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It looks the size of a chest freezer but if it were, wouldn't they have just said so?
I don’t think so, because there’d be all kinds of rumors flying. I think it’s a chest freezer also. Looks about the size of mine. I’m going with the storage idea because no one would look twice at him loading or carrying something wrapped in burlap to the woods around Christmas time or after.
 
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Daily Mail reports the item just as a "large item covered in moving blankets", which is more accurate than the other news outlet (picture and link to Daily Mail below):


 

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Some bike over or walk the dog from nearby blocks; some trek from distant towns or other states. Once-near-empty streets are lined with cars from sunup to sundown, parked by true-crime addicts, serial killer aficionados and some people obsessed specifically with the Gilgo Beach murders.

“It’s part of history,” said Lidia Feldman, 26, who lives several towns away. Her 2-year-old daughter cheerfully rode her plastic toy car into the yellow crime-scene tape. “It sends chills down your spine,” said Ms. Feldman.

Though examiners will be leaving the site, there will still be a law enforcement presence in the area due to the home’s new notoriety.

“We’re putting cameras on the block. We’re going to have enforcement out there, vehicle and traffic enforcement, and we’re going to make sure that we’re not going to turn this into some kind of sideshow,” Nassau County police commissioner Patrick Ryder told the media Monday.

CBS New York is reporting that county officials will be placing “No Standing” signs outside the Heuermann property and will issue $150 summons to drivers who loiter in the road to view the home.
 
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From NY Magazine, Intelligencer:
My Boss, the Monster

"When I first met Rex Heuermann in his midtown office, his face turned red like that of a shy teenage boy who had been surprised by a hot girl in the cafeteria. (Even sitting behind his desk, he looked to me like a giant.) His office was mostly staffed by women like myself, young and petite, the girl-next-door type. We knew he was married with a family in Massapequa, but he never spoke of them. Just a few months earlier, authorities say he murdered his first known victim, 25-year-old Maureen Brainard-Barnes.

Heuermann and his firm specialized in building-code and zoning analysis. A former colleague of mine described how he worked closely with the Department of Buildings following the passage of the Americans With Disabilities Act to understand how to bring building design into compliance. During this time, he cemented his expertise and his relationships within the DOB, which could make or break any project. Whether or not he had any real political clout, he believed he did and tried to convince others that he did, too. If you needed a permit reconsidered, he said he could ask the examiner on their hunting trip that weekend on Long Island or upstate to hunt deer and elk with a rifle.

He famously loved guns, and we all knew that he was a collector. He would frequently invite colleagues to go hunting or shooting at the range, including one of my attractive co-workers that he seemed to mention the idea to every time they spoke. She never accepted the offer, confiding in me it sounded dangerous and creepy. My former colleagues described how he gushed about his bear-hunting trips in particular: baiting an area and lying in wait. More than once, he gleefully described the process of dressing the game, seeming to delight in grossing his employees out. Once, at a job site, he spotted a client approaching and, speaking to my boss over the phone, said, “Target in sight.” Around this time, authorities say, he made another call — the first of several — to taunt the family of his latest alleged victim, Melissa Barthelemy."
 
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is this pub allowed ?, apologies if not I can remove it!
The article mentions that “it is unknown why they recorded it” but it’s a damn good thing they did (I think they may have meant “kept” though instead of recorded since it was a message). If I had to guess, and since we also know he had a known history of picking up escorts, that Heuermann was known within the sex worker community. I’m assuming that the ones who were not killed by him were probably warning the other escorts that he was a “red flag” customer to help protect each other.
 
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The article mentions that “it is unknown why they recorded it” but it’s a damn good thing they did (I think they may have meant “kept” though instead of recorded since it was a message). If I had to guess, and since we also know he had a known history of picking up escorts, that Heuermann was known within the sex worker community. I’m assuming that the ones who were not killed by him were probably warning the other escorts that he was a “red flag” customer to help protect each other.

maybe he asked them if they knew about the LISK in his neighborhood...? mOO
 
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maybe he asked them if they knew about the LISK in his neighborhood...? mOO
I wouldn’t doubt it. He seemed to like to bring it up a lot..specifically around women.
 
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From NY Magazine, Intelligencer:
My Boss, the Monster

"When I first met Rex Heuermann in his midtown office, his face turned red like that of a shy teenage boy who had been surprised by a hot girl in the cafeteria. (Even sitting behind his desk, he looked to me like a giant.) His office was mostly staffed by women like myself, young and petite, the girl-next-door type. We knew he was married with a family in Massapequa, but he never spoke of them. Just a few months earlier, authorities say he murdered his first known victim, 25-year-old Maureen Brainard-Barnes.

Heuermann and his firm specialized in building-code and zoning analysis. A former colleague of mine described how he worked closely with the Department of Buildings following the passage of the Americans With Disabilities Act to understand how to bring building design into compliance. During this time, he cemented his expertise and his relationships within the DOB, which could make or break any project. Whether or not he had any real political clout, he believed he did and tried to convince others that he did, too. If you needed a permit reconsidered, he said he could ask the examiner on their hunting trip that weekend on Long Island or upstate to hunt deer and elk with a rifle."
Does this kind of wannabe behaviour remind anyone else of those other serial killers who always wanted to be cops or special forces or whatever but couldn't get in, and so they hang out at cop bars and buy exsquad cars and play pretend that they're the Big Man but at the same time, they secretly know they're not good enough, so they take that thwarted rage out on women (or whoever their chosen victims might be)?

RH strikes me as someone who wanted to be a mover and shaker in NY property and construction. As someone who has power and makes connections. And instead, he's this guy who's an awkward braggart with fashion still stuck in about 1979, whose home is filling up and falling down, who killed at least four vibrant, troubled, loved, complicated, young women because he can't handle what a nonevent his entire existence is without 'winning' by destroying somebody else, someone he knows he can destroy because he never picked a fight with anyone who stood a chance against him.

His devices are filled with communication with sex workers and searches for violent, disturbing SAM featuring women, teens, children, and 'twinks'. He's got enough guns for an army. He's put in jail and he has one question - 'is it in the news?'

I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it.

MOO
 
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AC victims were missing shoes & socks

As far as I know, Gilgo Beach victims were “missing personal items”. I never heard what those items were, specifically. I don’t know if that was ever disclosed.

The bail application states that the four Gilgo victims "all had missing clothing and personal possessions," that's from page 3 of the document. For me, that's vague - does it mean found completely nude? Does it mean partially clothed with some items missing? I would argue that "missing clothing" would not lead me to think only shoes and socks were missing like was the case for the AC 4.

As for personal possessions, in "Lost Girls," the author describes the items that Shannan would normally bring with her when she worked: "a tall soda from McDonald's, often spiked with vodka; a bag with extra clothes; her purse; a book from one of her online college classes; and a netbook she'd use to post and refresh her Craigslist profile."

One would assume that most women working the same way would bring similar personal possessions with them as they worked long hours and sometimes saw 7 or 8 clients each night (from the same source). I think this is why LE was searching for things like condoms, bibles - they are looking for stuff they knew these women had with them when they worked.
 
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Does this kind of wannabe behaviour remind anyone else of those other serial killers who always wanted to be cops or special forces or whatever but couldn't get in, and so they hang out at cop bars and buy exsquad cars and play pretend that they're the Big Man but at the same time, they secretly know they're not good enough, so they take that thwarted rage out on women (or whoever their chosen victims might be)?

RH strikes me as someone who wanted to be a mover and shaker in NY property and construction. As someone who has power and makes connections. And instead, he's this guy who's an awkward braggart with fashion still stuck in about 1979, whose home is filling up and falling down, who killed at least four vibrant, troubled, loved, complicated, young women because he can't handle what a nonevent his entire existence is without 'winning' by destroying somebody else, someone he knows he can destroy because he never picked a fight with anyone who stood a chance against him.

His devices are filled with communication with sex workers and searches for violent, disturbing SAM featuring women, teens, children, and 'twinks'. He's got enough guns for an army. He's put in jail and he has one question - 'is it in the news?'

I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it.

MOO

RBBM

Yes, indeed!

JMVHO.
 
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*I guess they did report a freezer and a fridge both being hauled away:

Some neighbors recalled that when Rex Heuermann's father lived in that same house, he used to go jogging. They said he went jogging with an axe. That rumor is unconfirmed.

One neighbor recalled walking past the house a few years ago, after a storm. Heuermann and his son were there, clearing the yard of branches, chopping the wood. “I guess you’ll have firewood for a year now,” said the neighbor. Heuermann nodded. But there was no conversation.

A refrigerator and a freezer were wheeled out of the house into vans around 2 p.m.
 
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Does this kind of wannabe behaviour remind anyone else of those other serial killers who always wanted to be cops or special forces or whatever but couldn't get in, and so they hang out at cop bars and buy exsquad cars and play pretend that they're the Big Man but at the same time, they secretly know they're not good enough, so they take that thwarted rage out on women (or whoever their chosen victims might be)?

RH strikes me as someone who wanted to be a mover and shaker in NY property and construction. As someone who has power and makes connections. And instead, he's this guy who's an awkward braggart with fashion still stuck in about 1979, whose home is filling up and falling down, who killed at least four vibrant, troubled, loved, complicated, young women because he can't handle what a nonevent his entire existence is without 'winning' by destroying somebody else, someone he knows he can destroy because he never picked a fight with anyone who stood a chance against him.

His devices are filled with communication with sex workers and searches for violent, disturbing SAM featuring women, teens, children, and 'twinks'. He's got enough guns for an army. He's put in jail and he has one question - 'is it in the news?'

I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'


No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it.

MOO

(BBM)
I agree with you, at least partially. But also, might he have been trying to assess just how screwed he was at that precise moment? Meaning, if it's not in the news, that would indicate the investigation might be at the early stages and he might breathe a sigh of relief that he's just a suspect and not THE SUSPECT. But if it's in the news, they've got enough evidence that they were willing to publicize that. I hope my rambling is coherent today.
 
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Does this kind of wannabe behaviour remind anyone else of those other serial killers who always wanted to be cops or special forces or whatever but couldn't get in, and so they hang out at cop bars and buy exsquad cars and play pretend that they're the Big Man but at the same time, they secretly know they're not good enough, so they take that thwarted rage out on women (or whoever their chosen victims might be)?

RH strikes me as someone who wanted to be a mover and shaker in NY property and construction. As someone who has power and makes connections. And instead, he's this guy who's an awkward braggart with fashion still stuck in about 1979, whose home is filling up and falling down, who killed at least four vibrant, troubled, loved, complicated, young women because he can't handle what a nonevent his entire existence is without 'winning' by destroying somebody else, someone he knows he can destroy because he never picked a fight with anyone who stood a chance against him.

His devices are filled with communication with sex workers and searches for violent, disturbing SAM featuring women, teens, children, and 'twinks'. He's got enough guns for an army. He's put in jail and he has one question - 'is it in the news?'

I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it.

MOO

"I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it."

He's just now an INFAMOUS LOSER!


BRAVA! Standing ovation.
 
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Thank you! I'm not sure what I'm seeing. It doesn't look as though there's a top on it. Unless, of course, It's a dog kennel and it's upside down.
Could be wrong but: in the photo the wire frame thing in the back of the truck appears to be on casters. I would suggest it is a security cart for evidence, that the investigators brought with them...

Something like this....

JMO
 
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*I guess they did report a freezer and a fridge both being hauled away:

Some neighbors recalled that when Rex Heuermann's father lived in that same house, he used to go jogging. They said he went jogging with an axe. That rumor is unconfirmed.

One neighbor recalled walking past the house a few years ago, after a storm. Heuermann and his son were there, clearing the yard of branches, chopping the wood. “I guess you’ll have firewood for a year now,” said the neighbor. Heuermann nodded. But there was no conversation.

A refrigerator and a freezer were wheeled out of the house into vans around 2 p.m.

Well, everyone's got a fridge and a freezer. And all of us have stains in the trays. Probably looking at that and if he stored any body parts in there.. < hated to even type that.
 

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