Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[Dhighsmith]

I think it's interesting that his wife has never said she believes he's innocent.

Her immediate action of filing for divorce answers that question for me. Although, she could also just be distancing herself and the children from an ugly situation that’s likely to continue for some time.

 

[ISeeSociopaths]

I'm more or less saying that Schaller might be lying about something. And I don't think Heuermann is LISK. A more likely suspect is Bittrolff. There's that odd little connection between Rita Tangredi's daughter and Melissa Barthélemy. They were the best of friends.

Go back and review the case. How do you explain his wife’s hair on 3 victims? His hair on 1 victim? A belt had his Grandfather’s initials. The victim’s phones, his cell phone(s) and his burner phones pinging in the same locations. This evidence overwhelming points to Heurermann.

 

[Dhighsmith]

That's according to Alisa Bernard, a former prostitute who now works with the advocacy group World Without Exploitation as its national campaign manager.

“In my opinion, if women had learned how to screen out bad guys in our lives, we would have started doing that generations ago,” she said, adding, that it’s “a victim blaming way” to point out that the women who were killed “just didn't screen well enough.”

Bernard, who is white, said that most of the people working in the sex industry are disproportionately women of color, LGBTQ folks, and the impoverished.

Similar to some, she did experience sexual abuse in her childhood and she was a teenage runaway.

“Things just kind of led from there,” she added.

Gilgo Case Shows There's No Way To Screen For Killers, Advocate Says

"There's a misconception that somehow we can screen out the bad guys, like there's a difference between a good buyer and a bad buyer."

patch.com

I couldn’t even properly screen a husband that I knew since high school so I don’t expect them to have any better insight.

 

[acutename]

How many of those 15.136 possible matches also have DNA in their household that matchs the other DNA found with the victims (Heuermann's)??

You're the stats/% puller - can you let me now? How many Long Island household's have DNA that match both him and her within them ... because DNA from both of them was found.

I failed Grade 10 math and had to repeat, but I think the answer really dwindles down that 15.136 to ... ONE household.shed hair

all they had to do was go to the garden center or the sports store together and shed hair on the burlap...or maybe just one of them could have shed hair off their clothing. As far as the DNA, RH would have a better defense if he had a lot of cocktail parties and there was more cross contamination, IMO. But the whole burner phone thing - how to explain that away?

 

[Charlot123]

I can't even imagine having a conversation with a spouse who is in jail for being an alleged serial killer. I'd be livid, and aside from many choice words, can't imagine I'd have much to say that couldn't just be relayed through my attorney. I'd cut full ties. JMO.

However, they have two kids, one on state help but disabled. The other one, until recently, working in dad’s company. Lots of things involved, health insurance, payroll. Maybe the daughter misses the father. I can imagine how it might be difficult. Anger will come later. Now, A. probably needs to untangle her life from his.

 

[RichardKimble]

Go back and review the case. How do you explain his wife’s hair on 3 victims? His hair on 1 victim? A belt had his Grandfather’s initials. The victim’s phones, his cell phone(s) and his burner phones pinging in the same locations. This evidence overwhelming points to Heurermann.

How different systems are in different countries, none of the above would be known to the public here in the UK until its heard in court lest it could alter the outcome if a juror knew before.

 

[FromGermany1]

“Our clients at this point are living a waking nightmare,” Mitev said. “They’re doing the best they can, but obviously emotionally, mentally, and physically they are reeling.”

“It’s their only home,” he added.

Attorney for Gilgo Beach murder suspect’s family: ‘Living a waking nightmare’

MASSAPEQUA PARK, N.Y. (PIX11) – The adult children of Rex Heuermann, who is accused in the deaths of three women found at Gilgo Beach in 2010, have hired a lawyer. Attorney Vess Mitev joined the PI…

pix11.com

bbm

Well, it is their only home - BUT heavily contaminated twice meanwhile, IMO: by RH plus the police search crew. Idk, if I wanted to live there again (rather not).

 

[FromGermany1]

OR - Negasi Zuberi, 29, linked to 4 violent sexual assaults, kidnapped woman kept in makeshift cell in garage, Klamath Falls, 16 July '23 *Arrest*

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-escaped-oregon-cell-other-victims-rcna97794 Aug. 2, 2023, 3:58 PM EDT rbbm By Marlene Lenthang and Andrew Blankstein ''A "violent sex assault offender" accused of holding a kidnapped woman captive in a makeshift cinderblock cell in his Oregon garage may...

www.websleuths.com

What is it with the number 4 and the sum of victims constantly?

 

[FromGermany1]

From the descriptions of what MBB, AC and MW wore on their last sightings, I’ve always thought that their killer was looking for that “FGE.” For MB, who appears to have been the one (of the GB4) RH fixated the most on, there is no one who spoke as to what she was last seen wearing. But, Johnny Terry, aka Blaze, did say she had a regular client on LI and for overnights she could make $1,000. An overnight sounds like a FGE. IMO.

These abbrevations always, OMG. FGE. Something to do with "girlfriend"?? Then I found it.

 

[FromGermany1]

Oopsies. Sorry.
She says her future is very uncertain and that the neighbors want the house gone.
“They want this house bulldozed”

Really not nice for AE to hear something like that by a neighbor, but she perhaps doesn't know yet, what neigbors thought about the house before the husband's arrest.

 

[Sheila Terranova]

So is it Schaller who's claiming that the Frankenstein-looking guy was driving a Chevrolet Avalanche and was scammed by Amber Costello the very night before she disappeared? And that "Frankenstein" was the same guy who called and offered her $1500 and wanted to leave her phone behind? Or is it just the same burner phone involved in the calls and the messages? And why would anyone let her go with the same guy she scammed, especially if he was an ogre-looking guy who seemed VERY anxious to see her again, at another place and without her phone?

1. Money
2. Naturally having a personality that is trusting naive….no one expects to meet a serial killer snd be tortured and murdered.in fact, most people can’t believe they are around. (We follow these crimes. We know. Have you ever tried to convince a young girl, daughter, etc, to be more careful? Close the shades? Don’t go out late at night alone drinking? Jog in well populated areas not forlorn hiking trails? Etc etc and they get frustrated with you? They think it is impossible. humans weirdly can’t conceive what they haven’t experienced …the more gruesome the less likely people are to believ it is possible. I survived a lot of violence and was blamed for mentioning it despite police and medical records etc. people just don’t think it’s possible. Particularly with a man they met.) So amber and her boyfriend Pooh-poohed their fears and she got in the car.
3. Why did she agree no cellphone? Maybe she felt guilty about ruse … wanted or desperately needed $1500.00, and thought what he said made sense. (Maybe he said something like so you don’t call your boyfriend to scam me again,) he is very intelligent. That’s a problem.

 

[Vern]

all they had to do was go to the garden center or the sports store together and shed hair on the burlap...or maybe just one of them could have shed hair off their clothing. As far as the DNA, RH would have a better defense if he had a lot of cocktail parties and there was more cross contamination, IMO. But the whole burner phone thing - how to explain that away?

And that burlap just happened to show up with two different vicims deposited at two different times; I don't find that scenario "reasonable". Not given that no else's DNA was also found with/on it ... ie: the individual who just happened to buy it and use it from the garden store.

 

[dotr]

rbbm

What We Know About the Gilgo Beach Murders Case

The evidence against Rex Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect, includes 2,500 documents and hundreds of hours of video footage.

time.com

''Officials said they connected Heuermann to the tragedy through various methods, including DNA testing that matched a hair found on Waterman’s body. Police also say that the victims all received phone calls from locations that were near Heuermann’s homes in Massapequa Park and Manhattan. His Chevrolet Avalanche truck also matched the description of a car seen by a witness before one of the victims disappeared.

During the 12-day search of Heuermann’s Long Island home, which wrapped on July 25, police found about 279 weapons, including “quite a few long guns” in a basement vault and more than 90 handgun permits. Police said there was no particular “piece of evidence” that stood out, but are still sorting through the evidence. “We won’t know exactly what we have for quite some time, just given the sheer volume of evidence that was taken,” said Suffolk County district attorney Ray Tierney''

''Heuermann has pleaded not guilty and will appear in court again on Sept. 27 for another pre-trial conference.''

 

[imstilla.grandma]

• Police infighting illustrates "dysfunction" in the case
• Apparent apathy toward sex-worker victims also slowed case

 

[Ruminations]

1. Money
2. Naturally having a personality that is trusting naive….no one expects to meet a serial killer snd be tortured and murdered.in fact, most people can’t believe they are around. (We follow these crimes. We know. Have you ever tried to convince a young girl, daughter, etc, to be more careful? Close the shades? Don’t go out late at night alone drinking? Jog in well populated areas not forlorn hiking trails? Etc etc and they get frustrated with you? They think it is impossible. humans weirdly can’t conceive what they haven’t experienced …the more gruesome the less likely people are to believ it is possible. I survived a lot of violence and was blamed for mentioning it despite police and medical records etc. people just don’t think it’s possible. Particularly with a man they met.) So amber and her boyfriend Pooh-poohed their fears and she got in the car.
3. Why did she agree no cellphone? Maybe she felt guilty about ruse … wanted or desperately needed $1500.00, and thought what he said made sense. (Maybe he said something like so you don’t call your boyfriend to scam me again,) he is very intelligent. That’s a problem.

Maybe he didn't ask her to leave the phone; she may have decided she didn't need it.

 

[NyxNY]

Behind-the-scenes look at human trafficking unit that helped nab alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer

The Suffolk County Human Trafficking Unit gave Eyewitness News a behind the scenes look inside the county jail and describes their pivotal role in helping track down the alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer.

abc7ny.com

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The unit is comprised of all women: three female correctional officers in constant search of the signs.

"While they're here, our investigators walk through daily, checking in on them, seeing whatever custody support we can give and then by the end of the week, we take them out and do a one-on-one interview with everyone," Meunkle said.

Slowly, the officers gain their trust, even identifying several sex workers who encountered accused Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann.

Their interviews assisted the Suffolk County Sheriff's Office in their role in the Gilgo Beach homicide investigation to build a case against Heuermann.

Erin She is wonderful

 

[NyxNY]

These abbrevations always, OMG. FGE. Something to do with "girlfriend"?? Then I found it.

Edit: Nevermind, found it ::blushing::

 

[dotr]

''Premiered 12 hours ago #RexHeuerman #GilgoFour #CourtTV
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[Pavor Nocturnus]

Why where the victims placed on the north side of Ocean Parkway if Heuermann is the killer and lives at 105 1st Avenue in Massapequa Park? Wouldn't he have taken Wantagh State Parkway to get to Gilgo Beach? Why drive past Lindenhurst and Babylon?

MOO

 

[NyxNY]

''Premiered 12 hours ago #RexHeuerman #GilgoFour #CourtTV
"It's horrifying." Taking a live look at the area where #RexHeuerman allegedly murder three of the #GilgoFour in Long Island, New York. Court TV's Matt Johnson is live at the crime scene, taking a deeper look into where Suffolk County Police began to look for the bodies.''

BBM

A little misleading, but most likely an oversight. There is no indication that they were murdered there. LE has stated, and I think it is obvious, that they were "dumped" there. The murders took place elsewhere.