FL - Ava Hulett, 19, unexplained death at home after hospitalization following night out in Fort Myers - Estero, 19 Jun 2024

[ifindedout]

Sister of Hillsborough County teen shot, killed by classmate in 2019 dies, considered possible homicide

The family of a Hillsborough County teenager who was shot and killed by a classmate in 2019 is grieving again after losing another child, the family's attorney said Wednesday.

www.fox13news.com

Ava Hulett, 19, passed away over the weekend, although the circumstances surrounding her death are unclear.

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According to social media posts, Ava may have been with friends before her death. The Lee County Sheriff's Office confirmed deputies responded to a medical assistance call at Pelican Larry's Raw Bar and Grill after midnight. Later that day, deputies also responded to a home in Fort Myers regarding a 19-year-old who had passed away and was a patron at Pelican Larry's the previous evening.

"At this time, there is no indication that the staff at the business or its operations caused harm to their patrons," a sheriff's office spokesperson said in a news release.

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According to the death investigation report from the sheriff's office, detectives are treating Ava's case as a possible homicide.

Mystery as Florida teen dies in sleep at parent's home after night out

A Florida teenager has mysteriously died in her sleep at her parents' home after a night out at a bar in what officials have deemed a possible homicide case.

www.dailymail.co.uk

BBM
Ava Hulett, 19, was pronounced dead in her family's home in Estero, just hours after she was released from the hospital after an incident at Pelican Larry’s Raw Bar and Grill in Fort Myers early June 15.

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Hulett along with at least one friend were transported to the hospital for treatment while at Pelican Larry’s Raw Bar and Grill in Fort Myers early June 15.

Hulett was released from the hospital later that day, but would be found dead just hours later.

At about 12:20 pm, her mother found her unresponsive at home, according to Rickman.

 

[borndem]

I'm gonna have to read this one again to get it straight. Or maybe read it a third time...

 

[realanastasia]

Ava Hulett, 19, passed away over the weekend, although the circumstances surrounding her death are unclear.

[...]

According to social media posts, Ava may have been with friends before her death. The Lee County Sheriff's Office confirmed deputies responded to a medical assistance call at Pelican Larry's Raw Bar and Grill after midnight. Later that day, deputies also responded to a home in Fort Myers regarding a 19-year-old who had passed away and was a patron at Pelican Larry's the previous evening.

"At this time, there is no indication that the staff at the business or its operations caused harm to their patrons," a sheriff's office spokesperson said in a news release.

[...]

According to the death investigation report from the sheriff's office, detectives are treating Ava's case as a possible homicide.

BBM
Ava Hulett, 19, was pronounced dead in her family's home in Estero, just hours after she was released from the hospital after an incident at Pelican Larry’s Raw Bar and Grill in Fort Myers early June 15.

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Hulett along with at least one friend were transported to the hospital for treatment while at Pelican Larry’s Raw Bar and Grill in Fort Myers early June 15.

Hulett was released from the hospital later that day, but would be found dead just hours later.

At about 12:20 pm, her mother found her unresponsive at home, according to Rickman.

Unclear whether the friend also received medical treatment or just accompanied AH to the hospital from the bar/restaurant. Guessing she accidentally or intentionally ingested something that made her ill enough to have to go to the ER shortly afterwards, but that she either felt much better soon afterwards and asked to be discharged, OR the hospital declined to admit her. So it seems to me that either the hospital missed something that should have been monitored a little longer before her discharge, OR after returning home, AH ingested more of whatever caused rhe initial “incident” at the bar/restaurant and there was no one around to call 911 the second time.

 

[bombardier]

my best guesses for 'death several hours after hospitalization after 'incident' at a bar' are...
-ingestion event -> some kind of delayed overdose? (however youd think it would have presented while she was in hospital)
-severe intoxication -> respiratory depression due to alcohol or vomit aspiration (this imo is more likely due to how the body processes alcohol)
-severe intoxication -> fall at home -> death due to fall (unusual in a young person unless the house had open concept stairs or smth) or subsequent positional asphyxia
-physical injury -> subdural or subarachnoid hematoma
-physical injury -> causing delayed seizure -> vomit aspiration
and of course, COD not related to the hospitalization or the bar. she could have ingested a substance after the fact, had an underlying heart condition, etc

 

[ifindedout]

Authorities probe Estero teen's nightclub overdose while family mourns loss of second child

A Fort Myers woman faces charges after authorities took her into custody in connection with a nightclub overdose.

www.news-press.com

The father of a teenager who died last month following an overdose linked to a Fort Myers nightclub is mourning her loss, saying her brother's 2019 death impacted her, while the family waits for the toxicology results and the results of a criminal investigation.

Ava Hulett, 19, died June 15 from an apparent overdose after she gathered with friends at Pelican Larry's Raw Bar and Grill, in Fort Myers. She is the second sibling the family has lost since 2019 after her brother died aged 15 in 2019.

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In response to a public records request into Hulett's death, the Lee County Sheriff's Office provided an arrest report for Olivia Ein-Sun Fu, 22, who faces narcotics charges. Fu has not been formally charged in Hulett's death.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The father of a teenager who died last month following an overdose linked to a Fort Myers nightclub is mourning her loss, saying her brother's 2019 death impacted her, while the family waits for the toxicology results and the results of a criminal investigation.

Ava Hulett, 19, died June 15 from an apparent overdose after she gathered with friends at Pelican Larry's Raw Bar and Grill, in Fort Myers. She is the second sibling the family has lost since 2019 after her brother died aged 15 in 2019.

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In response to a public records request into Hulett's death, the Lee County Sheriff's Office provided an arrest report for Olivia Ein-Sun Fu, 22, who faces narcotics charges. Fu has not been formally charged in Hulett's death.

such complicated sorrow......
I just cannot imagine what families have to go through with such loss....

I know that the drugs epidemic has become so normalized in many ways....
but visiting and knowing many small towns and villages in America and seeing the ravaged communities.
it is just so unbearable...

 

[al66pine]

Possibilities?

my best guesses for 'death several hours after hospitalization after 'incident' at a bar' are...
-ingestion event -> some kind of delayed overdose? (however youd think it would have presented while she was in hospital)
-severe intoxication -> respiratory depression due to alcohol or vomit aspiration (this imo is more likely due to how the body processes alcohol)
-severe intoxication -> fall at home -> death due to fall (unusual in a young person unless the house had open concept stairs or smth) or subsequent positional asphyxia
-physical injury -> subdural or subarachnoid hematoma
-physical injury -> causing delayed seizure -> vomit aspiration
and of course, COD not related to the hospitalization or the bar. she could have ingested a substance after the fact, had an underlying heart condition, etc

@bombardier Thx for your post listing a wiiiide range of possible factors which may explain her CoD.
Sometimes it's easy to focus on one or two theories and close minds to any alternatives.

RIP Ava Hulett.

 

[caradana]

If the autopsy here reveals fentanyl, I hope that this tragic story becomes part of the public narrative around addressing an epidemic.

 

[airportwoman]

I remember an old "Dr. G" program where a woman about this age went out with her friends, and then returned to her grandmother's house, where she was living, and went to bed and never woke up. Yes, she was intoxicated, but the autopsy also revealed that she was pregnant (something her grandmother had not even suspected, and she may not have herself) AND she also had a fulminant case of bacterial meningitis! It simply killed her that fast.

I'm sure that's probably not what happened here, but I thought about that case when I read this story.

 

[airportwoman]

If the autopsy here reveals fentanyl, I hope that this tragic story becomes part of the public narrative around addressing an epidemic.

It was. (I looked it up after I got a "like" message.) RIP, Ava.

Authorities probe Estero teen's nightclub overdose while family mourns loss of second child

A Fort Myers woman faces charges after authorities took her into custody in connection with a nightclub overdose.

www.news-press.com

 

[Herat]

I wonder about Methanol poisoning.

It's been getting notice in SE Asia, where travelers are ingesting alcoholic drinks that have methanol contamination, usually because of homemake brews that either use methanol to substitute for ethanol, or the distilling process is not done properly and it produces methanol rather than the drinkable ethanol.

 

[airportwoman]

I wonder about Methanol poisoning.

It's been getting notice in SE Asia, where travelers are ingesting alcoholic drinks that have methanol contamination, usually because of homemake brews that either use methanol to substitute for ethanol, or the distilling process is not done properly and it produces methanol rather than the drinkable ethanol.

Unless she got into some homebrew, that's actually quite unlikely, in the developed world anyway.

 

[Linear13]

IF this was an overdose and she went to the hospital this might be a scenario of what happened and it is all too common. Narcan is a wonder drug but hospitals are bad to treat and release. This is one problem with hospitals and Narcan. The patient needs to be monitored for more than a short period of time. A patient comes in overdosing on an opiate. Usually the dosage amount (mgs) is unknown. So when Narcan is admistered it brings the patient instantly out of the overdose…but since the initial dose of opiates is often unknown and whether said opiate is a long or short acting opiate the patient can lapse back into the overdose after the Narcan wears off. Sometimes even when the initial dose is known the patient still will go back into overedose due to Narcan being a shorter acting drug. It doesn’t get rid of the opiate that is in the system it just stops the process of overdose. It is really a wonder drug. Yet the medical community has gotten lax about monitoring people who present with overdose. They want to treat them and cut them loose. Many times these patients have no insurance so the hospitals treat and release. Usually with a paper explaining how Narcan works and telling the person if they start feeling worse to come back. This is unacceptable. People like this girl who accidentally overdose are sometimes not even familiar with the drug they ingested. Perhaps this is the first time even taking it so they are not familiar with the mode of action of the drug. Maybe someone slipped her the drug…who knows. Most likely she went home, fell asleep and never woke up. The Narcan wore off sometime in the night and she went back into overdose. No one was there to monitor her.

 

[Tricia]

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