Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[investigatefred]

Something I've been thinking about Chevy Avalanche trucks, is they all came factory standard with a bed cover. I'm sure that made it easy for him to conceal lots of things.

 

[kittythehare]

Wonder when and how he planned to clean everything up, throw stuff away. He's 59 but retirement years are approaching. He has the land in SC where he wanted to retire, but it would've taken time to secretly get rid of incriminating stuff. He has so much! Did he plan to haul the whole mess from the house and storage units with him to the empty lots in SC?

Whatever his plan was, it would take time, money, and effort to put it in place. Wonder what he had in mind to to?

jmo

We need to define what might be incriminating stuff?
A few tools and the remnants of whatever he used to pack them.
Other things might be walls with blood spatter he thought he had cleaned, floors, ditto.

I don't believe for a moment he knew he was under suspicion.
victims' clothing could have been bagged, chopped or intact, with them.

 

[Crumble]

We know for a fact that the task force was trailing him for over a year and he was regularly patronizing sex workers the entire time.

Today I read that they were trailing him for a year but I didn't know that he was still seeing SW during that time! That is horrifying to me. Is that not an ethical issue for the cops? Were they not at all concerned that he would assult or murder another worker while under surveillance? Or did they not have enough evidence at that time to make an arrest?

 

[rho]

I'm tempted to go too. Not sure if I will though. I'm 5'3".

jmo

I'm 5' 7 can i go i'll slouch down , all kidding i like it

 

[Emilie D]

I’m torn with the others. The proximity of all the victims would make you logically think it is all one killer, however, I am trying to look at this from the angle of a SK and as someone who lives on Long Island (weird, I know lol ). Where can I dispose of a body that is not high traffic at night, dark, difficult to navigate, etc? Would more than one depraved mind come to the same conclusion as RH that Ocean Parkway is the best bet? I could see more than one person finding that to be ideal. But then my brain goes back to logic and thinks there is no way.

I forgot to add that I believe JB is also responsible for Peaches and Baby Doe due to the baby’s proximity to VM and also the dismembering of peaches and finding her body in different locations. I’m on the fence about Fire Island Doe. She may also be JB

I’m with you. Im not sure it’s JB but it fits better than RH. I thinks it’s the fact that RH obviously likes to visit he trophy’s all in one spot and the others were left in multiple places. Maybe I am more psychotic than RH and he didn’t mind his trophies not being whole.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

We need to define what might be incriminating stuff?
A few tools and the remnants of whatever he used to pack them.
Other things might be walls with blood spatter he thought he had cleaned, floors, ditto.
I don't believe for a moment he knew he was under suspicion.
victims' clothing could have been bagged, chopped or intact, with them.

To move to SC, if that was his plan, or even to die without anyone knowing his crimes, did he have a plan to someday get rid of stuff? Was he going to go through all the things in his house/storage unit himself or just let someone else pack up and declutter and hope they don't figure out items were used in crimes?

Just seems like a task that would hang over the head of someone looking toward retirement and moving to SC in the upcoming years. Perhaps this isn't of interest, but if he's such a planner, I do wonder about his plan

jmo

 

[Ruminations]

There's zero evidence SG was hired for a party. RH also doesn't seem like he would fit into any rich boy clubs. He's far from rich and has been described as weird and cheap. Far from your average country club gold member.

How do you think his personality compared to Joe Brewer? There is a similarity IMO. Neither high brow.

MOO

 

[TKG]

RSBM

Not to throw water on the idea of the storage unit as a base for disposal of victims, because it's a good one, but I may have a personal insight, here, as someone with more than one hoarder in the extended family (one who's just as bad as any tv show you've seen) and packrat tendencies myself... They may just have got a unit when they ran out of room at home. And then when that was full, got a second.

As I said, doesn't mean he didn't use them for nefarious purposes or store trophies from victims, there, too.

MOO

Valid point however, The ME showing up during the search leads me to believe there is evidence to the contrary.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Cops seen carrying mysterious bags as evidence from alleged Gilgo Beach killer’s home after tearing up backyard deck, tiles

"A police dog was brought in to nose around the Long Island backyard of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann Saturday, while investigators dismantled a wooden deck and removed cement tiles from the dilapidated green space."

 

[Deskraven]

In my our lifetime, an arrest is made for LISK!

10 victims

Friday’s reported arrest came after Suffolk County’s new police commissioner created a special Gilgo Beach Homicide Investigation Task Force in February last year

Gilgo Beach, LISK serial killings suspect in police custody

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When I saw this headline the very first thing I thought of was web sleuths...Absolutely alarming to see in real time. We shall see what happens next. Thank you for posting. <3

 

[Mountain_Kat]

The problem with that idea, is she got in the car with him. She would have recognised him.

MOO

He also owned A LOT of firearms. While it's true that Amber wasn't shot, the threat of possibly being shot is plenty of incentive to get into a car. JMO

 

[Yemelyan]

The problem with that idea, is she got in the car with him. She would have recognised him.

MOO

I re-read Robert Kolker's book "Lost Girls" after the arrest broke. One thing that stood out to me was how Amber was supporting with her sex work not just her own huge drug habit (described in detail in the book), but the addictions of three other people in that house. I think the siren song of promised money is why she went with him even though she knew exactly who he was.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

The French guy that interviewed him said RH had a very strong handshake, like a hand of marble.

Again, I'm not sold on the idea of him being responsible for other murders beyond the Gilgo 4, but I don't think it's out the question either.

jmo

I've never believed that the killer of the GB4 had anything to do the other Long Island murders. But I have always suspected that he might have been responsible for the AC4. I still share that view, 13 years later.

 

[Emilie D]

I've never believed that the killer of the GB4 had anything to do the other Long Island murders. But I have always suspected that he might have been responsible for the AC4. I still share that view, 13 years later.

Me too! The AC4 were more similar than the other beach victims.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Cops seen carrying mysterious bags as evidence from alleged Gilgo Beach killer’s home after tearing up backyard deck, tiles

"A police dog was brought in to nose around the Long Island backyard of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann Saturday, while investigators dismantled a wooden deck and removed cement tiles from the dilapidated green space."

Oh lord. I have such a horrible feeling this will get even worse. Also heard that helicopters have been flying around his house. I’m sure they will be digging up that yard and the raised beds.

photo from your link. OMG!

 

[fred&edna]

I re-read Robert Kolker's book "Lost Girls" after the arrest broke. One thing that stood out to me was how Amber was supporting with her sex work not just her own huge drug habit (described in detail in the book), but the addictions of three other people in that house. I think the siren song of promised money is why she went with him even though she knew exactly who he was.

That's my understanding, as well. I think the promise of much larger than usual payment was the enticement to go with him.

 

[fred&edna]

Oh lord. I have such a horrible feeling this will get even worse. Also heard that helicopters have been flying around his house. I’m sure they will be digging up that yard and the raised beds.

photo from your link. OMG!

The photos are haunting.

 

[Yemelyan]

That's my understanding, as well. I think the promise of much larger than usual payment was the enticement to go with him.

Agreed - just like (also from the same book by Kolker), MBB is described as being desperate to make enough money to avoid an eviction in housing court. She had a rule that she only did in-calls to her hotel room but her friends and family thought that she may have made an exception to agree to an out-call if it meant that she could make a lot of money.

 

[Crumble]

What I would be very interested about is if he had any “successful dates” with any SW? Did he actually maybe ‘click’ with a few? Or did he just kill them all?

I used to work as a SW and if ever news would circulate about a bad client, more often than not there would be workers who had seen that same client and had no problem with them. My local sex worker organisation shared a warning about a ugly mug who had been accused of r*pe and attempted murder. There were workers who had been seeing this guy for years as a regular, completely unaware of the danger.

Some observations based on my own experience. All MOO.

Opportunistic type client may test your boundaries before deciding whether you would make an easy victim. They might ask, or try to do something they know they are not allowed to do, and see how far they can take it.

If you work alone, have no security. At least where I live, outcalls to private residences are considered to be one of the most high risk types of bookings. Especially late at night. The guy is in his comfort zone and you are unfamiliar with your surroundings, the layout of the house and potential escape routes.

He might also see a lack of vigilance as an invite or justification for his behaviour.

Maybe he only has disgust or disregard for certain types of sex workers... if you don't fit that type they see you as more human.

 

[NonameLurker]

Cops seen carrying mysterious bags as evidence from alleged Gilgo Beach killer’s home after tearing up backyard deck, tiles

"A police dog was brought in to nose around the Long Island backyard of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann Saturday, while investigators dismantled a wooden deck and removed cement tiles from the dilapidated green space."

The deck was built sometime between 2006 and 2011 from historical imagery i've seen.