"Casey Knows Where Caylee Is" Says CA

[Katana]

I think all of CA's statements were to divert attention away from the smell of the car. Keep in mind the day this was all going down, none of them could avoid the smell of that car. CA mentions the smell in the 911 call, but she was probably demanding answers from KC and repeating the fact that car smelled like a dead body. It wasn't only that KC knew where Caylee was but, that KC knew why the car smelled like a dead body. KC at this point probably thought she was busted which is why she didn't run with the kidnapping story in the first place. I'm sure the kidnapping senario didn't make sense to CA, but it at least took her attention off that car.

 

[Absolutely Addicted]

This was substantiated in one of the document dumps. I'm not 100% certain which it was or where, but it may have been in the emails that Cindy's mother, SP, sent to her sister.

But again, that would be subject to whatever Cindy told her mother...which might or might not be the same as what actually transpired "on the couch". I wonder if the therapist will be a witness?

 

[metalcrystal]

The reason Cindy and George didn't call the police earlier is because they had absolutely no idea where Casey was staying. That's why they couldn't request a welfare check on her. George had caught Casey coming and going once at their home on June 24 but the other times Casey had been back to the Anthony house, they were not home. She was avoiding her parents. The Anthony's only found out where Casey was staying after her car was impounded and as the owner of the car, Cindy was notified via certified letter. Cindy found AH's phone number in the car and she called AH. AH was at Florida Mall at the time and although Casey had told AH terrible things about her parents, AH realized that Cindy sounded desperate and something was indeed wrong - Cindy told her that if she couldn't get in touch with Casey, that Casey might have to be arrested, so AH agreed to let Cindy pick her up at the mall so AH could guide Cindy to AL's apartment. Until AH did this, neither Cindy nor George had any idea where Casey was living. It was obvious that the Anthony's were searching for Casey, however. Once at a nightclub, Casey told her friends she had to leave because she heard that Lee was on his way there and he was coming to get her and take her home.[/QUOTE]

Wonder where CL was that night

 

[eddeva]

This was substantiated in one of the document dumps. I'm not 100% certain which it was or where, but it may have been in the emails that Cindy's mother, SP, sent to her sister.

it does seem to have come from cindy's mother:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/...en_casey_cindy_revealed_in_new_documents.html

 

[Balthazar]

Again, it may be substantiated as something Cindy SAYS the counselor told her, but any counselor who would advise a client like this should lose their license.

I agree that theoretically, a counselor is not supposed to tell the client to do anything, their job is to enable the client/patient to reach their own conclusions and decisions, but in the real world, many counselors take on the role of advisor/life coach and specifically tell the client exactly what they should do. They should not do it, but unfortunately, it happens all the time.

 

[MomofBoys]

It always has seemed to me that CA and KC got into the fight on the 15th after Grandma pulled CA aside and told her about the stolen money. (That's just an assumption on my part)

So, CA, embarassed and furious, confronts Casey. Tells her she's going to press charges and when Casey's in jail, she'd get Caylee. She'd pursue custody.

Well, no way was Casey going to allow that. She has to get out in a hurry. But how? Tony didn't want Caylee with them, and Casey relished the role of Suzy Homemaker.

Casey kills Caylee and decides she can use their absence as emotional blackmail. Keep CA off-kilter and basically guilt her into not pressing charges. After all, CA adores Caylee. Seeing her even a day would be better than not seeing her at all. "Bring her back and I won't go to the police!" "One more day, mom."

I think CA was scared to death she'd never see Caylee again, but not because she was dead. She knew and had acknowledged that Casey was a "sociopath" and probably realized there was a good possibility that Casey would keep Caylee from her forever. I don't think she allowed herself to even imagine Casey would kill her little sunshine.

All CA knew is that Caylee was with someone other than her. Maybe with "the nanny" or a friend. I think she called a lot of Casey's friends hoping that one of them would say "Oh, Caylee's been here for weeks." To her, of course Casey would know where Caylee "is." Imagining the alternative was too awful.

I think Casey is an evil, narcissistic sociopath whose case should have the DP put back on the table. I think the Anthonys live and have lived in a state of incredible denial going back a long time. They certainly aren't perfect. I just don't think they started this whole saga in coverup mode. Lee, maybe.

 

[Balthazar]

it does seem to have come from cindy's mother:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/...en_casey_cindy_revealed_in_new_documents.html

Thanks for finding that! I was pretty sure that was how the story was substantiated, but could not find the link!

 

[Sammiejam]

CA most certainly did know Caylee was "missing" well before KC came out with the kidnapping story that night. She knew WEEKS before that night of July 15 that Caylee was gone/missing. Remember the myspace post of July 3rd?

It is obvious to me that CA suspected something terrible was going on way back then.

Ok, quoting myself to clarify what I meant...

CA knew Caylee was missing/gone from their lives (but not necessarily dead)

She suspected that KC was not going to allow them to see Caylee again.

And that is exactly what did happened...

 

[CourtsInSession]

Unfortunately, the laws do not allow people, relative or not, to interfere in the upbringing of a child by the legal natural parent. The LE would have referred CA/GA to call social services if they thought there was the need. Simply because KC refused to allow CA/GA contact with Caylee is not reason enough.

Doesn't make squat that a parent have or hasn't employment or where they live. As long as there is no proof of IMMEDIATE life threatening danger, LE will NOT interfere in a domestic dispute between the legal parent of a child and others. Simply saying to LE you suspect illegal activities are putting a child in danger, isn't enough. They require proof as stated in the legal code of the state.

Some LE will, if given enough information, follow through on a complaint or concern, but more often than not, they will simply give the number to social services for a complaint to be filed.

This is probably a dumb question, but, since Casey was under 21 when Caylee was born, could CA & GA have gotten custody of Caylee at that time?

 

[debs]

Originally Posted by eddeva
it does seem to have come from cindy's mother:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2...documents.html

Thanks for finding that! I was pretty sure that was how the story was substantiated, but could not find the link!

I am not saying it wasn't substantiated. What I am saying is that it is what CINDY says the therapist told her. I stand by my opinion that the therapist who says this to a client should have his/her license removed. I have read the same reports about Shirley saying this is what Cindy told her. I am saying I believe it is another example of Cindy HEARING something the therapist said and TWISTING it into something she wanted to hear. That is all.

 

[countzero]

This is probably a dumb question, but, since Casey was under 21 when Caylee was born, could CA & GA have gotten custody of Caylee at that time?

Not a stupid question. No, age isn't an issue with being the legal custodial parent.

 

[PaulaF513]

Yes, that fight must have been a doozey. And the counselor's "guidance" on trying to get custody and practicing tough love with Casey. I am always looking to fill in the missing pieces, which will undoubtedly come out during the trial.

Where did you hear that Cindy went to a therapist who told her to kick out Casey and obtain custody of Caylee? I haven't read that anywhere but in here. Now I know y'all are good at sleuthing, but where was that story originally found? In my opinion, a good therapist would never advise such definitive actions to a client. They would lead them through the issues until they themselves reached a decision.

 

[Balthazar]

Where did you hear that Cindy went to a therapist who told her to kick out Casey and obtain custody of Caylee? I haven't read that anywhere but in here. Now I know y'all are good at sleuthing, but where was that story originally found? In my opinion, a good therapist would never advise such definitive actions to a client. They would lead them through the issues until they themselves reached a decision.

Look on page 2 of this thread for the link to the article that substantiates this - the information came from Cindy Anthony's mother based on what Cindy told her. SP recounted the information to police.

Again, Debs is right, this is heresay coming from Cindy to her mom and then from her mom to police. We don't know exactly what the therapist told Cindy, only what Cindy told her mom the therapist allegedly advised her to do. I hope that when this case goes to trial, we will find out exactly what was said.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Where did you hear that Cindy went to a therapist who told her to kick out Casey and obtain custody of Caylee? I haven't read that anywhere but in here. Now I know y'all are good at sleuthing, but where was that story originally found? In my opinion, a good therapist would never advise such definitive actions to a client. They would lead them through the issues until they themselves reached a decision.

It was on one of the local TV stations there. They reported that Cindy said the therapist told her to make KC assume the responsibility for her actions and file for custody of she didn't.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

it does seem to have come from cindy's mother:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/...en_casey_cindy_revealed_in_new_documents.html

It was also on one of the stations where the newscaster said CA had told her that.