Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[iamshadow21]

But that doesn't explain this image, where you can see the roof line on the left of the picture, and a green shed with the door open on the right.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/07/NYPICHPDPICT000014493789.jpg?resize=1536,1024&quality=75&strip=all

I think there must be two.

(Link below for the main article)

Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann may have killed victim in soundproof room; cops using cadaver dogs to search yard

Cops have reportedly found a soundproof room in the basement of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann’s home where they believe at least one woman may have been killed.

nypost.com

Definitely two, that area in the pic you linked with the railings? That's where all the pot plants are stacked, now. We can just see the air conditioning unit sticking out from under the roof line above it, with all the plywood stacked above and in front of it.

Two green sheds, one attached to the back corner of the house, one diagonally across the yard from it against the back fence, hidden in most shots by the tree canopy.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Right? How do you hide that?
I can’t see him allowing someone in to his home to build that. But there is no way he built that alone. It would have to have been while family was traveling (summer months) and IMO that home does not have central air (window unit in photos). With the heat and humidity, the small house and huge ogre. I can’t imagine.

I think at minimum he might have hired off-the-books dayworkers, if not some rental equipment too.

So many details to keep track of. I hope the investigative team has expert database people (I'm sure they do) to organize all this.

jmo

 

[NyxNY]

You are right.
I was just posting the Daily Mail in reply to you, because you may have thought only the New York Post that is reporting the soundproof room.

Gotcha! Sadly, they will all start reporting that now even though they haven't verified. What a day we live in.

 

[NyxNY]

My understanding is that the 12' x 15' room in his basement is sound proof.

The interior designer who worked with him in 2009 said he would not allow her into the room, something about storing guns.

After scanning the back yard, and excavator lifted the first 1-2 feet of dirt, and someone was in the hole with a shovel. It's hard to tell what they found, but I assume they found something since they all had a look and then stopped digging.

OT, but I see you are a verified expert. Just curious what area you specialize in. This has nothing to do with your post, and I am in no way being snarky. I would just like to know for future reference in all cases.. Thanks

 

[Momoffourboys]

I think at minimum he might have hired off-the-books dayworkers, if not some rental equipment too.

So many details to keep track of. I hope the investigative team has expert database people (I'm sure they do) to organize all this.

jmo

I’m still not sold on the soundproof, 2-3 foot thick cement walled, vaulted door room. If we see a masonry truck parked out front, that would be telling.
Otherwise, I’ll wait for LE to announce.
(I’ll swing by later and report back).

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I think he hired someone to pour the concrete, rather than doing it himself. And someone had to haul the door to his home and put it in place. I think there was hired help for that too.

Wonder how he explained it to his wife? That sturdy of a gun room? Or was she away at the time and not realizing the extent of the project? And then she got a garden house on top, perhaps? Speculation only.

jmo

The first thing I thought of when I saw mention of the concrete was a ‘safe room’, at least thats what we call them here. When the EF5+ tornadoes blasted and demolished almost my entire city, homes were rebuilt including a safe room instead of the old storm cellars we’ve got to run to. Still, they’re building them into the home but also building one underground.

 

[kittythehare]

The vault door would be too heavy for one person and perhaps too heavy for his vehicle. I think he hired at least some help, even if to rent the mixer. But, of course, that is a complete guess and we really don't know the extent of this construction.

jmo

what weight do you imagine it is?

 

[CuriousCricket]

From the article "Weeks stopped working for Heuermann in June 2022 after he shortchanged him $5."

I thought RH was greedy. I don't know how it will work against him in the investigation, but i hope it will.

If indeed there is a soundproof room, I am halfway expecting an underground passageway leading from it. Also, it is interesting whether he kept his guns in that room.

I suspect it already has. Instead of buying new tape to use on the victims and keeping it clean and bagged, he seems to have used tape from around the house that had hairs from his wife and maybe other "stuff" lint, etc. stuck to it. It'll be interesting what they discover from the house actually on the victims.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

what weight do you imagine it is?

I have no idea, but I do know of buildings in the city that used to be banks (or another entity with big vaults) and the vault doors are so heavy that the new business in the building just kept them in place.

Of course, I have no idea if RH does have a vault door and if he does, I have no idea what the size is. But, if he salvaged a door from a building site, I can imagine it would be super heavy.

jmo

 

[Ann99]

RH was an architect and knew about building codes.
Was there a local building code that he would have had to deal with to do this construction/addition to his older home?
Would there be zoning requirements or paperwork to be filed?
I am wondering if there is a paper trail with the local government.
Surely LE would know to check this aspect.
In my area all building additions/ construction has to be approved locally - Permits, especially major digging.

Or, would this not be considered an addition? Not something local zoning would be concerned with overseeing?

I guess my point is LE , through local government, should have some idea as to what alterations he made to his property.
But it doesn’t seem as though they do have this info.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

RH was an architect and knew about building codes.
Was there a local building code that he would have had to deal with to do this construction/addition to his older home?
Would there be zoning requirements or paperwork to be filed?
I am wondering if there is a paper trail with the local government.
Surely LE would know to check this aspect.
In my area all building additions/ construction has to be approved locally - Permits, especially major digging.

Or, would this not be considered an addition? Not something local zoning would be concerned with overseeing?

I guess my point is LE , through local government, should have some idea as to what alterations he made to his property.
But it doesn’t seem as though they do have this info.

That was my first thought. But maybe Mr. Building Code Expert didn't get a permit. Maybe some code from 1899 allows him to build a room without telling the township....or maybe he just ignored codes all together. This is the same man that stuck up a couple of wood blocks to hold his porch roof.

jmo

 

[Emilie D]

RH was an architect and knew about building codes.
Was there a local building code that he would have had to deal with to do this construction/addition to his older home?
Would there be zoning requirements or paperwork to be filed?
I am wondering if there is a paper trail with the local government.
Surely LE would know to check this aspect.
In my area all building additions/ construction has to be approved locally - Permits, especially major digging.

Or, would this not be considered an addition? Not something local zoning would be concerned with overseeing?

I guess my point is LE , through local government, should have some idea as to what alterations he made to his property.
But it doesn’t seem as though they do have this info.

Construction like this would require a permit and if one was obtained, records would be available through the city. If there is no record, it's likely that he did the work himself or had someone do it under the table so to speak.

 

[Momoffourboys]

RH was an architect and knew about building codes.
Was there a local building code that he would have had to deal with to do this construction/addition to his older home?
Would there be zoning requirements or paperwork to be filed?
I am wondering if there is a paper trail with the local government.
Surely LE would know to check this aspect.
In my area all building additions/ construction has to be approved locally - Permits, especially major digging.

Or, would this not be considered an addition? Not something local zoning would be concerned with overseeing?

I guess my point is LE , through local government, should have some idea as to what alterations he made to his property.
But it doesn’t seem as though they do have this info.

Here is the website for building codes for MP. I would think any major alteration would require a permit.

Village of Massapequa Park, NY: General Use Regulations

Ch 345 Art III In any residence district, no building or premises shall be used and no building shall be erected or structurally altered which is arranged, intended or designed to be used for other than one or more of the following uses: Single-family dwelling. Chu

ecode360.com

also, correction to my previous post. It appears the home does have central AC. I suppose it doesn’t work well and they needed window/wall unit. Also, the home has a fireplace.

105 1st Ave, Massapequa Park, NY - 1 bath

1 bath, 1323 sq. ft. house located at 105 1st Ave, Massapequa Park, NY 11762 sold for $195,000 on Mar 24, 1998. View sales history, tax history, home value estimates, and overhead views. APN 48205 ...

www.redfin.com

 

[Friday13]

I suspect it already has. Instead of buying new tape to use on the victims and keeping it clean and bagged, he seems to have used tape from around the house that had hairs from his wife and maybe other "stuff" lint, etc. stuck to it. It'll be interesting what they discover from the house actually on the victims.

I’m very curious to know how old the cat is and how long they’ve had it, cat hair gets EVERYWHERE. That kitty could possibly be a key piece of evidence as well.

 

[Friday13]

I have no idea, but I do know of buildings in the city that used to be banks (or another entity with big vaults) and the vault doors are so heavy that the new business in the building just kept them in place.

Of course, I have no idea if RH does have a vault door and if he does, I have no idea what the size is. But, if he salvaged a door from a building site, I can imagine it would be super heavy.

jmo

Could it possibly have been made block by block and cemented together? Do we even know what it was made of, has that been divulged?

 

[Friday13]

That was my first thought. But maybe Mr. Building Code Expert didn't get a permit. Maybe some code from 1899 allows him to build a room without telling the township....or maybe he just ignored codes all together. This is the same man that stuck up a couple of wood blocks to hold his porch roof.

jmo

If I had to take a guess, if we are talking about an underground structure that was not visible to prying eyes, I would think he didn’t bother with permits. And a lot of people won’t question it if it’s not a visible eye sore or a long, noisy disruptive project.

 

[iamshadow21]

Could it possibly have been made block by block and cemented together? Do we even know what it was made of, has that been divulged?

I don't think we know anything ...concrete... yet.



(I'll get my coat.)

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Could it possibly have been made block by block and cemented together? Do we even know what it was made of, has that been divulged?

I'm guessing in the dark. No fact are known, but I still speculate.

jmo

 

[Friday13]

I don't think we know anything...concrete... yet.



(I'll get my coat.)

Lol that is a fantastic response !!!

 

[iamshadow21]

Lol that is a fantastic response !!!

I have reached the peak dad joke level of tiredness. I should probably go to bed. (Eventually.)