights of First Nations to make their own child and family laws. The law came into effect in 2020.

The rest of us could learn from this.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I've also come to dislike that name. And frankly. it isn't really HEAVEN backwards. That would be NEVAEH.

 

[moonshoes]

I can't understand them returning her to the mother's custody when it seemed obvious she was incompetent and had too many kids to care for. What on earth made them think it was suitable? They didn't even mention in court that the kids were wandering around.
Really, check out CanLii! Just do a search of all the kids in recent years who were literally neglected to death.

When I started reading CanLii on a regular basis it really opened up my eyes to how terrible our children's aid system is in Canada. As you said, a simple search of CanLii will show you how often kids are put in unsafe situations over and over and over by the Canadian justice system. It's appalling.