GA GA - Timothy Guy, 18, Forsyth County, 6 Feb 1987

[Sherriprince11]

I believe that there was never a Jeff... Somebody knows the truth... And, that person feels guilty for remaining quiet but is afraid to come forward.

 

[Nikkibornright]

Is the farm still in operation? I did a quick search but couldn't find anything with that name.
Was the farm even searched? It is possible that this Jeff person was made up and Tim never made it off of the farm that day.

Bumping this no the farm is gone and a housing development is there

 

[Alleykins]

Bumping this no the farm is gone and a housing development is there

Thank you.
I had an idea this might be the case.

 

[TheArtfulDetective]

 

[Nancy Drew RN]

 

[spartanx]

The theory of the family that was murdered so that he would not reveal the illicit activities of the farm is very plausible. A young boy who perhaps had aspirations for the future. Sometimes you find out things at work that it is better to keep quiet about.
rest in peace

 

[MADELINE123654]

It's possible. It seems he was mentally disabled.

http://www.state.ga.us/gbi/missing/guy.html

He was not that mentally disabled. I went to school with him, and he could hold a conversation just like anyone else.

 

[Rush4087]

It seems incongruent to me that Tim would’ve been involved in drugs or anything illegal. From everything I’ve read, it sounds like he was a very kind person, but maybe also a bit naive.

It is a little odd to me though that at age 18 he would have been working at a horse farm /stables almost an hour away from his parents house - in exchange for his room and board - and only returning to Snellville (I guess to his parent’s house) on the weekends.

That’s not much of a life for an 18 year old man (jmo) especially if he had no car (idk whether he had a car or not - I’m just assuming he didn’t as he was presumably getting a ride home from “Jeff”).

I now live within 5 miles or so from where Tim disappeared, but back then I lived about 10 miles south of there. That area definitely was very rural at the time, but it’s not as far out as you might think when you look at a map of ATL and Forsyth Co.

The farm (where the subdivision is now) was in the very southeastern part of Forsyth Co, so, it was also near the N Fulton county and the Gwinnett County lines. It’s kind of midway on a line between Johns Creek and Suwanee.

The land just east of Kemp Rd is owned by the state: big green open fields and woods going over to the Chattahoochee River. I often see deer in those fields in the morning.

I agree with those who think the most likely route home to Tim’s parents would have been Kemp to McGinnis Ferry to Lawrenceville-Suwannee to the town / city of Lawrenceville and then south on 124 to Snellvillle. No route I can think of would take you anywhere near Lake Lanier. It probably would’ve taken 50 min or so to get to Snellville back then with open roads

I don’t think there is a “Dixie Mafia” or dark underworld involved in Tim’s disappearance. I don’t think he’d have been involved with any criminal enterprise, and you’d think that if the farm was a cover for some sort for a pot or coke or distribution enterprise , LE would’ve found such evidence. And I doubt that Tim would have had any real money to rob

Just my opinion, but I think Tim might’ve been the victim of a serial killer. Somebody who took advantage of him. If I had to make a wild (wild) guess, I’d suggest looking at Harry Eugene Hale. Tim would’ve fit Hale’s victim's profile.

It is almost certain that Hale abducted and murdered Christoph Zahn from a bus stop or hotel in Atlanta in 1992. I think he may have drugged his victims, but jmo, At the time, Hale lived in Austell, GA. I know he lived and worked in the area in ‘92, but am not sure if he lived there in ‘87.

Hale also had homes in FL and KY at the same time. In any event, disappearing Christoph from ATL while living in Austell / Carroll County proves Harry E Hale travelled to commit his crimes.

I believe Hale was also responsible for the disappearance / murder of at least two other late-teen through about 30 year old men up near Martin, KY, where Hale also lived (I believe this home was his main residence): Mitchell Manns (missing from near Martin), thought murdered, body never found; and Walter J Cropper (also missing from near Martin, KY, body discovered in Georgia..)

I think Hale may be responsible for the disappearance of many other young men. Maybe it’s been done, but I wish someone would do an investigation and podcast about Harry Eugene Hale’s timeline and whereabouts and the possibly-related disappearances of young men in those locations - especially in KY, GA, and FL.

All jmo

 

[Gizmonic]

I find the information in the link at post #39 to be very compelling. The comments of the daughter of the farm owner are incongruous with those of someone falsely accused with nothing to hide. Her replies are cold if not outright malicious and reek of the smug confidence of someone untouchable.

 

[Rush4087]

I find the information in the link at post #39 to be very compelling. The comments of the daughter of the farm owner are incongruous with those of someone falsely accused with nothing to hide. Her replies are cold if not outright malicious and reek of the smug confidence of someone untouchable.

Thanks for pointing out that link! Although I’d read the thread, I had not read that link.

Sounds like the farm actually was a den of druggies and thieves and violent folks who for some reason thought they were La Cosa Nostra because they had dark hair or something.

I need to re-look at things. Based on that link, I would think PK was somebody that LE might’ve looked at. And I agree that Jeff probably never existed

What a piece of work PK’s daughter Dawn is/was. Acting like she was connected to Vito Corleone because she was of Italian ancestry. I don’t know why, but I have a feeling that woman might be in jail right now.

GA might’ve had some Dixie Mafia organized crime, but - I hate to break it to her - the five families weren’t operating in bumble, ga.

All jmo

 

[blayneyyy25]

Could he be this john doe ? I feel like it matches up with a lot of his profile.

 

[cocomod]

Could he be this john doe ? I feel like it matches up with a lot of his profile.

Wow! His dad was sure he was buried at the farm, but this DOE looks very similar and the dates line up. However, the car keys don't make sense because Timothy was driving an Impala

 

[Nancy Drew RN]

Wow! His dad was sure he was buried at the farm, but this DOE looks very similar and the dates line up. However, the car keys don't make sense because Timothy was driving an Impala

Timothy Guy has been excluded as this Doe per NamUs.

 

[pass-thru]

I find the information in the link at post #39 to be very compelling. The comments of the daughter of the farm owner are incongruous with those of someone falsely accused with nothing to hide. Her replies are cold if not outright malicious and reek of the smug confidence of someone untouchable.

She was an 8 year old kid at the time of the disappearance, and would have not culpability. Her dad was long since dead at the time of that 2019 post. I think she was clearly trolling the weirdo texting her out of the blue, and probably sick of people contacting her.

Also that blogpost is extremely sloppy journalism. They have the photo of the wrong Phillip Klinger. A pic that guy found on facebook and put up without confirming. The Phillip Klinger in question died in 2005, so why would he have had a facebook in 2019? What kind of journalist would post that? The guy in the pic....his facebook is still up, but he died in 2020. Clearly the wrong person.