GUILTY GA - Riceboro, WhtFemale, discovered in woods of the Portal Hunting Club, homicide, 2 Dec 2022 - Mindi Mebane Kassotis *husband arrested*

[Luna20]

Wow listening to his parents now and way to re-victimize the victim's families by gaslighting them. The jury reached a verdict in 1 hour and 15 minutes. Get real!

JMO

It must be a coping mechanism for parents to believe the worst of their children. There isn’t a logical explanation otherwise.

 

[Luna20]

I have a subscription.

JAG

Thank you for sharing.

 

[ch_13]

It must be a coping mechanism for parents to believe the worst of their children. There isn’t a logical explanation otherwise.

Watching the trial, I didn't see his brother (who is apparently a scientist of some note) in the courtroom. He had accused that brother of stealing his identity. I suspect that at least one member of that family is not fooled.

 

[fred&edna]

Watching the trial, I didn't see his brother (who is apparently a scientist of some note) in the courtroom. He had accused that brother of stealing his identity. I suspect that at least one member of that family is not fooled.

i heard or read somewhere that the blonde sitting beside nick's mom was brother's wife. whoever she was she was very upset during and after reading of the verdict... as if jury got it wrong. i actually thought she might speak before sentencing.

jmo

 

[Queen of the Winter Night]

What a wild read.

It makes sense he thought his delusional story would be believed. He has told lots of lies and delusional stories, and up until this point, people have believed him. I wonder if this is the first time - being told he is guilty in the courtroom - that someone finally told him to his face that they don't believe him.

Must be quite a shock at this advanced age compared to when most of us experience someone catching us in a lie at age 4 and we learn our lesson.

 

[healthyparanoia]

Not surprisingly, Kassotis has already filed a motion for a retrial. Hopefully it's rejected.

The paperwork is signed by another attorney, Katie Hingerty, who appears to maintain an affiliation with the Abt Law Firm (of which Doug Weinstein is a partner) while managing her own Hingerty Law Firm (on whose behalf she has filed the motion).

Did DW dump NK?

 

[ch_13]

Did DW dump NK?

Since Hingerty works at DW's firm, I doubt there was any "dumping," but DW's work for NK likely ended with the trial verdict.

Hingerty's bio says she specializes in appellate matters, so it probably makes sense to hand over the post-trial appeals to her.

 

[arielilane]

Ive been away. Glad the jury got it right. Quickest verdict I can recall. Well done.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

This has been crazy to follow. I tried transcribing the trial, but the audio was too long and rough for my tools. If anyone has a clean copy I'd love it.

The witness statements stand out; both evidential and impact. Think about who these people are, and what they should have known.

I don't buy the Jim story. There's some truth in it, with mentions prior to the trial going back years, but no solid evidence he exists. I think someone extorted him. Maybe "Jim" is Nick's 'story' of Heather. The name itself could matter, but I've found nothing concrete on Jim.

Even after the verdict, I don't think Nick killed Mindi, but I think he knows what happened - and I think he has a Hero Complex.

A lot of my OSINT digging lined up with what was argued in court. None of my long-shot theories have been ruled out yet, which is shocking.

My FOIA to GBI was denied because of the appeal. Still waiting on Doug.

If podcasters start digging in, reach out. I've been on this case since the very start, with extensive notes on Mindi, Nick, and most of the witnesses. At this point I could build the whole project myself.

What I don't have are the connections to make it real. This is the work I want to do for real - not just as a hobby. You can see this account learning in real time how to refine what I do. I want to be part of a podcasting team. I can research, write, narrate, edit, and turn audio into video. Every skillset you'd need for this kind of work, I've got it.

What I need now are people and teams who can look at my data, challenge it, and help shape it into something bigger. I want to learn the process, contribute, and push this kind of work forward. I'm ready anytime.

 

[PatLaurel]

I think someone extorted him.

When do you think that started to happen?

I don't think Nick killed Mindi, but I think he knows what happened

And yet he preferred the third party culprit defense strategy. I bet we will see Bigfoot photos taken with a proper camera and not a potato, before we hear from J McI.

None of my long-shot theories have been ruled out yet, which is shocking.

Can you share the ones that don't against WS rules?


MOO JMO

 

[jepop]

Since Hingerty works at DW's firm, I doubt there was any "dumping," but DW's work for NK likely ended with the trial verdict.

Hingerty's bio says she specializes in appellate matters, so it probably makes sense to hand over the post-trial appeals to her.

The motion for new trial includes several scanty points ( with no supporting reasoning whatsoever unless in an attachment?). One of them is "ineffective assistance of counsel" at all junctures, so my guess is that Hingerty is the one who had to file, rather than his trial lawyer DW who is himself accused in the motion. That Kassotis accuses his lawyer is no surprise imo.

At present I can't for the life of me decide what Kassotis' primary underlying problem is. Is he batshit mentally ill and delusional or a calculating but stupid psychopath. The dichotomy is probably false, at least I doubt it's that simple. But does he genuinely believe his own story or not I wonder. Wish he would allow himself to be assessed by a psychiatric professional. Jmo

Ebm, motion for new trial not retrial.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

When do you think that started to happen?


And yet he preferred the third party culprit defense strategy. I bet we will see Bigfoot photos taken with a proper camera and not a potato, before we hear from J McI.


Can you share the ones that don't against WS rules?


MOO JMO

JMO MOO

I think it started happening after the divorce with heather.

To be clear here my current stance here until/if/unless we see a hard piece of evidence for jim or something else somewhere to 'confirm' the whole story: Nick should be in jail. Nick is responsible for the death of Mindi, and the hurt that followed, and should pay that price. I think he disposed of the body.

Just after all the people I've personally talked with who know Nick, people who were in signal chats, I just don't think Nick would have hurt a fly. Nick sounds to me like someone who wants to 'save' as many people as he can.

People lie, but IMO there's key things about people that don't change.

If this is something you can 'mask' away from or to the world, that scares the hell out of me.
I wear tons of masks. That mask shouldn't be possible to exist.

So that brings us back to theorizing which I'm not going to post on, just results in my posts being removed. I will just say, in every theory I have, there has to be a 3rd party. This trial added at least one new theory as well.

I'm absolutely 100% convinced there is more here than Nick wanted to leave Mindi because he met Sam so he killed Mindi and thought it'd all just go away.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

At present I can't for the life of me decide what Kassotis' primary underlying problem is. Is he batshit mentally ill and delusional or a calculating but stupid psychopath. The dichotomy is probably false, at least I doubt it's that simple. But does he genuinely believe his own story or not I wonder. Wish he would allow himself to be assessed by a psychiatric professional. Jmo

I'm playing a hard devil's advocate here, mainly because I want to know what other people actually think about some of the random thoughts I have that I don't believe. I don't know how to better explain this so there might be a text dump after this: Remove the subject matter so this applies to anything I'm working on; These are ideas I have that lead me where I need to go. It's more like thinking along the lines of "What if" and trying to work from data in a non-existent universe to compare what could have happened here.

The front facing "idea" is so mistranslated from my mind to my fingers almost all of the time. I'm working on making that better.

But then back to the point, devils advocate: if he does believe his own story and in a universe where that story is true, what else is he supposed to do?

 

[cujenn81]

I'm playing a hard devil's advocate here, mainly because I want to know what other people actually think about some of the random thoughts I have that I don't believe. I don't know how to better explain this so there might be a text dump after this: Remove the subject matter so this applies to anything I'm working on; These are ideas I have that lead me where I need to go. It's more like thinking along the lines of "What if" and trying to work from data in a non-existent universe to compare what could have happened here.

The front facing "idea" is so mistranslated from my mind to my fingers almost all of the time. I'm working on making that better.

But then back to the point, devils advocate: if he does believe his own story and in a universe where that story is true, what else is he supposed to do?

There’s no way he believes his own story because it contradicts itself.

Here are just a portion of his lies —

His biological parents aren’t his real parents. (No record of this.)

He was taken away from his biological parents as a child and his real parents are foreign diplomats. (No record of this.)

His parents opened new credit accounts in his name. (No record of this.)

His parents filed complaints against him to the Massachusetts Bar and Virginia Bar. (No record of this.)

He was being targeted by his family, specifically his father. (No proof of this.)

Bank employees hacked into his account, stole his money, and denied him access to the account. He reported this to the FBI. (No record of this.)

He wired the $200,000 he owed to Cameron Nelson but she never received it. (No record of this.)

He sent Cameron a $200,000 cashier’s check but she never received it. (No record of this.)

He had $32 million in the bank (falsified records of this) but needed to charge $200,000 to a credit card belonging to Cameron Nelson.

Jim used the credit card to procure rental homes for himself and Mindi, but he doesn’t know how he obtained Cameron’s credit card information.

Mindi and the baby died due to high blood pressure and heart problems (as told to his friend Chris Czaplak).

Mindi died from a stroke that was hereditary on her father’s side (as told to Mindi’s BFF Angela Wynn and his friend Cameron Nelson).

Mindi died from septic shock following a bad infection (as told Mindi’s former boss Joe West).

This guy used to be a lawyer. He knew the importance of obtaining and verifying authentic documentation in matters of finance, legal proceedings, and oh I don’t know, the DEATH of a spouse. And as the prosecutor so nicely put it, he didn’t just forget everything he knew about the law when he stopped practicing.

 

[fred&edna]

JMO MOO

I think it started happening after the divorce with heather.

To be clear here my current stance here until/if/unless we see a hard piece of evidence for jim or something else somewhere to 'confirm' the whole story: Nick should be in jail. Nick is responsible for the death of Mindi, and the hurt that followed, and should pay that price. I think he disposed of the body.

Just after all the people I've personally talked with who know Nick, people who were in signal chats, I just don't think Nick would have hurt a fly. Nick sounds to me like someone who wants to 'save' as many people as he can.

People lie, but IMO there's key things about people that don't change.

If this is something you can 'mask' away from or to the world, that scares the hell out of me.
I wear tons of masks. That mask shouldn't be possible to exist.

So that brings us back to theorizing which I'm not going to post on, just results in my posts being removed. I will just say, in every theory I have, there has to be a 3rd party. This trial added at least one new theory as well.

I'm absolutely 100% convinced there is more here than Nick wanted to leave Mindi because he met Sam so he killed Mindi and thought it'd all just go away.

if nick didn't kill mindi then who is your suspected culprit. did this perp murder, dismember and discard her body alone.

 

[feels_close_to_home]

if nick didn't kill mindi then who is your suspected culprit. did this perp murder, dismember and discard her body alone.

Every suspect I have in my theories was in the courtroom. And no, Nick dismembered and discarded. I'm in no way saying he's innocent. He just didn't commit the murder.

 

[ch_13]

The thing is, it's a virtual certainty that Mindi's killing occurred over the Thanksgiving Day weekend. Most people would have an excellent alibi for that time period, with long-standing plans and plenty of witnesses who would have seen them. Also, many would also be working on that Friday, again helping them with an alibi.

Furthermore, almost everyone carries a cellphone. Cell towers can pinpoint exactly where someone is at any given point in time, just like they proved that Nick was in the vicinity of where Mindi's body was dumped. And if someone turns off their phone, the lack of communication with cell towers is in and of itself pretty suspicious (like in the Kohberger case). Plus, if they don't live in the vicinity of Nick and Mindi's residence, there are telematics, CCTV, license plate readers, etc. All of which would show them traveling to Savannah.

So, I think it's important to keep in mind that while the trial proved Nick's guilt, we only saw maybe 1% of the evidence the police collected. But just because we didn't see it, doesn't mean that there wasn't a ton of evidence that showed that only Nick had the means and opportunity to kill Mindi.

Having followed the trial, I believe the GBI did an excellent job and I don't think they left any holes in the case. I'm sure that they followed up on all the possible suspects and ensured that they all had alibis at the time of the murder.