Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[SonsOfCain]

Did Rex Heuermann learn from serial killers with double lives?

After decades of notorious arrests, the hidden lives led by serial killers have drawn morbid public fascination while leaving their devastated relatives reeling.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Very interesting article! While I think it’s too soon to tell if he is/will be as prolific in terms of victims, I think he definitely fit in with the likes of Bundy, Gacy, and many others. The more I read things that give insight into his childhood and school years, the more it seems like it was the perfect storm in creating a monster. Classmates have come out and said:
1. His father not only died when he was 12 (just on the cusp of puberty for guys back then?), but he also had an unhealthy relationship with his mother. He was thrust into the position of becoming the “man of the house” before he was even a teenager.
2. A classmate described an incident from Heuermann’s childhood before his father died, where Heuermann had got caught shoplifting and apparently he and his father had a pretty bad clash over it.
3. He was bullied and shy as a child, but then underwent a growth spurt in high school and became menacing to others and was known to have a mean streak. Usually he was a loner/recluse.
4. (This is not from classmates, rather it comes from what they pulled out of his house when they searched it) We know he had a very extensive collection of pornography. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of those Playboys were saved from when he was younger.

I also personally believe he has to have some kind of addiction and I am willing to bet he drank.

Now, I just want to state that not all of the above descriptions means that everyone who has experienced trauma or hardship in their life is or will be a serial killer. But all of those things combined, coupled with the fact that this man is a dangerous psychopath, ticks off all of the “boxes” (so to speak) for the making of a serial killer. These are all known traits that a good majority of serial killers share in common.

I’m just waiting now to hear if he ever had some sort of head injury as a child too.

 

[Ruminations]

I feel like he would just pitch the bodies over the bramble from his truck bed. mOO

LE keeps calling it a dump, which is what they tend to say when it appears the victims were killed elsewhere.

But I imagine the newest bodies would show some evidence of a hostile-toss dump or a carry-out-and-place dump, with the bodies all lying neatly on their backs or in some position.

The easiest thing I can think of is putting wrapped bodies on a tarp and covering it with yard debris. Then dragging out the tarp, rolling the stuff out. It also makes the truck load seem fairly normal.

I guess it's people fishing trout who where those giant rubber boot/pants things? That seems like a good choice for the bramble, but I don't think they are for duck hunters.

MOO

 

[hazel324]

Sorry if this has been asked in the previous threads (was REALLY hard to keep up and I missed a load of posts )
What's everyone's thoughts on why they arrested him when they did?
I kinda think after he bought more minutes for his burner phone (per Bail Application) , they think he may have had another victim in mind ?

Eta - as well as pizza box dna and hair matching to wife results came back

moo

I think it's exactly as you say...once the phone was used to buy minutes and the dna confirmed (I believe pizza was recent) they felt they had enough forensic "proof" to seal the deal so to speak.

I believe he was under close 24hr surveillance...he was still interacting with SWs, imagine the uproar if he killed again as a prime suspect!

 

[fred&edna]

I guess it's people fishing trout who where those giant rubber boot/pants things? That seems like a good choice for the bramble, but I don't think they are for duck hunters.

MOO

I still don't know if duck hunting actually had anything to do with the murders (aside from the camo burlap). But, I think you might be describing "waders", and waders are used by duck hunters.

https://www.cabelas.com/l/hunting-waders

The Complete Guide to Duck Hunting Waders - Wildfowl

Stuck on which set of duck hunting waders to get as your first or next pair? We're here to help you make the right choice.

www.wildfowlmag.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Asa Ellerup and her son, Christopher Sheridan, received a grocery gift package from their neighbors

Police deliver neighbors’ care package to accused Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann’s wife: ‘Thinking of you’

“Thank you very much for the bag of food you dropped off,” Asa Ellerup, who filed for divorce earlier this month, told a Post photographer when she was spotted after the delivery.

nypost.com

 

[gregjrichards]

I’m please that law enforcement have delivered a care package to his family with some groceries and a kind note. It is a very kind of their neighbours to do this. My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims. I also can’t begin to imagine how devastated his family must be at what has happened. It is awful that his family have the media outside their house taking photos and video of them suffering and the press like the NYP are making advertising profit online from it.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I think it's exactly as you say...once the phone was used to buy minutes and the dna confirmed (I believe pizza was recent) they felt they had enough forensic "proof" to seal the deal so to speak.

I believe he was under close 24hr surveillance...he was still interacting with SWs, imagine the uproar if he killed again as a prime suspect!

What I’m trying to understand is how long he had had this burner phone? Did he have it for all of those years in between the last known murder until he was arrested? And then he had 10 years in between the murders to when LE had him on their radar since 2022 (1.5 years?) — yet suddenly they believe he’s ready to kill again? It doesn’t seem to add up.

 

[Ruminations]

I still don't know if duck hunting actually had anything to do with the murders (aside from the camo burlap). But, I think you might be describing "waders", and waders are used by duck hunters.

https://www.cabelas.com/l/hunting-waders

The Complete Guide to Duck Hunting Waders - Wildfowl

Stuck on which set of duck hunting waders to get as your first or next pair? We're here to help you make the right choice.

www.wildfowlmag.com

Yup. That's what I'd wear in the bramble.

<modsnip: off topic>

MOO

 

[dotr]

Asa Ellerup and her son, Christopher Sheridan, received a grocery gift package from their neighbors

Police deliver neighbors’ care package to accused Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann’s wife: ‘Thinking of you’

“Thank you very much for the bag of food you dropped off,” Asa Ellerup, who filed for divorce earlier this month, told a Post photographer when she was spotted after the delivery.

nypost.com

Brought me to tears, the pain, the humanity.

 

[fred&edna]

Brought me to tears, the pain, the humanity.

We read about so much tragedy, loss and horrific acts... it's refreshing and heart-lifting to see an act of kindness!

 

[Forest_Wood]

Asa Ellerup and her son, Christopher Sheridan, received a grocery gift package from their neighbors

Police deliver neighbors’ care package to accused Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann’s wife: ‘Thinking of you’

“Thank you very much for the bag of food you dropped off,” Asa Ellerup, who filed for divorce earlier this month, told a Post photographer when she was spotted after the delivery.

nypost.com

Those boxes with the police tape on them, would they be things that were returned to the family from LE? There seems to be quite a few there.

 

[LadyL]

I doubt he is a gambler because he appears greedy, able to do math calculations and understand the net probability of winning. There are some traits in him that many gamblers would have, such as loneliness and social awkwardness (the casinos welcome permanent guests and make them feel desired), so that fits. (And after all, Paddock was greedy and grouchy, too.) But I just don’t see RH leaving a lot of money in the casino.

who is Paddock?

 

[Diddian]

Asa Ellerup and her son, Christopher Sheridan, received a grocery gift package from their neighbors

Police deliver neighbors’ care package to accused Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann’s wife: ‘Thinking of you’

“Thank you very much for the bag of food you dropped off,” Asa Ellerup, who filed for divorce earlier this month, told a Post photographer when she was spotted after the delivery.

nypost.com

Thank God for such people.

 

[LadyL]

Very interesting article! While I think it’s too soon to tell if he is/will be as prolific in terms of victims, I think he definitely fit in with the likes of Bundy, Gacy, and many others. The more I read things that give insight into his childhood and school years, the more it seems like it was the perfect storm in creating a monster. Classmates have come out and said:
1. His father not only died when he was 12 (just on the cusp of puberty for guys back then?), but he also had an unhealthy relationship with his mother. He was thrust into the position of becoming the “man of the house” before he was even a teenager.
2. A classmate described an incident from Heuermann’s childhood before his father died, where Heuermann had got caught shoplifting and apparently he and his father had a pretty bad clash over it.
3. He was bullied and shy as a child, but then underwent a growth spurt in high school and became menacing to others and was known to have a mean streak. Usually he was a loner/recluse.
4. (This is not from classmates, rather it comes from what they pulled out of his house when they searched it) We know he had a very extensive collection of *advertiser censored*. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of those Playboys were saved from when he was younger.

I also personally believe he has to have some kind of addiction and I am willing to bet he drank.

Now, I just want to state that not all of the above descriptions means that everyone who has experienced trauma or hardship in their life is or will be a serial killer. But all of those things combined, coupled with the fact that this man is a dangerous psychopath, ticks off all of the “boxes” (so to speak) for the making of a serial killer. These are all known traits that a good majority of serial killers share in common.

I’m just waiting now to hear if he ever had some sort of head injury as a child too.

add arson and animal cruelty to the list

 

[LadyL]

dbm
I found it

 

[Deleted member 117884]

where was that reported?

It's been posted a few times on the thread. I think this was the first reference with a link on the thread, which is just a few posts upthread: Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #6

 

[Deleted member 117884]

What I’m trying to understand is how long he had had this burner phone? Did he have it for all of those years in between the last known murder until he was arrested? And then he had 10 years in between the murders to when LE had him on their radar since 2022 (1.5 years?) — yet suddenly they believe he’s ready to kill again? It doesn’t seem to add up.

He bought a burner phone for each of the 3 victims he is accused of murdering. Since he's under surveillance, perhaps LE noticed him purchasing again and monitored his communications. jmo

 

[LadyL]

It's been posted a few times on the thread. I think this was the first reference with a link on the thread, which is just a few posts upthread: Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #6

thank you
I found it two seconds after I posted

 

[hazel324]

What I’m trying to understand is how long he had had this burner phone? Did he have it for all of those years in between the last known murder until he was arrested? And then he had 10 years in between the murders to when LE had him on their radar since 2022 (1.5 years?) — yet suddenly they believe he’s ready to kill again? It doesn’t seem to add up.

Only RH really knows ALL he did throughout those 10 years....sure once he was definite suspect we can assume he didn't kill.

Details of evidence have been released since he was officially charged (and it's a LOT of detail compared with what we learn in NZ before it gets to Court!)

IMO, multiple investigations will be underway across multiple States - details won't be released until a case can be made.

Then there are the remains that have not even been found...and may never be found. So much unknown - of course!

What we don't know is what makes the details not add up - that's a fact of life.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

This video is very upsetting and I don’t understand why the press is there. The wife yells at them (and rightly so). They need to leave her alone.

Family of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann returns to Massapequa Park home

Heuermann's wife, Asa Ellerup, was visibly upset as she returned to the house and declined to comment.

longisland.news12.com

I don't blame her at all. Not a single one asked if they could help in any way. No body stopping by with brooms,mops, buckets to lend a helping hand. No words of support,or encouragement. Especially for the son. Poor kid. It must be so traumatizing. His whole special world has been thrown into utter chaos,and confusion. The wife,and daughter left in the horrific wake blind sided.