Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[kittythehare]

Isn't the township considering buying the house? Even if unfair to the family, moving to a new place might be cheaper and easier than trying to restore that place under current circumstances.

It's painful to think how much damage that ogre caused.

jmo

That may have been media speculating.

I think she should keep it and try to find a way to fix it up now that he no longer controls her.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Isn't the township considering buying the house? Even if unfair to the family, moving to a new place might be cheaper and easier than trying to restore that place under current circumstances.

It's painful to think how much damage that ogre caused.

jmo

The mayor said they will file a petition to purchase the home.

 

[Momoffourboys]

It’s awful what’s happened to them and their house, but her attorney is pointing the blame in the wrong direction. It is RH, the alleged murderer of the women who has done this to them. LE HAD to conduct their search and investigation, and to the full extent called for in the warrant and they cannot be limited by the fact that the subject of their search is a home where others live. Justice for the murder victims demands that evidence that probable cause indicates may be there be sought out, regardless of the damage that search entails.

Her attorney should instead be appealing for help on the basis that AE and her adult children are innocent victims too and the betrayal by RH has cost them in their own home.

So true.
i don’t see them getting any money from SCPD.
This is part of the investigation. Into a serial killer.

 

[HecatesDaughter]

Isn't the township considering buying the house? Even if unfair to the family, moving to a new place might be cheaper and easier than trying to restore that place under current circumstances.

It's painful to think how much damage that ogre caused.

jmo

Even if that is the case, I would think if they go anywhere while this case is 'hot' so to speak they could be recognized. And while they would have actions to take, those actions take time should they encounter any bias in looking for a new place such as being turned away or dealing with any sort of price gouging. Not to mention the cameras will follow them if they just pick up and move now. I think they would have to wait until there is less interest in them. It's most certainly just my opinion but they may have to stick it out a little bit longer. If only to not leave bread crumbs for them to be followed and start the whole mess over in a new home.

Granted the new home could be better equipped with curtains and such to help them keep their privacy. But I doubt anything the township offers would not be enough to purchase a new home and completely refurbish it as well. It would still be a great hardship. But like any narcissist RH he didn't think about them when he did all this

 

[investigatefred]

Hopefuly ,once Rex is hung out to dry , we can put those Manorville Victims in a stable place and figure that out . I just am not sure that Rex isnt involved in those other cases but it does seems clear if it was him his MO changed , so much that the crimes do not look like the other ones,which I really believe could happen over a 40 year killing spree.
Shannon mentioned Jones Beach in her 911 call, which I thought was interesting in relation to her being freaked out and thinking Mike set her up. Were there rumors amoung the sex workers working out of AC about Jones Beach? I remember gooogling through bad date post in the area but nothing stood out to me .
Jessica wants her murder solved ,she had to be found twice ,I have this feeling about dog hair they were hoping to find at Rex's but didnt.
Anyway I had one time heard that JT had lived in Orange county VA during her high school years does anyone have any notes on this?

I did not see Jessica listed in any of the Orange County VA high school yearbooks from the late 90's-early 2000's. There is and has only been 1 high school in that county. If she lived there, I would guess she would've been very young and not in her teen years. This website says she's originally from Poughkeepsie, and sounds like her pimp took her between DC/NY. Murdered: Jessica Taylor | Manorville, NY | Uncovered

 

[investigatefred]

Even if that is the case, I would think if they go anywhere while this case is 'hot' so to speak they could be recognized. And while they would have actions to take, those actions take time should they encounter any bias in looking for a new place such as being turned away or dealing with any sort of price gouging. Not to mention the cameras will follow them if they just pick up and move now. I think they would have to wait until there is less interest in them. It's most certainly just my opinion but they may have to stick it out a little bit longer. If only to not leave bread crumbs for them to be followed and start the whole mess over in a new home.

Granted the new home could be better equipped with curtains and such to help them keep their privacy. But I doubt anything the township offers would not be enough to purchase a new home and completely refurbish it as well. It would still be a great hardship. But like any narcissist RH he didn't think about them when he did all this

I can't imagine being in the families shoes. Whether they stay in Massapequa or go elsewhere, their names will likely always carry a stigma simply for being related to this monster.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Even if that is the case, I would think if they go anywhere while this case is 'hot' so to speak they could be recognized. And while they would have actions to take, those actions take time should they encounter any bias in looking for a new place such as being turned away or dealing with any sort of price gouging. Not to mention the cameras will follow them if they just pick up and move now. I think they would have to wait until there is less interest in them. It's most certainly just my opinion but they may have to stick it out a little bit longer. If only to not leave bread crumbs for them to be followed and start the whole mess over in a new home.

Granted the new home could be better equipped with curtains and such to help them keep their privacy. But I doubt anything the township offers would not be enough to purchase a new home and completely refurbish it as well. It would still be a great hardship. But like any narcissist RH he didn't think about them when he did all this

I really mean for their ease in the moment, to not fatigue themselves beyond what is tolerable. I would think moving to a place where they can take a bath without a half the tub missing and where you don't have to move literally move a ton of furniture to find a chair would be easier than fixing up the house on their own, where literally everything is jumbled and ripped up. Right now, I'd put priority on conserving strength because, unfortunately, the struggle is going to be a long haul.

But, not my business. I wish her well.

jmo

 

[dotr]

I really mean for their ease in the moment, to not fatigue themselves beyond what is tolerable. I would think moving to a place where they can take a bath without a half the tub missing and where you don't have to move literally move a ton of furniture to find a chair would be easier than fixing up the house on their own, where literally everything is jumbled and ripped up. Right now, I'd put priority on conserving strength because, unfortunately, the struggle is going to be a long haul.

But, not my business. I wish her well.

jmo

Maybe an RV can be leased for the family to stay in on the property for a little while?

 

[SkylarSid]

Donate to Help Asa Ellerup Start a New Life, organized by Melissa Moore

Today, Asa has broken her silence on the front porch of the home that may or may not h… Melissa Moore needs your support for Help Asa Ellerup Start a New Life

www.gofundme.com

Just trying to put that at the top of page. It is a page about RH, but this is for charity of victims left in his aftermath.

 

[LadyL]

This.

No stretch to imagine that he controlled how others moved within the home. Rooms no one was allowed into. I know of such a situation. No serial killing but inherited home, hoarding, serious social/mental dysfunctioning. The original parents' (notably the mother's) bedroom, maintained, almost like a shrine, no one allowed in. An office, walled in by stacks of newspapers and magazines, another room into which no one dared to go. Whole house in disrepair, rife with a million unfinished projects. And the argument: yes, I'll get to it but I don't have unlimited time. I work hard to provide for you.

Subtext: don't question me, don't make demands. Learn to live with it. Learn your place.

For them: good morning, Cognitive Dissonance. Hello, Powerlessness and Resignation.

IMO you're right. The whole house was his binky, his comfort zone. In the state it was. Don't wash his binky, don't fix his binky, don't touch his binky, don't question his binky.

Yikes.

it's a pretty small house - I don't think they had any extra rooms - they would need at least 3 bedrooms and it's one floor aside from the basement dungeon ... BUT it wouldn't surprise me if his basement lair was off limits to the family

 

[LadyL]

Partially agree with your post. Although there's no comparison to what victim Ms. is going through compared to others in the neighborhood who may be experiencing another type of hardship - where would the grocery store draw the line? If you assist one - you should assist all, imo.

Victim Ms. should not have to isolate because of her husband's actions. I get that we are a curious society and media no respect for boundaries.

moo

the rest of the street has freedom to do their errands without being hounded IMO

 

[LadyL]

That fund raiser needs to happen, they need to hire a skip and buy some new things with the proceeds of the funding.

it seems very obvious that she has no money of her own at all.
I'm mentally adding slavery to his list of crimes, he probably controlled every cent.
i think it's right she reclaims her home, her social structures and whatever help she receives for her son, if any are in proximity to that address.

She talks about her 3000$ greenhouse. not an awful lot of money but huge to her.. it would be great if neighbours bought her a new one and got her some plants to start over... she needs that contact with plants, it seems.

She again, demonstrates great love for her children.
She improvises well, she didn't lie down and die, she sorted makeshift beds..
they are together and together they will be able to face it.

She's no longer angry at the media, saving her energy for her priorities, existence.
i wish her the best and that she regains her strength and will to move forward and I think it's likely she is motivated to do that now, if not for herself, for her children.

It's early days yet however.

I continue to hope she will not relent and go visit him because she will lose all public support, if she has any, if she weakens in that regard, she will also lose herself and right now she is all she has.

Forward Sister!
3 magic words
DON'T LOOK BACK!

[bbm]

what's a skip?

 

[iamshadow21]

[bbm]

what's a skip?

A dumpster, like the sort people get for construction/demolition waste.

 

[LadyL]

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Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said while there were many things taken from the dilapidated and cluttered home — including many guns stored in a basement vault — there wasn't any key piece of evidence found.

"I think everyone wanted that singular piece of evidence but I don’t think there’s any one thing that jumps out at us at this juncture," said Tierney.

He did not offer further details on what specific items were found in the home, but did say it appears no human remains were discovered during a search of Heuermann's backyard. As for whether any of the three women he is charged with killing were actually murdered at the home, Tierney said that "evidence doesn’t point one way or the other."

‘Massive amount' of material taken from home alleged Gilgo Beach killer Rex Heuermann

Investigators finished with their digging up of the backyard of alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann after police searched the home in connection to the Gilgo Beach case — and walked away with what they described as a “massive amount” of potential evidence.

www.nbcnewyork.com

and this:

He says there's no clear evidence either way if anyone was killed at the house.

"Evidence does not point either one way or the other. I would say we have obtained a massive amount of material," Tierney said.

Gilgo Beach Murders: Investigators wrap up search of Rex Heuermann's Massapequa Park home

Investigators say a massive amount of potential and trace evidence was gathered.

www.cbsnews.com

and this:

There was “not one thing that jumps out” among the evidence at this point, he said.

Long Island police dodge questions about evidence in Rex Heuermann home

Suffolk County District Attorney Raymond Tierney says a ‘massive amount of evidence’ has been recovered from the suspect’s family home in Massapequa Park

www.independent.co.uk

here's the thing - the absence of a 'key' piece of evidence = no evidence of a crime committed there IMO so I'll just add JMO to my post (edit time has passed so I've reported my comment for mod intervention)

 

[LeahBee]

It's going to take them quite some time to go through everything they took from the property, to even find out if any of it is relevant at all imo

 

[LadyL]

It's going to take them quite some time to go through everything they took from the property, to even find out if any of it is relevant at all imo

oh I think some of it will be relevant - I just don't think there will be any evidence that a crime (such as murder) was committed there (and for the family's sake, I hope not) JMO

 

[FromGermany1]

There were cats and dogs in the household, although Idk when exactly. If LE found AE's and RH's hair on the victims, I would expect some animal hair also. We will see, whether it will turn up.
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The neighbours also reported that Heuermann's dog was often left outside, barking incessantly and causing disruptions to the neighbourhood.

Gilgo Beach suspect's neighbour 'heard him drunkenly talking about the girls'

Neighbours of the Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect, Rex Heuermann, described him as intimidating, with one neighbour recounting a confrontation where he talked about 'the girls'

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[TootsieFootsie]

what's a skip?

We call them skip bins here. I'm in Australia.

 

[sds71]

The spotlight on the family has attracted onlookers who show up at the home “just to get a glimpse of what’s going on at the house,” Macedonio said.

Ellerup has been in touch with Heuermann since his arrest, the attorney said, though he did not provide further details.

The wife and children have also received support, Macedonio said, including from the daughter of serial killer Keith Hunter Jesperson, the so-called “Happy Face Killer.”

“It’s been extremely overwhelming for her and the children trying to piece life back together to what it was two and a half weeks ago,” Macedonio said. “I don’t know if they’re ever going to return to normalcy, but day by day she’s getting better.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/01/us/rex-heuermann-wife-gilgo-beach-killings-home/index.html

 

[kittythehare]

[bbm]

what's a skip?

It's like a large rubbish container, people use them when moving home or doing a mega clear out etc