France - Mother & four children slain, buried in Nantes garden, 5 April 2011

[Florent B]

Was the mistress’ whereabouts ever determined? Did she come out of hiding sometime in the last 13 years? And what about that other woman that they talked about who was missing?

Before his disappearance, Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès tried to reconnect with several of his former girlfriends. For almost two years, the French LE searched for a German woman, Claudia. She was interviewed by investigators on April 16, 2013, but her testimony "added nothing to the case", according to the public prosecutor. A year before the crime case, XDDL sent a letter to one of his mistresses, Catherine. Then, he had borrowed 50,000 Euros from Catherine. Of course, he didn't pay back and later, she sent a bailiff to collect the money, and the bailiff arrived at the family home almost as XDDL was leaving. He found the door locked.
The Colette D affair is a French criminal case in which a woman, aged 50, was killed on April 14, 2011 in Lorgues, Var. Coincidentally, she was killed on the same day as XDDL's last night in a hotel in the area. But CD was killed by her ex-sister-in-law SF.

 

[AmandaSkis]

Thank you for this updated information. From what I recall, the mistress that he had borrowed the money from supposedly went into hiding.

And from the information that you wrote, it says that he wrote a letter to his mistress a year before he went missing. Why is that important? Is that when he borrowed the €50,000 that she wanted paid back?

Like others have suggested, it seems like he is having help from someone.

 

[Florent B]

Thank you for this updated information. From what I recall, the mistress that he had borrowed the money from supposedly went into hiding.

And from the information that you wrote, it says that he wrote a letter to his mistress a year before he went missing. Why is that important? Is that when he borrowed the €50,000 that she wanted paid back?

Like others have suggested, it seems like he is having help from someone.

It's not important for me at all. I replied to you. The existence of this letter is useful to suicide advocates, since he would have told her, a year earlier, that he wanted to end his life. Surely to get money from her. (People have never seen this letter). This need for money has to be seen in the context of XDDL's projects, not a depressed mood.

 

[Florent B]

The sister and brother-in-law of Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès, who have published a book at Harper Collins and are featured in all the media in France, it's causing quite a stir here. « Xavier, mon frère, présumé innocent » "Xavier, my brother, presumed innocent".

 

[ZaZara]

The sister and brother-in-law of Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès, who have published a book at Harper Collins and are featured in all the media in France, it's causing quite a stir here. « Xavier, mon frère, présumé innocent » "Xavier, my brother, presumed innocent".

We can all agree with Christine DDL that her brother is presumed innocent, because he legally is, but that is where the agreement ends. I have been reading a bit about the book and the claims of Christine.... how deep must one be in denial to state that the family are still alive and

The discovery of the bodies of Agnès Dupont de Ligonnès and her four children, buried under the terrace of the family garden in Nantes, was "a set-up" according to Christine Dupont de Ligonnès.

Apparently, Christine DDL has gone down a rabbit hole where forensic examinations and DNA no longer matter, and she won't be coming back soon, if ever.

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[Deleted member 235284]

Crazy to think he could still be out there. I tend to think he killed himself at one point though.

Still remember a few years ago not that many though there was that guy in Scotland who was held at the airport because it was flagged that he may of been him.

That was crazy think it was because they thought he was using a stolen passport or something turned out not to be true but that was crazy at the time when the news of taht broke and we all thought it had been solved.

Imagine being that innocent guy who was brought into this case for a short time.

 

[ekardh]

I wouldn't completely rule out suicide. A lot of people reject this theory for different reasons, such as Xavier being too narcissistic to take his own life, that he wouldn't have gone to such lengths to avoid detection and discovery of the bodies if he was planning to die. It's armchair psychology to broadly stereotype narcissists as unwilling to commit suicide when there is evidence to the contrary. I've read that for narcissists suicide is often driven by control and self-image, rather than depression. Suicide, in this case, could be seen as a final act of control: choosing to end their life on their own terms rather than face humiliation, failure, or incarceration. But again, this is a generalization.

It also presupposes that circumstances didn't alter Xavier's plans. The fact he tried to stage the 'perfect crime' does suggest that he wasn't planning to join his family. However, it's said that after the murders he tried to reconnect with some old flames. If that did not go the way he had hoped, and with no money or way back, he might have disappeared into the mountains to kill himself, hoping that no one would ever find his body (perfect crime).

You can see some parallels between Xavier and Chris Watts. Both of them were family men, stuck in unhappy marriages, facing financial ruin, feeling trapped, and the only way they saw fit to escape was to wipe out their family and start a clean slate. Thanks to the vigilance of Shannan's best friend, we never got to see how far Watts would've gone. What if his mistress had rejected him and he went on the run? He might have decided to kill himself rather than deal with the consequences.