Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Harrison seemed to gloss over any of the prior corruption within the SCPD and DA’s office. He completely dismissed any possibility that SG was murdered. These are likely the reasons why many members here were disenchanted by this interview.

Thanks to all that watched the most recent in studio discussion with the Police commissioner. I could only make it about 5 minutes in……

From reports I am seeing and this thread, I gave up on the video as it seems like two ‘end runs’ from it. 1) We got this suspect and how great this is…… and 2) apparent belief (disbelief?!) that Ms. Gilbert’s demise was an ‘accident’, and thus no apparent further investigation on it?

And I am not disavowing that they have made an arrest. It is just as many have noted, there are many victims, some still not identified as I recall, and the unfortunate incident of Ms. Gilbert.

MOO

 

[GoBuckeyes]

This type of Presser would never happen in Australia.

It would happen behind the scenes between lawyer and client.

I found it distasteful.

I continue to feel nothing but sympathy for RH's wife and children. I'm glad the layer did the presser. MOO

 

[bestill]

That is just awful. Perhaps part of her divorce settlement, assuming he has any money, could be to cover her medical insurance for a certain amount of time.

I bet all, if he has any, money will go to his defense. What a sad situation they are living in.

 

[SonsOfCain]

Did I read that right, AE has cancer? How awful. Especially awful for the adult children. I feel so bad for this family.

Oh god that makes it even more awful. That poor woman and her poor kids. They’ve been dealing with that and now they have to grapple with everything going on with their dad.

How much does insurance usually cover for cancer treatments? I can imagine even with coverage it probably still costs a pretty penny.

Also I wonder if his wife having cancer could have been a stressor for him that set off him starting up again? Just to be clear I am 100% NOT blaming her. This was NOT at all her fault. I am just wondering aloud because stressors have a hand in serial killers amping up to commit their crimes.

 

[Lore Listener]

So, just a side note on the presser, apparently the creepy doll was a collectible item owned by AE. Thought that was interesting given all the speculation on here. AE's lawyer also said the room in the basement was neither soundproof nor a vault, but merely a room for storing guns. However, than one seems somewhat more up for interpretation.

It makes me so angry that an older adult with cancer and an adult child with disabilities can lose their healthcare coverage in this country merely for divorcing a probably serial killer! We have to do better.

 

[NyxNY]

So, just a side note on the presser, apparently the creepy doll was a collectible item owned by AE. Thought that was interesting given all the speculation on here. AE's lawyer also said the room in the basement was neither soundproof nor a vault, but merely a room for storing guns. However, than one seems somewhat more up for interpretation.

It makes me so angry that an older adult with cancer and an adult child with disabilities can lose their healthcare coverage in this country merely for divorcing a probably serial killer! We have to do better.

He said it had a vault door, but the rest of the room was just an ordinary part of the basement with regular walls and beams on the ceiling supporting floor above where he stored his guns What we would call an "unfinished" basement.

 

[kittythehare]

Oh god that makes it even more awful. That poor woman and her poor kids. They’ve been dealing with that and now they have to grapple with everything going on with their dad.

How much does insurance usually cover for cancer treatments? I can imagine even with coverage it probably still costs a pretty penny.

Also I wonder if his wife having cancer could have been a stressor for him that set off him starting up again? Just to be clear I am 100% NOT blaming her. This was NOT at all her fault. I am just wondering aloud because stressors have a hand in serial killers amping up to commit their crimes.

Cancer is not a known factor in the motivation of serial killers afaik.

 

[Just K]

All three family members, as well as his brother actually will be a wealth of information when it comes to his behaviors, his attitudes and any conversations he had with them about the murders and murderers. They also know his lifestyle and schedules.They know how much time he spent alone, at work, what cars he owned and for how long. They’d know where he said he was going and why he said he was going. So, contrary to what Asa’s lawyer says, they do have a lot of relevant information to contribute to this case.

 

[Ruminations]

I just finished the presser. One journalist in the crowd tried to get the attorneys to answer how the family lawyered up with them so fast-and if the clients called them or vice-versa. Anyone know which news outlet that was?

TIA

 

[ArianeEmory]

How much does insurance usually cover for cancer treatments? I can imagine even with coverage it probably still costs a pretty penny.

I’m in the US and currently fighting a very treatable cancer. I’m fortunate to have insurance with a reasonably low deductible, and I had the means to pay it. But looking through the billing going back and forth between the hospital and my insurance, something like $40k has been billed for just one outpatient surgery. (I hesitate to call it “minor”, but it was minor compared to a mastectomy, for example.)

 

[thefragile7393]

I just finished the presser. One journalist in the crowd tried to get the attorneys to answer how the family lawyered up with them so fast-and if the clients called them or vice-versa. Anyone know which news outlet that was?

TIA

Not sure why the journalist would act like this but I'm not surprised. They aren't a part of this investigation, so who cares why and how they lawyered up

 

[Ruminations]

So, just a side note on the presser, apparently the creepy doll was a collectible item owned by AE. Thought that was interesting given all the speculation on here. AE's lawyer also said the room in the basement was neither soundproof nor a vault, but merely a room for storing guns. However, than one seems somewhat more up for interpretation.

It makes me so angry that an older adult with cancer and an adult child with disabilities can lose their healthcare coverage in this country merely for divorcing a probably serial killer! We have to do better.

Me, too. But at least it is no longer possible for the insurance company to d/c the insurance if she can take over the premiums. And they can no longer hike the rates because she has cancer.

Medicaid in NYS might be an option IF AE is under 65 and not disabled per SSA.

If she is not aged or disabled, her eligibility is determined by income only. (Not things like bank accounts, home value.) and if she is eligible for Medicaid, the program will probably pick up her cobra premiums.

Medicaid does this when it is cost effective, and paying premiums is likely to be cost effective in the case of a person already in treatment for 2 cancers.

The same (MA paying COBRA if cost-effective) would apply if she is aged or disabled, but it is harder to be eligible. For one thing, bank accounts now count.

MOO.

 

[Ruminations]

Not sure why the journalist would act like this but I'm not surprised. They aren't a part of this investigation, so who cares why and how they lawyered up

I'm very interested in the answer to this question. I don't have any problem with people who are part of the investigation having lawyers, and I don't have a problem with their having representation.

But I would like to know the answer to that question. It is a curious choice of lawyers.

MOO

 

[Handt]

how painful it is that such stories are repeated, and people do not learn anything, do not live for their own pleasure, but cause even more pain to others

 

[Lyanna]

I’m in the US and currently fighting a very treatable cancer. I’m fortunate to have insurance with a reasonably low deductible, and I had the means to pay it. But looking through the billing going back and forth between the hospital and my insurance, something like $40k has been billed for just one outpatient surgery. (I hesitate to call it “minor”, but it was minor compared to a mastectomy, for example.)

♥

 

[Teche]

Have we ever had a family of an accused hire an attorney and go after LE for destruction of their personal property during searches? JMO - seems this may be where it's headed.

This might sound cold, but LE will and should toss personal items in a home or business when searching for evidence. As long as it’s a lawful search, oh well it’s not LE’s job to clean up the mess.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I'm confused as to why AE has hired one attorney and her children have jointly hired another. I'm sure there is some legal reasoning behind this, but I can't for the life of me think of what that might be.

Maybe her attorney is a divorce attorney ? I dunno.

 

[FromGermany1]

All three family members, as well as his brother actually will be a wealth of information when it comes to his behaviors, his attitudes and any conversations he had with them about the murders and murderers. They also know his lifestyle and schedules.They know how much time he spent alone, at work, what cars he owned and for how long. They’d know where he said he was going and why he said he was going. So, contrary to what Asa’s lawyer says, they do have a lot of relevant information to contribute to this case.

The lawyers talked too fast for me, but I understood, the 3 family members have lawyers to protect them and their rights, which they have during investigation. Is that nearly right??
Then the lawyers will protest the family members' interviews by LE constantly, I assume?

 

[Warwick7]

The lawyers talked too fast for me, but I understood, the 3 family members have lawyers to protect them and their rights, which they have during investigation. Is that nearly right??
Then the lawyers will protest the family members' interviews by LE constantly, I assume?

I'm going watch it on YouTube later. We can turn down the speed on there.

 

[Teche]

I do wonder what the motive for the press conference is. At first I thought that maybe the attorney for AE thinks that by doing a press conference then maybe the media will back off hounding the family if they are given info at a press conference.

But then when I read that the attorneys would be showing photos of the inside of the house, I, too, wonder if they are going to blame LE for destruction of the house. If they go that route, then the family could very well lose public sympathy. I think that would be a bad strategy. I guess we'll know soon what the motivation for the press conferrence is.

edit for typos

Maybe the attorney will show before and after photos. It's been mentioned in the media that the house was cluttered prior to the search.