Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[SonsOfCain]

You just made a thought pop into my head…do you think it’s possible there were ripped out pages of a bible left with the victims? Is it possible that this was never disclosed?

Funny you say that because I was wondering the same thing.

 

[CuriousCricket]

I wonder if one of the victims was known to carry a small pocket bible in her purse and all of those personal items are missing?

I've known people who carried New Testaments.

 

[HecatesDaughter]

Someone asked me yesterday why I thought Heuermann, an architect, would allow his own home to look in such disrepair. I flippantly replied, " Because it's his childhood binky ? ". Later in the day I was sitting on the porch having coffee, and I recalled that conversation. The more I got to thinking about it, the more I started to think that I really, unintentionally , might have hit on something. Anyone who has ever had a child knows that a child's blankie is their security. They pitch a fit if you wash it, or try to sew it when it gets ratty, etc. etc. Basically, they want it exactly how it was when it first began to offer them comfort. If you think about RH's father dying when he was 12 years old (approaching puberty), and if the accounts of school mates are true that he was bullied and always left school and "had to get home to his mother "...that house could WELL be his security blanket.

(How's that for a goofy theory, InTheDetails ? )

I think you could honestly be onto something, even if he doesn't honestly know it himself. Sometimes it can be an unconscious thing. I have lived in this house most of my life, I've suffered in this house, I have great triggers in this house. But this is the house that is home for me. I can't fathom changing it a great deal or ever having it sold etc. It's what I know, what I've always known.

It could be the same for him. What he's known. Yeah I think upkeep would be in order, but, if it's how it always was you can overlook it. Especially if his focus was elsewhere like his double life. But I think you might be onto something from a psychological stand point.

 

[Ruminations]

They did have animals in the house as well

And an older animal could have sent fur to a crime scene via the murderer.

 

[waldojabba]

I think the Newsday article overestimates Heuermann's fees. Although the projects Heuermann was involved with may have totaled $68.1 million, the role he played may have been limited to expediting permits, analyzing code compliance and services other than design and construction documents. He would only get fees in the vicinity of 10% to 15% if he was the architect who signed and stamped the construction drawings. However, his services are of the type hired by other architects (and building owners) to facilitate navigating NYC's complex permit and code procedures. Heuermann's role would be limited, and he wouldn't get the entire fee unless he was responsible for the entire project, including design, construction documents and engineering consultants. IMO his fees would be much less.

The fee range noted is used by some architects, but others mainly use hourly fees.

totally agree @Warwick1991 - you don't always get big fees esp when you are low man on the totem pole. On the other hand if he was really good at what he did he could always negotiate. I guess it just depends upon how good his competition was and how many of them there are.
But lets just say for arguments sake "in the decades" leading up to the arrest he earned 10% of total project costs. So 10% of 68m is 6.8m.Divide that by a conservative 20 years ( it was longer) - and that leaves you with 340k a year to pay the rent on the office/pay your employees/ business taxes etc
Plus then pay yourself and support a household of 4. On Long Island. Sounds like a lot of money if you live in Oklahoma or a LCOL area IMO but not where he lived.

If these numbers are close - and I have no idea obvi - then he was living on a very tight budget IMO

 

[Deleted member 117884]

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It could be as easy as the grocery store where the employee said the wife shopped for years and years offered to deliver their groceries once a week for a month - they don't have to donate the groceries, just drive them to the house. It doesn't need to complicated, imo. She doesn't need to be housebound, but I myself would want to lay low until at least the press moves on to something else. If there is nothing to report at the house, the press won't stick around. But watching the wife walk to the grocery store is a photo op - so starve them of that opportunity for awhile.

jmo

 

[Dotta]

"Suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann was a 'loner' who developed a 'mean streak' after being bullied at high school.

Speaking at their 40 year high school reunion, former classmates of the architect, 59, described him as a 'victim' who had a difficult home life and a miserable time at school.

John Parisi told the New York Times: 'He got picked on a lot. He would take it and take it and walk away. I seen him pushed to his limit.'

Heuermann was described as 'awkward', and became 'larger and more menacing' in high school after students tortured him verbally.'

Parisi added: 'I was really scared of him. He was the type of guy if he snapped he could really hurt you.'

'He was disillusioned and he was misguided. You had to be very careful.'

Others described Heuermann as an 'outcast' and 'nerdy', who was in the drama club as a stagehand but had few friends."

Rex Heuermann's high school reunion classmates say he was a loner

Former classmates of the architect, 59, described him as a 'victim' who had a difficult home life and an even harder school one.

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[NyxNY]

IMO some who really "worked with the police dept" would not be making this call

Bingo.

 

[wcasewatch]

Photo of the house from 2001:

https://oddstops.com/i/2023/07/26/20230726182815-2001.webp

Looks pretty much the same? No color change in 22 years.

 

[Pinkizzy]

Secretly, deliciously thrilled that everyone is seeing his "work" and secretly, deliciously thrilled with the reactions of everyone. Somewhat terrified that NOW he'll be outed, but when he wasn't - very, very pleased with himself. Yep, I feel sure RH was there gawking with other Long Islanders as the bodies were discovered. I've been wondering if a lot of photos don't remain from those days to scan for him in the crowd.

I guess he called the documentary maker about the fake suspect from the aquarium because he was upset about the lack of media attention for his crimes. RH wanted to be caught and wanted his face on the news.

 

[HecatesDaughter]

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It could be as easy as the grocery store where the employee said the wife shopped for years and years offered to deliver their groceries once a week for a month - they don't have to donate the groceries, just drive them to the house. It doesn't need to complicated, imo. She doesn't need to be housebound, but I myself would want to lay low until at least the press moves on to something else. If there is nothing to report at the house, the press won't stick around. But watching the wife walk to the grocery store is a photo op - so starve them of that opportunity for awhile.

jmo

Right, I wasn't talking about donating the groceries, just making it easier for her to carry more at a time. My grandmother had a little cart that was kind of like a dolly with baskets for groceries and I just got one through my product testing that is for garden or groceries or whatever with heavy duty wheels for mixed terrain. That way she doesn't have to go out as often. But I know she herself has mobility issues, so maybe the cart would be too much for her to carry. I have issues like that myself, but I live in the boonies, I can't even get to the store anymore if I try to walk but I'm at the bottom of a huge hill. So I understand not being able to get all the groceries at once or having to go out multiple times a week just to get the basics. It's an already hard situation made harder by people lurking everywhere to grab pictures and videos of this poor family. It's stressful and confusing and disheartening for these poor people. -IMO

But I do agree that delivery would be the most charitable and viable option. I agree that starving the paparazzi is the best option here. I just wish it was a non-issue. I wasn't caught up so I didn't want to reply to messages so far back when people were talking about their privacy. People mentioned that if no money was made, if people didn't pay attention then it would die off. But the problem is the paparazzi and others like them, they will always push to the ultimate boundaries because the news and tabloids will always pay for those videos and pictures. It has to stop at their level.

The family absolutely deserves peace, time, and to heal from this. Unfortunately, the healing may not come until after trial and all the hoopla is done because how can they really move on until it's 'done'? Which let's face it, is it really ever? But the fact that they are pestering a family with a special needs child is despicable and beyond contemptible. People should be ashamed. But they figure, most likely that it's a kind of collateral damage, that whether they knew or not, they're associated, so that makes them part of the 'circus'. It isn't fair or right for them.

But this is my opinion, would we know or be speculating as much if we didn't know what we know about the family as well? How the family lived, the fact that they aren't involved. Think of the fact that we have discussed here how she has reacted, what she's done since, how she is managing now. We're even discussing her now with the way the house is in disarray etc. So in a way, as intrusive and awful as they are, and granted, we don't need pictures to go with them but those articles do provide a bit of insight into the entire picture so that we can sympathize but also make more deductions about the alleged killer, her husband. It really is a double edged sword here. In my very very humble opinion

(And I'm very sorry if anything I say isn't allowed. I have been making mistakes in my posts and I apologize profusely for it)

 

[HecatesDaughter]

Just read this article, guess they're closing avenues to other crime locations we've been speculating about. I'm glad they're considering all the scenes like SC and NV as well. But it would be nice to be a fly on the wall to know what's really going on. But I'm sure we won't really know until after and all the documentaries and specials come out. There's just so much that can't be released during an active investigation.

I did read a similar article on another platform that also mentioned that he was brought forth as a murder suspect leaving the house of a victim 13 years ago. I understand not having enough evidence etc. but what was done then? Was it just brushed off? Dismissed? How is it this man was allowed to hunt and continue to kill for another decade? I mean sheesh. I get circumstances but this is almost Dahmer and Bundy level mistakes having a killer practically handed to you and flubbing it for one reason or another but again I do understand do process and law enforcement having their hands tied without enough evidence etc, but why not make him at least a person of interest and try to surveil him a little and then make the call that he wasn't a suspect? (Though obviously he was)

Suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer not connected to unsolved Golden Key Motel murders: report

Police believe Rex Heuermann, the suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer, is not connected to the unsolved deaths of four sex workers in Atlantic City back in 2006, according to report.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Lyanna]

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[Ursamajr]

Photo of the house from 2001:

https://oddstops.com/i/2023/07/26/20230726182815-2001.webp

Looks pretty much the same? No color change in 22 years.

The color might be the same but the removal of the inclosed porch is a pretty big change.

 

[MrsPC]

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I'm confused - it shows tomorrow's appearance as an adjournment. Do you think that means it's been postponed?

 

[Lyanna]

I'm confused - it shows tomorrow's appearance as an adjournment. Do you think that means it's been postponed?

Think they're going to request postponing whilst in session?
IANAL and the US courts are very confusing (imo)

 

[Dhighsmith]

Just read this article, guess they're closing avenues to other crime locations we've been speculating about. I'm glad they're considering all the scenes like SC and NV as well. But it would be nice to be a fly on the wall to know what's really going on. But I'm sure we won't really know until after and all the documentaries and specials come out. There's just so much that can't be released during an active investigation.

I did read a similar article on another platform that also mentioned that he was brought forth as a murder suspect leaving the house of a victim 13 years ago. I understand not having enough evidence etc. but what was done then? Was it just brushed off? Dismissed? How is it this man was allowed to hunt and continue to kill for another decade? I mean sheesh. I get circumstances but this is almost Dahmer and Bundy level mistakes having a killer practically handed to you and flubbing it for one reason or another but again I do understand do process and law enforcement having their hands tied without enough evidence etc, but why not make him at least a person of interest and try to surveil him a little and then make the call that he wasn't a suspect? (Though obviously he was)

Suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer not connected to unsolved Golden Key Motel murders: report

Police believe Rex Heuermann, the suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer, is not connected to the unsolved deaths of four sex workers in Atlantic City back in 2006, according to report.

www.cbsnews.com

Lead police agency was involved with enormous corruption and prevented FBI from assisting.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

The color might be the same but the removal of the inclosed porch is a pretty big change.

Sad to think if the porch still existed, at least the family would have a bit more privacy when they sat there. Now, they are so exposed.

Ogre.

jmo

 

[Momoffourboys]

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It could be as easy as the grocery store where the employee said the wife shopped for years and years offered to deliver their groceries once a week for a month - they don't have to donate the groceries, just drive them to the house. It doesn't need to complicated, imo. She doesn't need to be housebound, but I myself would want to lay low until at least the press moves on to something else. If there is nothing to report at the house, the press won't stick around. But watching the wife walk to the grocery store is a photo op - so starve them of that opportunity for awhile.

jmo

They really don’t HAVE to leave the house if they don’t want to, as far as groceries and necessities. There is a stop n shop down the block that delivers, whole foods and we have every food delivery option for every restaurant/fast food. Hopefully the press will get bored and move on.

 

[HecatesDaughter]

I have a stupid question. And I say it's stupid because I'm sure it's been said somewhere and I've missed it in all my readings etc. Why are they called the Gilgo Four if there's only 3 victims? I'm catching up on a final article that's popped up just on my computer's breaking news and other articles. (Final as in for today, obviously not for the case)

I know over the country there have been quite a few victims like this and only 3 tied to RH so far. This might be a complicated question as well as a stupid one, I apologize again.