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Yup and I bet he cares. RH would call the victims friends and family to shame the victims. Bullies usually project.

Shame the victims in which way? I thought they were deceased when he was calling their friends and family?
 
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Easy to compare his belts to evidence... his belts are extra-extra-long.
Thank you! I didn't know what cut distal ends of leather belts meant. You answer the question. Nice to see you again.
 
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''Ellerup “and her family are going through a devastating time in their lives,” a Thursday statement from her attorneys said. “The sensitive nature of her husband’s arrest is taking an emotional toll on the immediate and extended family, especially their elderly family members.”

“Ms. Ellerup does not wish to comment further and has requested the public and press to please respect the family’s privacy at this time.”

No one has visited Heuermann in jail other than his attorneys, Suffolk County Sheriff Errol D. Toulon, Jr. told CNN Thursday night.''
 
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Shame the victims in which way? I thought they were deceased when he was calling their friends and family?

Perhaps a better word than "shame" is "demean." Trash talk them. Belittle them.
 
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“For Melissa's family, the arrest of a suspect almost 13 years after her body was discovered was particularly unnerving. This was because the suspect had taunted Melissa's family, using her own mobile phone to make calls to them in 2009.

Multiple calls were made soon after her disappearance, including one in which he admitted to killing her. The first calls were made July 16, July 19, and July 23 - just days after her disappearance.”

RH had his largest window when his wife went to Iceland from July 8, 2009 until August 18, 2009. Could he have kept MB alive in that house for a few days while taunting her family with these phone calls? I’m thinking this recent news that evidence of a victim possibly being killed in that home is actually a reality. LE is emptying that house!


While we're still sorting the facts, NLM123 posted this earlier RE: Melissa. [edited}

Melissa Barthelemy
Last seen alive: 10 July 2009 in NYC
Defendant’s wife's location during crime: From 8 July 2009 through 18 Aug 2009, Heuermann’s wife was out of the country (she departed for Iceland 8 July 2009). Heuermann himself departed for Iceland on 10 Aug 2009 and returned from Iceland 18 Aug 2009.
 
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While we're still sorting the facts, NLM123 posted this earlier RE: Melissa. If he did keep her in the home, it wasn't for long but it would've felt like forever for Melissa.

Melissa Barthelemy
Last seen alive: 10 July 2009 in NYC
Defendant’s wife's location during crime: From 8 July 2009 through 18 Aug 2009, Heuermann’s wife was out of the country (she departed for Iceland 8 July 2009). Heuermann himself departed for Iceland on 10 Aug 2009 and returned from Iceland 18 Aug 2009.

I don't understand. If she was last seen on July 10 and he didn't leave for Iceland until August 10, that gives him a month with her (I feel sick just typing that).
 
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Next-door neighbor says he would see RH in front of his house in his car, engine running, in late-night hours. Once heard RH digging in the yard late at night and claims RH burned his garbage every few weeks, which is not allowed in that area. Neighbor didn't like him.

Drama about nothing at all.
there was I expecting a big reveal.
all I got was a parking thingy ..
 
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I don't understand. If she was last seen on July 10 and he didn't leave for Iceland until August 10, that gives him a month with her (I feel sick just typing that)
I think we're both ill. Thanks, edited my post. Wished I'd never known this part though.
 
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Drama about nothing at all.
there was I expecting a big reveal.
all I got was a parking thingy ..
Its a New York thing. You never block someone’s driveway and you never park in front of a neighbor’s house.
 
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Full disclosure.
I wonder what his plan is while avoiding entering his psyche.
Possible or not?
He must have a plan..
What is it?
I think the loss of control is going to cause him to eventually snap and he starts confessing
 
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Yes, it looks like he is able to control his urges, killing only when his family is reliably away. That makes his "kill window" rather small.
Weird isn't it?!
But the pattern is a perfect give away...thank God!
 
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I think the loss of control is going to cause him to eventually snap and he starts confessing
I don't know, he could lock down.

I'm not even close to the inside of his head and I'm very very reluctant to go there, not because I'm afraid of horror, more that I'm afraid of my own rage..

Just looking at their photographs is evoking huge anger in me.
 
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I don't know, he could lock down.

I'm not even close to the inside of his head and I'm very very reluctant to go there, not because I'm afraid of horror, more that I'm afraid of my own rage..

Just looking at their photographs is evoking huge anger in me.
The only reason I think this is a possibility is because I think he will eventually see that there is no way he can explain his way out of this. I think in order to regain control (in his eyes) he will spill on his terms. I don’t think his ego can handle being ripped apart in front of a courtroom and media
 
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The only reason I think this is a possibility is because I think he will eventually see that there is no way he can explain his way out of this. I think in order to regain control (in his eyes) he will spill on his terms. I don’t think his ego can handle being ripped apart in front of a courtroom and media
I agree with you. I think having control (at least what he perceives as control) is the most important thing to him.
 
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The only reason I think this is a possibility is because I think he will eventually see that there is no way he can explain his way out of this. I think in order to regain control (in his eyes) he will spill on his terms. I don’t think his ego can handle being ripped apart in front of a courtroom and media
plea deal for info in relation to other murders he may have committed?
He's never gonna see the light of day as a free man but he might try playing a power game for better conditions etc, choice of prisons...?
 
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I agree with you. I think having control (at least what he perceives as control) is the most important thing to him.
Even that bizarre interview he gave last year, he really tried to control it and make himself come across as dominant.
 
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Drama about nothing at all.
there was I expecting a big reveal.
all I got was a parking thingy ..

There's something I don't understand about this. Is the guy saying that he's seen interviews with neighbors who said RH was a good family man? Cuomo seems to pose the question hypothetically, but the guy's answer seems specific to RH.

What I don't understand is where he's seen these interviews? Because I haven't seen a single one, and I'm sure if there were any, they would have been posted here at WS.
 
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Even that bizarre interview he gave last year, he really tried to control it and make himself come across as dominant.

I just listened to that entire thing today and again, I completely agree with you.

Although it turns out the creepiest thing to me about that interview is how the interviewer kept laughing uproariously at everything RH said, even when it could not be remotely considered humorous.

That hammer remark in its entire context is even more disturbing than it appeared in the snippets.
 

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