Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #6

[Diddian]

Hoping his appearance in court today stimulates the memory of past interactions with SW's, other women he may have approached, or other potential witnesses who may have valuable information about him to share with LE.

It had earlier been reported that his attorney might ask if RH could skip the hearing today but that the judge would likely not allow it. I wonder if his attorney wanted him to skip the hearing to avoid recognition by others who might come forward with information. (BBM below.)

According to a court calendar, Heuermann is scheduled to appear before Judge Timothy Mazzei for an 8 a.m. status conference in Suffolk County Court in Riverhead, N.Y.

But the hearing likely won't take place until 2 p.m., court officials told The Messenger.

Defense attorney Michael J. Brown may ask that Heuermann, who's being held without bail, be allowed to skip the hearing, a court source said.

But that request isn't likely to be granted, the source added.

Brown could also seek to have bail set for Heuermann but officials haven't gotten any indication that will happen, the source said.

Accused Gilgo Beach Long Island Serial Killer Rex Heuermann Due Back in Court Tuesday

He's charged with six counts of murder in the deaths of Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman and Amber Costello; Judge Timothy Mazzei may set a trial date

themessenger.com

 

[curiouser_]

But there was a problem: The homicide detectives chasing the lead were bordering on mutiny.

Prosecutors believed the detectives refused to follow orders and clashed with federal partners, multiple high-level law enforcement officials familiar with the case said. Detectives, meanwhile, felt that the district attorney at the time, Tim Sini, was forcing them to investigate leads they had already ruled out while ratcheting up pressure to solve the case before his 2021 reelection bid. The tension grew so high that, at Sini’s urging, the case’s longtime lead detective was removed.

I am gifting this article, it's important enough.

https://wapo.st/47fzglV

Thank you so much!

 

[hazel324]

Case Details - Motions

Why would they have buccal swab under motions?

Can you explain what "under motions" means please...

 

[Momoffourboys]

Suspected Gilgo Beach killer Rex Heuermann gives off icy stare in court, as prosecutors hand over ‘massive amount’ of evidence

Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann made his second court appearance Tuesday, looking annoyed and stone-faced as prosecutors dumped a “massive amount” of evidence on his lap.

nypost.com

next court date 9/27

 

[hazel324]

I've been thinking about just how many SWs RH will have had interactions with over the years...from replying to an ad, talking with, meeting, engaging in business etc.

2 things - there will be those who have talked with LE about the encounters either voluntarily or those who've been found via surveillance, analysing phone records etc. They will have been told not to talk about it to media for obvious reasons if they have incriminating info

I'm wondering how many women have come forward and talked to media about encounters with him (I've seen report of just one woman)

Does anyone know about media interviews conducted ?

The illegality of the business and that it is often hidden from family will be huge factors as to why dozens of "I dated RH" stories haven't emerged imo

 

[dotr]

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I imagine not everything that they took from the house, or maybe damaged and/or destroyed at the house while searching was his.

Apart from the damage to bath and floor etc.

There would most likely be things that belonged to his wife and son and daughter's that either been taken away or damaged.

I wonder if her devices were looked at too, and/or taken away.

Imagine going back there and finding the mattresses gone

 

[TootsieFootsie]

. I bet you haven't even thought that they might have the wrong guy."

The thought has crossed my mind.

 

[Barbie619]

So they have gathered 8GB of evidence (I read 8TB elsewhere, presumably those are two very different figures?).

Is that a lot of evidence by usual SK standards, or equivalent high profile/serious crime cases? I realise no two cases are the same....

I just don't understand how even with the little evidence we have seen that is so compelling what possible case his lawyer would have to prove his innocence at this stage?

Is it possible there as an accomplice who was with him during all those calls / tower pings that tallied between the burner/victim phones and RH's mobile?

UK Independent: Rex Heuermann appears in court as prosecutors turn over ‘8 gigabytes’ of evidence

"Mr Heuermann joined his attorneys and the Suffolk County district attorney for a conference at the Suffolk County Court regarding the schedule for handling the massive amounts of discovery.

“This is a 13-year case, so as you saw we have a great deal of information, evidence photographs, reports to provide to the defence counsel,” district attorney Ray Tierney told reporters.

Authorities revealed that a “massive amount” of evidence had been recovered from Mr Heuermann’s home in Massapequa"

ETA: source title

One terabyte is equal to 1,000 gigabytes. For example using the internet for 12 hours on your phone streaming music and then watching 2 hours of a standard definition movie uses 1 gigabyte of data.

Based on what Tierney said during his presser, 2,500 documents and hundreds of hours of video tells me it is probably 8 terabytes of data and not 8 gigabytes.

 

[x_files]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686457576781660171

real hair or a cheap toupee? anyone know?

 

[ArianeEmory]

real hair or a cheap toupee? anyone know?

I continue my opinion from when this first came up: they’re not going to let him have a wig. He just has unruly hair.

 

[x_files]

I continue my opinion from when this first came up: they’re not going to let him have a wig. He just has unruly hair.

ok, that makes sense. It looks like his hair doesn't fit his head though. Maybe he shaves his sideburns too high.

 

[Barbie619]

Stress and a narcissist who wants what food he wants and not prison food. Or the commissary junk you can get. Who knows what's going on in there but I doubt it's stress making him thin. It might not be helping but IMHO it isn't stress that is slimming his waistline. And for all we know his lawyer got him a waist trainer or something. There's plenty of ways to look better for cameras etc.

EDIT: Actually on closer examination, he looks more weathered, older, droopier in the face not really thinner. His waistline looks the same. And given that people would be losing from your waistline first (more or less) than your face, for him to look that way. Maybe you're right and it is a bit of stress though, if you drink the proper amount of water your face will slim down so maybe he's drinking more in prison than eating which could account for his 'thinner' face. That's one thing that is abundant in lockup, water. Yeah, if you do commissary there's plenty of sugar and salt to go around but if you mostly stick to the 3 meals instead you're filling the gap with water.

This is very much based off my watching 60 days in (I don't take it as an absolute it's still very much a reality show to me and I don't trust reality shows to not be somewhat scripted) I've never been in the prison system or known anyone who was to the degree that we discussed how it was on the inside, and things have changed very much since then any way especially since COVID.

I just get this image of him sitting with his arms folded at a table all alone just being either testy about everything or being treated like some king because he's accused of being an accused serial killer. I don't remember the entire hierarchy of prisons/jail and if I deep dive into a google search right now I feel like my eyes will fall out. I've had a lot more screen time lately and my eyes have been blurry for two days and I think I need a break but I'm desperate to stay caught up with all of you. But...Self care first! Amiright?!

You are right! I did it over the weekend and up to today. It really helps to get refocused.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I imagine not everything that they took from the house, or maybe damaged and/or destroyed at the house while searching was his.

Apart from the damage to bath and floor etc.

There would most likely be things that belonged to his wife and son and daughter's that either been taken away or damaged.

I wonder if her devices were looked at too, and/or taken away.

Imagine going back there and finding the mattresses gone

“He added police seized the family's passports, computers, phones and iPads as part of the investigation. “

Family of Gilgo Beach serial killer suspect Rex Heuermann return home

Asa Ellerup and her two children, Victoria, 26, and Christopher, 32, looked solemn as they arrived back at the torn-up property at 10.30am Thursday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686453091409752064

Angenette Levy
@Angenette5

#RexHeuermann attorney Michael Brown: We're not going to try this case in the press... I bet you haven't even thought that they might have the wrong guy."
@LawCrimeNetwork #LISK

Nope!
Nor crossed my mind one bit.

 

[Insightful1]

I had this thought. Isn’t there a name for that? Is it “Burking”?

Here’s a great article on Burking. When you Burke someone they die by asphyxiation but I understand that you mean a specific act. Burking Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

 

[kittythehare]

real hair or a cheap toupee? anyone know?

real dyed

 

[kittythehare]

I've never heard of anyone using them for moving home.

You just throw rubbish in them.
Yes the big clean out.
You hire them for a day or two, or a week and the company comes and takes them away.

generally when one moves home, one offloads unnecessary baggage..

 

[kittythehare]

Here’s a great article on Burking. When you Burke someone they die by asphyxiation but I understand that you mean a specific act. Burking Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

Burking Law and Legal Definition​

Burking means the crime of murdering a person, ordinarily by smothering, for thepurpose of selling the corpse.
The term derives its name from the method William Burke and William Hare, the Scottish murder team of the 19th century, used to kill their victims during the West Port murders. They realized that they could provide fresher bodies to medical schools for research by taking people who were intoxicated and suffocating them because they could not resist. That became known as burking. [Titlow v. Burt, 2010 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 111459 (D. Mich. 2010)].
They killed the victims by sitting on their chests and suffocating them by putting a hand over their nose and mouth, while using the other hand to push the victim's jaw up. The corpses had only few visible injuries, and this made the corpses more salable to medical schools.
The following is an example of a case law referring to the term:
The term "burking" was named after William Burke, who along with an accomplice in 1815, killed a number of people and sold their bodies to medical schools in Edinburgh, Scotland. Burke and his accomplice would follow and kill intoxicated individuals by one of them holding a hand over the victim's nose and mouth, while the other would sit on the victim's chest until he or she died of asphyxia. [ Tabish v. State, 119 Nev. 293, 321 (Nev. 2003)].

Legal Definition list​

• Burke Act
• Burke
• Buried-Facts Doctrine
• Burial Site
• Burial Insurance
• Burking
• Burkism
• Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act of 2003
• Burn Rate
• Burning Cost
• Burning to Defraud Insurer

(cos it took me 20 attempts , at least to complete their crazy puzzles to enter the site, I'll spare everyone the journey)

 

[TootsieFootsie]

generally when one moves home, one offloads unnecessary baggage..

Oh sorry I misunderstood your post to mean some used it for moving their belongings when they moved home