Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[fred&edna]

Okay so the rest of the victims were more fitting with Joel Rifkin's killings. Robert shulman took arms to hinder identification, Bitrolff no dismemberment. Rifkin was arrested in 1993, schulman 1996 and Bitrolff in 2014.

We know Huermann was interested in Bitrolff because of the Google search.

Cherries - was found in 2007 stabbed and dismembered.

Peaches in 1997 - haven't found a cause of death for her, but was dismembered.

Baby doe _ found 2011, no cause of death.

Valerie Mack - last seen 2000, left foot not found with the rest of the remains. (I'm sure I read that Bitrolff took left foot and shoe. But I can't be sure)

Jessica Taylor - found in 2003,

Doe known as Asian Male - between 1996-2001, found complete, described as having met a violent death, this doe I think could be related to Huermann.

Fire island Jane doe - discovered 1996- same dismemberment as the others.

Manorville John Doe - complete, found in 2000 traumatic injuries.

Lattingtown Jane Doe - discovered 2013 in a bag. Signs of trauma.

We know Huermann googled Bitrolff I wonder If he also googled Rifkin and Shulmann. I've heard one of the serial killer experts who co authored a book with BTK say that he is a coward, and I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that he had an unhealthy interest in the other LISK's

Maybe O/T but one interesting thing about BTK is that there was no evidence that he physically (uhmm... himself) penetrated any of his victims, however, semen was found near some victims. I wonder how many other sexual sadist killers have this "performance" problem. *Sorry, I'm not trying to be humorous but I'm having trouble with vocabulary. I mean, I know the words but I'm not sure if I can use them here.

 

[CuriousCricket]

"The Long Island man whose tip proved key to nailing Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann wants to know why it took police more than a decade to follow up on his lead."

Gilgo Beach murder tipster wants to know why bust took 13 years: ‘I mean, come on! Why didn’t they use that?’

David Schaller, the last person to see Gilgo Beach victim Amber Lynn Costello alive in 2010, says he gave cops a description of suspect Rex Heuermann and his Chevy Avalanche — and they did no…

nypost.com

Maybe he would have been more believable if he had reported her missing. I don't trust that he told police WHEN he said he did and I don't like that he knew all these facts and protected his own behind instead of going to the authorities. NOW he's blaming others. He's no hero.

 

[Jw192]

Sorry if it's already been mentioned in a previous thread but does anybody have a way of watching the killing season marathon in the UK please? It won't play on YT due to region issues

 

[MinnesotaMary]

Has anyone said the house was unclean, filthy, 'dusty', 'grimy'..... I do believe I saw a pic' of law enf' carrying out real kitty litter..... I wonder if it was one cat...

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Here is the link to the video I posted above. I couldn’t edit for some reason

'Soundproof room' found in Rex Heuermann's home

Police searching the house of the Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann have reportedly discovered a soundproof room in the basement, a neighbor said.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I've been thinking that the garden in the backyard was his wife's project, hoping it was a happy place for her to spend time. Now I wonder if he "gifted" her with the garden space, patio area - she thought it was something nice he did but when really he was hiding evidence of crimes?

I imagine he was "nice" about her going on vacations - "Sure, take as long as you like in Iceland!" - when it was anything but nice.

jmo

 

[hazel324]

This discussion has caused me to explore the possibility that RH is responsible for only the 4. Because of his age - 43 in 2007 when MBB was killed - I have been convinced he had many more kills before and afterward. But what if he did not and she was the first?

MBB was restrained with BELTS and wrapped in plastic. BELTS - one monogrammed. One with a hair caught in the buckle.

Why would an experienced killer not be prepared for resistance from the victim and have implements ready?

Maybe he had not even planned the murder, but things took a turn and he grabbed and scrambled for just anything in reach to tie her down?

Now, I don't understand anyone leaving the belts once she was past resistance, but perhaps he wasn't thinking as well as usual. So, he found plastic, wrapped her and loaded her into the vehicle. Imagine driving around with a body in the vehicle and no plans with what to do. No telling how long it took for him to decide on a good place.

Don't you think he sweated out the next couple of years, waiting for the body to be discovered?

However, in 2009, two years later as the anniversary for MBB rolled around, his family was planning a long visit to Iceland and he had a plan. It was almost the exact anniversary of the killing of MBB when Barthelemy vanished and the taunting phone calls began. I wonder if having the exact anniversary available contributed to the events. According to the Bail Application, her phone was used after she vanished and while RH's family was away, then not used while he joined his family in Iceland, but again used the day after he returned to the States. Barthelemy was the first restrained with tape and hidden in camo burlap to blend with the dumping ground. So location pre-planned.

The next year, RH's family planned a June trip and he planned to indulge his hobby, a few days earlier, but still close enough. Again tape and camo burlap.

In early September, same year, was the incident with Costello, and the wife was in New Jersey Aug. 28-Sept. 5, 2010. Again tape and camo burlap. So prepared.

Then Shannan Gilbert happened in December and his crimes were discovered. Has he managed to just sit tight and hope all these years since, feeling compelled to occasionally discuss the case? Were there only 4 for him and a late starting age of 43, OR did he begin killing as a much younger man with his victims better hidden? If so, why?

Referring to that silly saying - you don't know what you don't know...

This arrest and the amount of evidence and timing etc has been released because it relates to the few kills he's been charged with

What we don't know is RH's movements every day of his life outside of the time he was first identified by LE as a suspect

He's had 40+ years, properties in several States, presumably he took vacations or attended conferences and from what's been seen of the way he viewed his family, guessing he had free rein to go wherever...

I just wince a bit when people refer to his 'downtime or cooling off' or that he started with the GB4 then stopped!

We know how many, many unsolved murders there are, especially SWs plus those who've never been found...or yet to be discovered

It's my belief these charges are tip of iceburg. He had a place in LV so Nevada is where (I think) one of the locations more will be found

But hey...we don't know yet because we literally don't know RH's movements over 40+ years

 

[Kikalina]

I've been thinking that the garden in the backyard was his wife's project, hoping it was a happy place for her to spend time. Now I wonder if he "gifted" her with the garden space, patio area - she thought it was something nice he did but when really he was hiding evidence of crimes?

I imagine he was "nice" about her going on vacations - "Sure, take as long as you like in Iceland!" - when it was anything but nice.

jmo

This poor woman.

 

[fidgeypie]

Sorry if it's already been mentioned in a previous thread but does anybody have a way of watching the killing season marathon in the UK please? It won't play on YT due to region issues

I found it on sky go

 

[LongIsland731]

Does anyone have a clue if most married serial killer's start killing before or after they get married. If most start before there a chance he could have pre 1990 victims.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Sorry if it's already been mentioned in a previous thread but does anybody have a way of watching the killing season marathon in the UK please? It won't play on YT due to region issues

Do you have Apple TV? You might have to pay. Idk I’ll keep looking

The Killing Season - Apple TV

Joshua Zeman and Rachel Mills as they investigate one of the most bizarre unsolved serial killer cases of our time, ten dead sex workers discovered on…

tv.apple.com

eta* It’s on Hulu. Can you get that?

 

[wazdorf]

Sorry if it's already been mentioned in a previous thread but does anybody have a way of watching the killing season marathon in the UK please? It won't play on YT due to region issues

Channel 4 has it on their streaming service.

 

[LaineyJ]

Maybe he would have been more believable if he had reported her missing. I don't trust that he told police WHEN he said he did and I don't like that he knew all these facts and protected his own behind instead of going to the authorities. NOW he's blaming others. He's no hero.

Maybe unpopular opinion but imo better to have this witness with info than no info at all. The height, glasses, and car info turned out to be spot on. Not that I think he’d definitely be a credible witness if there were a trial, though. Sometimes what you know helps you discover things that you can prove in court.

I looked at the bail document again but it doesn’t say, do we know for sure WHEN he told police this info? I’m curious to know.

Agree it would be pretty crappy for him to sit on this info, if he did.

 

[NyxNY]

OMG!!!!!

Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann may have killed victim in soundproof room; cops using cadaver dogs to search yard

Cops have reportedly found a soundproof room in the basement of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann’s home where they believe at least one woman may have been killed.

nypost.com

FWIW, as of right now, it’s only the New York Post that is reporting the soundproof room. With no specific or official source. It may be true, it may not be true. IMO, I would take this with a grain of salt until you hear it from an official source.

MOOooOoOooo

 

[NyxNY]

I so wish we could see the look on his face when he was arrested and realized.....they know.

jmo

He was arrested on a busy NYC street with gazillions of smart phones, cctv, dash cams, go pros etc. That front view of him being arrested is out there somewhere, IMO. I am just amazed that it hasn’t surfaced yet.

 

[otto]

Sorry if it's already been mentioned in a previous thread but does anybody have a way of watching the killing season marathon in the UK please? It won't play on YT due to region issues

Not in the UK, but have you tried this link?

Whoever Fears Monsters | A&E

EpisodeVideo

play.aetv.com

 

[Warwick7]

FWIW, as of right now, it’s only the New York Post that is reporting the soundproof room. With no specific or official source. It may be true, it may not be true. IMO, I would take this with a grain of salt until you hear it from an official source.

MOOooOoOooo

It's a matter of time....

 

[Friday13]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if LE has concluded their searches of the storage units? I haven’t heard anything about them in days.

 

[neesaki]

I can think of dozens of reasons why, but without getting into details, probably, because they lived in a hoarded environment, and this is because he was an obsessive miser.

Oh wow….. That helps . I had no idea. Thank you @Charlot123 ! I’m seriously behind. And very grateful.

 

[vls12345]

Gilgo murders: Backhoe begins digging in suspect Rex Heuermann’s backyard

News 12 observed a K-9 and a ground-penetrating radar machine at the home of Rex Heuermann on Sunday morning – the suspect arrested in three of the Gilgo Beach slayings and a prime suspect in a fourth.

bronx.news12.com

 

[Warwick7]

Maybe unpopular opinion but imo better to have this witness with info than no info at all. The height, glasses, and car info turned out to be spot on. Not that I think he’d definitely be a credible witness if there were a trial, though. Sometimes what you know helps you discover things that you can prove in court.

I looked at the bail document again but it doesn’t say, do we know for sure WHEN he told police this info? I’m curious to know.

Agree it would be pretty crappy for him to sit on this info, if he did.

BBM

However, there have been less credible witnesses who nailed it in court.

Donald Demarino stated in court it did not appear Heather Elvis could walk or talk in the photo he was shown by Sidney.

He added the photo was taken for Tammy Moorer and that he did not expect to see Elvis again after viewing the photo. The picture caused him to leave the residence and nail Tammy Moore.